New Bradley recruit

[Da Coach]

There are several upcoming visits by recruits.
There is a visiting prep recruit this weekend- eh?

But another possible upcoming visit may be this new name-
Marvin Kilgore- 6'3" combo guard from Panola Junior College, Panola, Texas. He originally played high school in Philadelphia and played his freshman season at Eastern Carolina University.
Kilgore averaged 14.2 points and 6.3 assists per game at Panola. He has great leaping ability and is a very good passer and shooter.

Here are some links with info about Marvin Kilgore-

http://jucojunction.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=41175

Ranked #86 overall among JuCo players-

http://jucojunction.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=1199

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:cPwgrhCPBe4J:ecupirates.com/index.php%3Furl_channel_id%3D0%26url_subchannel_id%3D%26url_publish_channel_id%3D6734%26well_id%3D2+%22Marvin+Kilgore%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&ie=UTF-8

http://www.sportsshooter.com/port_popup.html?mem_id=3611&i_id=230673

http://www.panola.edu/sports/basketball/index.html

[Da Coach]

And I have also heard that some recruits that have been in touch with Bradley for a long time are still in play, and could be possibilities for the last couple scholarships--such as Roman Gentry, TJ Marion, and other Chicago area kids.

[Da Coach]

Here is an update on Roman Gentry

http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2006/04/06/sports/sports/664ab7c916639b978625714800088e6c.txt

[BradleyBrave]

Here's some pictures of Roman Gentry, a potential spring signee -



Gentry is #20 in the picture in this article -

http://www.dmregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050413/SPORTS0802/504130331/1003/SPORTS

[tornado]

Re: New Bradley recruit

There are several upcoming visits by recruits.
There is a visiting prep recruit this weekend- eh?

But another possible upcoming visit may be this new name-
Marvin Kilgore- 6'3" combo guard from Panola Junior College, Panola, Texas. He originally played high school in Philadelphia and played his freshman season at Eastern Carolina University.
Kilgore averaged 14.2 points and 6.3 assists per game at Panola. He has great leaping ability and is a very good passer and shooter.

Here are some links with info about Marvin Kilgore-

http://jucojunction.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=41175

Ranked #86 overall among JuCo players-

http://jucojunction.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=1199

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:cPwgrhCPBe4J:ecupirates.com/index.php%3Furl_channel_id%3D0%26url_subchannel_id%3D%26url_publish_channel_id%3D6734%26well_id%3D2+%22Marvin+Kilgore%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&ie=UTF-8

http://www.sportsshooter.com/port_popup.html?mem_id=3611&i_id=230673

http://www.panola.edu/sports/basketball/index.html

One of the top recruiting services now reports that Marvin Kilgore is being tracked and offered by Cincinnati.
After the Marcus Sikes thing, I have to wonder if Cincy is just looking at who Jim Les is after and going after them.

[Braveman]

Re: New Bradley recruit

There are several upcoming visits by recruits.
There is a visiting prep recruit this weekend- eh?

But another possible upcoming visit may be this new name-
Marvin Kilgore- 6'3" combo guard from Panola Junior College, Panola, Texas. He originally played high school in Philadelphia and played his freshman season at Eastern Carolina University.
Kilgore averaged 14.2 points and 6.3 assists per game at Panola. He has great leaping ability and is a very good passer and shooter.

Here are some links with info about Marvin Kilgore-

http://jucojunction.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=41175

Ranked #86 overall among JuCo players-

http://jucojunction.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=1199

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:cPwgrhCPBe4J:ecupirates.com/index.php%3Furl_channel_id%3D0%26url_subchannel_id%3D%26url_publish_channel_id%3D6734%26well_id%3D2+%22Marvin+Kilgore%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&ie=UTF-8

http://www.sportsshooter.com/port_popup.html?mem_id=3611&i_id=230673

http://www.panola.edu/sports/basketball/index.html

One of the top recruiting services now reports that Marvin Kilgore is being tracked and offered by Cincinnati.
After the Marcus Sikes thing, I have to wonder if Cincy is just looking at who Jim Les is after and going after them.

Why not? It certainly has worked for ISU!

[AV23]

Re: New Bradley recruit

There are several upcoming visits by recruits.
There is a visiting prep recruit this weekend- eh?

But another possible upcoming visit may be this new name-
Marvin Kilgore- 6'3" combo guard from Panola Junior College, Panola, Texas. He originally played high school in Philadelphia and played his freshman season at Eastern Carolina University.
Kilgore averaged 14.2 points and 6.3 assists per game at Panola. He has great leaping ability and is a very good passer and shooter.

Here are some links with info about Marvin Kilgore-

http://jucojunction.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=41175

Ranked #86 overall among JuCo players-

http://jucojunction.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=1199

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:cPwgrhCPBe4J:ecupirates.com/index.php%3Furl_channel_id%3D0%26url_subchannel_id%3D%26url_publish_channel_id%3D6734%26well_id%3D2+%22Marvin+Kilgore%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&ie=UTF-8

http://www.sportsshooter.com/port_popup.html?mem_id=3611&i_id=230673

http://www.panola.edu/sports/basketball/index.html

One of the top recruiting services now reports that Marvin Kilgore is being tracked and offered by Cincinnati.
After the Marcus Sikes thing, I have to wonder if Cincy is just looking at who Jim Les is after and going after them.

Why not? It certainly has worked for ISU!

Sorry, but I don't think Cincy is sitting back watching who Coach Les is going after. I'm not trying to take anything away from BU, but these young men are being recruited by many schools.

[tornado]

I beg to differ.........I guess you can believe what you want, but I ask this...
Just how does a mid-major coach know who to go after?
Of course there are thousands of recruits out there, and many are going to go way higher than the midmajor level, and some aren't worth pursuing as they will fall way below the midmajor level of play.

What I am saying is that even a good coach has to have some references to know what players to go look at and which ones to leave alone, because you can't recruit everyone, and yuo better not choose who to pursue by spinning a dial, you have to go on some accurate lead information.

Some coaches pay for advice from professionals, some go to the major events and exposures, some get on the phone and make calls to give them some leads.

But....(here is the clincher in this argument)....here is what I have heard from a very reliable couple of sources, and the facts totally bear out what I have heard.

That some midmajor coaches DO LOOK AT WHO SOME OF THEIR CONFERENCE COMPETITORS ARE PURSUING, and then use that information to get going on the very same recruits.
And why do they do it...because it works. If a kid is interested in BU, then for a number of reasons, he'd also likely be interested in SIU, ISU, UNI, etc.... have we not seen time and time again that kids like Carlton Fay are looking at BU, UNI, SIU, and ISU???

So my final statement is that it is fairly well known in certain "circles" that Jim Les is a good recruiter, and has some good contacts to find decent, underrated kids (that very few others here in our area know about), and at least one MVC coach has been repeatedly known to follow JL on the recruiting trail and make a habit of checking specifically on players Les had started recruiting.
In other words, YES there are coaches who do some of their recruiting by trying to "steal" recruits from other coaches who actually learned of them and "found" them first.
(I can even give more data and evidence, but I am not going to name names publicly.)

[MacabreMob]

I beg to differ.........I guess you can believe what you want, but I ask this...
Just how does a mid-major coach know who to go after?
Of course there are thousands of recruits out there, and many are going to go way higher than the midmajor level, and some aren't worth pursuing as they will fall way below the midmajor level of play.

What I am saying is that even a good coach has to have some references to know what players to go look at and which ones to leave alone, because you can't recruit everyone, and yuo better not choose who to pursue by spinning a dial, you have to go on some accurate lead information.

Some coaches pay for advice from professionals, some go to the major events and exposures, some get on the phone and make calls to give them some leads.

But....(here is the clincher in this argument)....here is what I have heard from a very reliable couple of sources, and the facts totally bear out what I have heard.

That some midmajor coaches DO LOOK AT WHO SOME OF THEIR CONFERENCE COMPETITORS ARE PURSUING, and then use that information to get going on the very same recruits.
And why do they do it...because it works. If a kid is interested in BU, then for a number of reasons, he'd also likely be interested in SIU, ISU, UNI, etc.... have we not seen time and time again that kids like Carlton Fay are looking at BU, UNI, SIU, and ISU???

So my final statement is that it is fairly well known in certain "circles" that Jim Les is a good recruiter, and has some good contacts to find decent, underrated kids (that very few others here in our area know about), and at least one MVC coach has been repeatedly known to follow JL on the recruiting trail and make a habit of checking specifically on players Les had started recruiting.
In other words, YES there are coaches who do some of their recruiting by trying to "steal" recruits from other coaches who actually learned of them and "found" them first.
(I can even give more data and evidence, but I am not going to name names publicly.)

T - I agree with you and understand the logic and everything.

My question is: Do you think/know Bradley has been an 'attempted/successful stealer" in the past/present?

I know Les is good. I am not dissin' his abilities to recognize talent.

Just following the logic, Les may have targeted similar profiled-schools for recruits. And then with his expectations/desire/demand, he has targeted higher profile players that are recruited by higher profiled teams. And now others are following his suit... if Bradley and Les can land a recruit or 2 like that, why can't we?

[AV23]

I beg to differ.........I guess you can believe what you want, but I ask this...
Just how does a mid-major coach know who to go after?
Of course there are thousands of recruits out there, and many are going to go way higher than the midmajor level, and some aren't worth pursuing as they will fall way below the midmajor level of play.

What I am saying is that even a good coach has to have some references to know what players to go look at and which ones to leave alone, because you can't recruit everyone, and yuo better not choose who to pursue by spinning a dial, you have to go on some accurate lead information.

Some coaches pay for advice from professionals, some go to the major events and exposures, some get on the phone and make calls to give them some leads.

But....(here is the clincher in this argument)....here is what I have heard from a very reliable couple of sources, and the facts totally bear out what I have heard.

That some midmajor coaches DO LOOK AT WHO SOME OF THEIR CONFERENCE COMPETITORS ARE PURSUING, and then use that information to get going on the very same recruits.
And why do they do it...because it works. If a kid is interested in BU, then for a number of reasons, he'd also likely be interested in SIU, ISU, UNI, etc.... have we not seen time and time again that kids like Carlton Fay are looking at BU, UNI, SIU, and ISU???

So my final statement is that it is fairly well known in certain "circles" that Jim Les is a good recruiter, and has some good contacts to find decent, underrated kids (that very few others here in our area know about), and at least one MVC coach has been repeatedly known to follow JL on the recruiting trail and make a habit of checking specifically on players Les had started recruiting.
In other words, YES there are coaches who do some of their recruiting by trying to "steal" recruits from other coaches who actually learned of them and "found" them first.
(I can even give more data and evidence, but I am not going to name names publicly.)

I agree 100% with the your quote, "That some midmajor coaches DO LOOK AT WHO SOME OF THEIR CONFERENCE COMPETITORS ARE PURSUING, and then use that information to get going on the very same recruits.
And why do they do it...because it works. If a kid is interested in BU, then for a number of reasons, he'd also likely be interested in SIU, ISU, UNI, etc.... have we not seen time and time again that kids like Carlton Fay are looking at BU, UNI, SIU, and ISU???" But I was not talking about the MVC, I was more talking about the bigger D1 basketball programs