Dyricus Simms-Edwards

[Murph]

According to the story....the transfer was completely and purely for basketball reasons,
and it says he even contemplated other schools and settled on Washington as he knew they'd be the best team in the area.

Moshington....

So if he were to go to say a Bradley and he didn't like the way things were going do you think he'd run away from that situation too, like he did at Central?

[it's boogie time]

It's good to hear that there is some more D1 talent in the area. I think if a kid has a good game in 5th grade in Washington, people at BU will hear about it.

When did Dyricus Simms-Edwards dad become a former boys assistant at Central?

[tornado]

Murph-- that's kinda like asking if you dated a lot of girls before you were married, then will you continue to do the same afterwards?

Kids do sometimes transfer several times in HS, but once they commit at the D-I level, then it sure isn't as likely they'd walk out on their scholarship, since there are a whole lot more consequences.
But I do agree the kids who move around a lot like Dodie Dunson (5 schools in the past 2 years), his brother Brandon (4 schools in the past 2 years), and a few others do seem to be bigger risks when they are being recruited.


Dyricus' dad, Meechie (Demetrius Edwards), was an assistant under Chuck Buescher on both State Title teams, and played for Chuck at Central back in the mid-90's.
I believe he has been an assistant since shortly after his highschool days....which would place him as a boys assistant from about '96 through 2006, and he's now the girls' head coach.

[Moshington]

Moshington....

So if he were to go to say a Bradley and he didn't like the way things were going do you think he'd run away from that situation too, like he did at Central?

Similar to Danny Granger ran from BU only to turn into the #17 overall pick in the NBA draft? Perhaps leaving a school is meant to maximize potential, who are you to judge?

And obviously someone hasn't seen Matt Roth play, stepping a foot back from the 3point line only makes him more accurate. I will not blame Matt's poor shooting on the Defense, he is getting PLENTY of open looks but had an off shooting night at U-High shooting 1-9 from college range, and had another off shooting night at Canton where he only made 4. I'm pretty sure he's passed Jeremy Crouch's 3point numbers at this point in his career all while shooting 49% for his career from 3point land... weather that be high school, college, or NBA 3point land he can hit them all.

Oh, and when did a 39% from 3point land turn into some atrocious number?

[tornado]

It's not atrocious, but it isn't that great.
Every high school in America has a kid or two who shoot 40%


There's reasons that even though kids can shoot close to 50% in high school and even grade school, still at the D-I level NOBODY shots over 50%.
It has to do with defenses, the pace they play at, and the conditioning required to play at the D-I level that BUILDS strength, muscle mass, and stamina, but it doesn't benefit shooting accuracy and even may inhibit it.
Need I point anywhere further than to ISU transfer, Sead Odzic, the sharpshooter who averaged 46% as a junior and 50% as a senior from 3-pt range in high school, but who went to USC and couldn't even hit 30%


And Granger, Like Larry Bird are the extreme exceptions.
D-I transfers and HS transfers aren't really in the same context, but....
The vast, vast majority of D-I transfers are either mostly average or fizzle out and are never heard from again.
The list is endless but include Xanthus Houston, Michael Rembert, and even Saihou Jassey, who is dropping in playing time like a piece of lead, and barely plays at all now.

[SFP]

Similar to Danny Granger ran from BU only to turn into the #17 overall pick in the NBA draft? Perhaps leaving a school is meant to maximize potential, who are you to judge?

And obviously someone hasn't seen Matt Roth play, stepping a foot back from the 3point line only makes him more accurate. I will not blame Matt's poor shooting on the Defense, he is getting PLENTY of open looks but had an off shooting night at U-High shooting 1-9 from college range, and had another off shooting night at Canton where he only made 4. I'm pretty sure he's passed Jeremy Crouch's 3point numbers at this point in his career all while shooting 49% for his career from 3point land... weather that be high school, college, or NBA 3point land he can hit them all.

Oh, and when did a 39% from 3point land turn into some atrocious number?

Stepping back a foot does not make anyone more accurate. That is why they are moving it back beause it is too easy. The effect of moving it back will not be in the 1st two quarters it will be towards the end of the game when your legs are not as strong. Unless MR is the next coming of Larry Bird that just is not going to apply to him. Remeber LB left IU so that would not be bad thing

[Moshington]

All while rewriting all the state record books for 3point shooting? With the range of Matt? Sorry

[Moshington]

Haha, I won't compare him to Larry Bird but he DOES shoot better from a foot behind the 3point line.

[tornado]

Hey, Mosh--- I am not anti-MR, and in fact one of his BIG fans!!
I wanted desperately to see Matt come to BU and am surprised (as many are) at his decision to go to IU with all that's going on there and the spectre of sanctions and bans.

[Big JT]

It's hard to win a national championship when you're banned from postseason play.

I must have missed it, did the NCAA issue a ban for IU or is that just you?

[Moshington]

I can't agree more, would have loved him in the Bradley uniform next year. But you can't blame a kid who wants to play at te highest level possible to prove to himself that he can do it and to all those who have doubted him. He gets a chance to play with some of the nations best and against some of the nations best. It is a great opportunity, plus it is a GREAT school where he will get a GREAT education. I'm not saying he wouldn't get that at BU. I just can't criticize a kid, he has his reasons, his family and him made a decision. And IU is extremely excited to have him.

[Big JT]

Matt Roth is 26-66 (39%) from 3-point range so far this season.

He has scored a total of 143 points in his team's 6 games (6-0) for an average of almost 24ppg.

Now-- remember, the 3-point line WILL be moving further back in 2008, and I am not so sure that a 6-3 kid who hits only 39% against high school defenses, is going to be able to step back another foot or so and still be effective against Big Ten-caliber defenses.

I know some will defend Matt by saying that the defenses "key" on him. But you have to realize, that every good player in America and the best player on every high school team also has the defenses "keying" on him, so how is this any different?
The article today about Edwards points out that either Matt Roth is benefitting from having another talented scorer to draw away defenses, or possibly Simms-Edwards is scoring so much mainly because the defenses are paying so much attention to Roth.

Why are you making this about Matt Roth? Nothing to add about Dyricus or just hating on Matt?

[Big JT]

It's not atrocious, but it isn't that great.
Every high school in America has a kid or two who shoot 40%


There's reasons that even though kids can shoot close to 50% in high school and even grade school, still at the D-I level NOBODY shots over 50%.
It has to do with defenses, the pace they play at, and the conditioning required to play at the D-I level that BUILDS strength, muscle mass, and stamina, but it doesn't benefit shooting accuracy and even may inhibit it.
Need I point anywhere further than to ISU transfer, Sead Odzic, the sharpshooter who averaged 46% as a junior and 50% as a senior from 3-pt range in high school, but who went to USC and couldn't even hit 30%


And Granger, Like Larry Bird are the extreme exceptions.
D-I transfers and HS transfers aren't really in the same context, but....
The vast, vast majority of D-I transfers are either mostly average or fizzle out and are never heard from again.
The list is endless but include Xanthus Houston, Michael Rembert, and even Saihou Jassey, who is dropping in playing time like a piece of lead, and barely plays at all now.

No complaints from Brave Land when Somerville came home! Back to Roth, you are right, many HS players shoot 35 - 40% and even 50%. If you shoot 3 and make 2, your percentage will be skewed high. To shoot in the upper 40's with the number of attempts Matt has is impressive. Isn't that why Bradley went so hard after Crouch out of HS because of his 3-point shooting?

[bu fan 9]

No it was JC's all around game is why Bradley went after JC.

[Moshington]

ok, the name of the thread is Dyricus Simms-Edwards and I started it to see what you guys thought about him playing at BU. Sorry if I started conflict or took this thread off topic but I would really like waht you guys have to say about him. But please don't just shoot him down for transferring, that is a personal decision and it really seems to be working out for him who are we to judge?