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    Why can't we be like most every other team in the ncaa and play players by skill, talent, basketball i.q. or other b-ball essentials? We decide to play players by their performance in practice. hooray matt salley had a great week in practice.. that means he will be a beast in the game... 35 minutes for you! same thing i guess in the opposite direction for collins/rashad. face it coach salley sucks and you couldn't slide a 90 page notebook under sam singh when he jumped- just suggesting a change when something isn't working (we weren't awful when egolf, collins etc. got more p.t)
    WE WANT HEEMSKERK!

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    Amen; sorry Capt. Brave saw such a bad game. At least the first half was ok.... another loss for the team to build off of....
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    • #3
      I would like to see RA in the game at the same time MS is in....and sub them with DC and SS......TW is clearly outmatched down low.....let's get real here....he is only 6'4 and 190 lbs? Every player tonight backed him down with ease....it is not his fault...he is just too small to play the 4 IMO.....lets get big and give some match up problems for the other team once!

      Question......are the coach's getting this team ready to compete.....are we using our best player's on the court?

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      • #4
        Sam S should never see the floor he is way to slow to play defense and rebound.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Big Mike View Post
          .....are we using our best player's on the court?

          What is NO!



          Correct!!!


          I just want to know what exectally Collins and Egolf and Austin did to deserved to get a combined 1 min tonight?
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          • #6
            Has anyone ever asked JL why he insists on a 4 guard line up with either a center who is a small forward (Salley) or a center who can not jump (Singh) when we are getting out rebounded nightly by double digits.

            This whole thing is so frustrating.

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            • #7
              Guys...I know we are frustrated but shouldn't we refrain from the "______ sucks" comments. These guys haven't quit. Sure maybe they don't have the talent we want but they are giving us what we have. Besides this isn't about ONE player.....this is an entire team falling apart.

              With that said....its tough to watch. Can ONE player really make THIS much difference?

              I saw this team look pretty good..in fact REAL good against a team that is playing very well right now Vandy.

              Most of us saw a pretty good team battle another VERY good team in MSU.

              This isn't fun but lets hope the team remains positive and keeps working hard.

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              • #8
                To start you are partly correct dogs, i think. I have to bring Les's rotation choice is a bit, um i dont know the word...dumb! In the second half he played six guys. Collins and Egolf both capable rebounders didnt even touch the floor. Yet Salley, i guess a "very hard worker in practice" but he doesnt do anything on the floor. why is he getting 35 mins a game? He had one basket, two free throws, and 5 fouls in 35 mins. Thats rock solid production. Now i think if someone isnt having a good game you dont play them almost the whole game. And BuBraves55 is right i dont think SS can jump over a 90 page notebook.
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                • #9
                  We heard how good Salley was at the beginning of this year, I was doubtful. I saw him in the Red/White and agreed. Once we started playing against new competition, he disappeared.
                  I'm afraid that Salley would become good by the 3rd game in a best of 5 series, but when he faces a new team every game...

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                  • #10
                    couldnt have said it better myself. I mean were in a hole now, why not try something new?
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                    • #11
                      If you continue to play the same players we did in the last 5 games you get the same results.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by CrouchsCrusaders View Post
                        couldnt have said it better myself. I mean were in a hole now, why not try something new?
                        I agree. We have lost 5 in a row. How much worse can it get? I mean we are probably gonna make it 6 in a row on Tuesday when we go play an SIU team that isn't having a good season either. Something has to change because this was just very difficult to watch. I have tried to stay positive during the stretch, but there is a difference between staying positive and trying to find the silver lining and just being naive thinking that this team can actually compete.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dogsrus View Post
                          With that said....its tough to watch. Can ONE player really make THIS much difference?
                          Dogs... I cut your quote short to make my point.. Sorry in advance if this doesnt express your opinon.

                          IMO,the ONE player we miss is Will Franklin. Among other things, this team lacks the one player who can step up to score points in the clutch.
                          With Ruff out, SamM probably comes close but this is a lot to ask of a freshman.

                          other points mentioned on this thread...

                          Sam Singh- Because of injuries, he is a role player ment to spell our bigs...
                          He has worked hard this year and is playing more minutes than everyone probably expected.. SS deserves better than what is being said of him in this thread..imo

                          Will Egolf--has had a few postive moments but has had an equal amount of times when he has been lost on the floor.. When he has been in recent games, his defense has been decent, he has gotten the occasional rebound, and doesnt really score... The only way I give Will significant minutes is if we give up on the season and get him the experience now that he will need for the future... (we are getting to this point fairly quickly)

                          Collins-he is soft...he makes mistakes... we lost games while he was playing and we are loosing with DC on the bench. I think now more than ever we start DC with Salley.

                          Matt Salley--- guys like it or not he is the only big that we have... He is a 4 playing the 5..has his flaws but the effort is there... I think he starts but with a bigger overall lineup..

                          Rashad Austin- well you know what I think here... But, I dont think that we start RA... I do think that we have RA as the first big off the bench to see what he can and can not do in a game situation. I think RA has the chance to be our best 4 player but need to see more to be certain.

                          Finally: The four guard offense-- shoot it....kill it...bury it..... Lets simplify things and put in a bigger lineup.
                          Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                          ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Beninator View Post
                            Sam Singh- Because of injuries, he is a role player ment to spell our bigs...
                            Bigs? What bigs? Who are these bigs you speak of?
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by CrouchsCrusaders View Post
                              Bigs? What bigs? Who are these bigs you speak of?
                              Well as you know we dont have an inside game... I have had a few cold ones tonight so I probably should have said that SS's role on this team at the begining of the year would have been to sub for MS and or DC...
                              you know the soft 7 footer currently on the bench
                              Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                              ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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