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  • #31
    MM--last year we went round and round about playing conference teams playing each other.

    And on UCSB, they are in the Big West Conference. Yes Pacific is a nice program from that league as well. But the league itself is not good at all and has two relatively new programs to DI in Riverside and Davis.

    I'm partial to Niagara because their assistant coach Dobrich is from Illinois, and think they offer a consistent quality opponent.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by squirrel View Post
      MM--.............

      I'm partial to Niagara because their assistant coach Dobrich is from Illinois, and think they offer a consistent quality opponent.
      That a boy squirrel. I was 4 years behind coach Dobrich in DePue HS. He is a great guy and seems to be doing a heck of a job at Niagara. Talk about the glory days of highschool bball for little old DePue. I was in junior high watching those guys play! Seems so long ago now.

      -MML

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      • #33
        Originally posted by squirrel View Post
        I'm partial to Niagara because their assistant coach Dobrich is from Illinois, and think they offer a consistent quality opponent.
        The Niagra pairing doesnt really thrill me to be bluntly honest. Duquesne(loss), St Johns(12/15), and Siena(2/29) are the best teams on their schedule. UC-SB already has a home win against UNLV, big loss to Stanford(road), and a December 22 matchup with UNC.
        Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

        ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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        • #34
          Stanford is their typical fraud self, with an 8-1 record boasting their biggest win over UCSB followed closely by Colorado State who will likely be back below .500 by the end of next week.

          Nothing against UCSB, but I don't think they will be anywhere near as attractive opponent by the end of January.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by squirrel View Post
            MM--last year we went round and round about playing conference teams playing each other.
            You said last year:

            12-22-2006, 09:40 AM
            squirrel


            I'd gladly take a third game against a higher-rated than us Valley team.

            I'd also take a rematch with Loyola.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by MacabreMob View Post
              You said last year:

              12-22-2006, 09:40 AM
              squirrel


              I'd gladly take a third game against a higher-rated than us Valley team.

              I'd also take a rematch with Loyola.
              I don't remember going on and on about that (Loyola). Wouldn't put it past me, just don't remember it. But if I did, it was because the home-and-home in season idea was growing on me, and that would've guaranteed a two year home-and-home series with them.

              Just makes me wonder, if this event is designed to give teams the best game possible, why it fails to do it.

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              • #37
                No matter what, some teams will get setup with the matchup they think is best and some won't; there's so many teams involved that I don't think that they could nail it 100% as far as ideal matchups. Like the saying goes, no matter what you do, you can never please everybody.

                Talking with AD Kavanaugh and another fella from the MVC at the gathering before the VCU game last year, it was a real eye opener when we got to talking about just how much jockeying and lobbying goes on every year just before the BB. Every team and league, especially a bubble team, is trying to get the best high profile matchup for themselves, as well as maximum exposure. You can bet that some schools and leagues are better than others when it comes to that, just the nature of the beast.
                A real fan celebrates the successes, but also acknowledges the failures of his team.

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                • #38
                  I found the corrections to the list of Home and Road teams and edited the first post.

                  Here were the changes:
                  1) Add Hofstra to the Road list
                  2) Add Idaho to the Road list
                  3) Switch Boston U (from Home) to the Road list
                  4) Switch High Point (from Home) to the Road list
                  5) Switch CS Northridge (from Road) to the Home list

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                  • #39
                    Well.... just a few days away from Jerry Palm's first Bracket Projection, thought I would resurrect this thread and show RPI's (thru games played on 1-2).

                    HOME
                    4 St Mary's
                    11 Butler
                    26 Winthrop
                    34 Valparaiso
                    35 Ohio
                    45 Illinois State
                    55 So Illinois
                    84 Holy Cross
                    85 Cleveland State
                    86 Bradley
                    87 James Madison
                    88 East Tn St
                    92 Oral Roberts
                    93 Austin Peay
                    94 CS Northridge
                    98 Missouri State
                    105 Wisc-GB
                    106 Toledo
                    108 No Iowa
                    117 Akron
                    124 Boise State
                    132 Drexel
                    133 Fresno State
                    136 Utah State
                    138 No Arizona
                    147 CS Fullerton
                    149 Pacific
                    155 Old Dominion
                    162 New Mexico State
                    165 Buffalo
                    170 UNC-Wilmington
                    186 Appalachian State
                    191 Loyola (Maryland)
                    195 UC Irvine
                    211 Iona
                    213 Elon
                    232 No Illinois
                    240 Eastern Kentucky
                    241 Detroit
                    247 Eastern Michigan
                    253 Towson
                    262 Manhattan
                    273 UC Riverside
                    276 Murray State
                    290 William & Mary
                    300 St Peter's
                    315 Canisius
                    333 Louisiana Tech
                    340 Jacksonville State
                    341 Eastern Illinois


                    ROAD
                    18 Drake
                    28 Miami (Ohio)
                    33 Kent State
                    37 Nevada
                    39 Wright State
                    43 George Mason
                    49 Niagara
                    51 UC Santa Barbara
                    63 Siena
                    70 Georgia Southern
                    75 Creighton
                    79 Marist
                    80 VCU
                    111 Indiana State
                    114 Illinois-Chicago
                    125 Central Michigan
                    141 Portland State
                    144 Rider
                    148 Northeastern
                    152 Wichita State
                    157 Davidson
                    168 Wisconsin-Milwaukee
                    174 Western Michigan
                    182 Tennessee State
                    187 Youngstown State
                    196 Cal Poly
                    197 SE Missouri State
                    202 San Jose State
                    205 Bucknell
                    210 Albany
                    226 Delaware
                    242 Vermont
                    245 High Point
                    251 Tennessee-Martin
                    252 Evansville
                    255 Boston University
                    260 Fairfield
                    263 UC Davis
                    269 Ball State
                    275 Bowling Green
                    279 Samford
                    289 Morehead State
                    291 Hofstra
                    294 Georgia State
                    310 Loyola (Illinois)
                    311 Long Beach State
                    319 Binghamton
                    320 Hawaii
                    323 Tennessee Tech
                    330 Idaho

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                    • #40
                      Well, George Mason looks like a long shot unless we start winning some games. Amazingly, VCU looks like they could be heading to Carver for the 2nd time this year. Is there a rule against playing the same team w years in a row?
                      Onward and Upward!

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
                        Well, George Mason looks like a long shot unless we start winning some games. Amazingly, VCU looks like they could be heading to Carver for the 2nd time this year. Is there a rule against playing the same team w years in a row?
                        Surely you jest BradleyBrave.

                        Yes - there is a rule that does not allow playing a team already played earlier in the year and also against conference opponents.

                        Hey... I'm just happy E Illinois is a HOME team like us... cause after the first few matchups, they tend to match up based on locale/region regardless of RPI.

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                        • #42
                          Go ahead and blast me... but some potential matchups could be IMO:
                          C Michigan
                          Wisc-Milw
                          W Michigan
                          Ball St
                          Bowling Green

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by MacabreMob View Post
                            Go ahead and blast me... but some potential matchups could be IMO:
                            C Michigan
                            Wisc-Milw
                            W Michigan
                            Ball St
                            Bowling Green
                            Wow. You must have really given up on this season.
                            Onward and Upward!

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                            • #44
                              No BradleyBrave. I just think we are gonna drop a little in the RPI over the next 3-4 weeks... enough so that we will be out of consideration for games against "RPI boosters". We will get a "regional" opponent. And on that list of ROAD teams, those are some of the closer teams to us.

                              Go ahead... take a stab, tell me what you think. Maybe we hang in the top 75 of the RPI and get consideration for a better opponent. I hope Elgin goes to bat for us, cause when they match the opponents, Ruff could be returning very soon... and by Feb 23rd (BracketBuster Saturday 200, Ruff hopefully will be back and everyone healthy. I kinda feel sorry for the opponent if the Ruff injury isn't taken into consideration when matching us up.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by MacabreMob View Post
                                No BradleyBrave. I just think we are gonna drop a little in the RPI over the next 3-4 weeks... enough so that we will be out of consideration for games against "RPI boosters". We will get a "regional" opponent. And on that list of ROAD teams, those are some of the closer teams to us.

                                Go ahead... take a stab, tell me what you think. Maybe we hang in the top 75 of the RPI and get consideration for a better opponent. I hope Elgin goes to bat for us, cause when they match the opponents, Ruff could be returning very soon... and by Feb 23rd (BracketBuster Saturday 200, Ruff hopefully will be back and everyone healthy. I kinda feel sorry for the opponent if the Ruff injury isn't taken into consideration when matching us up.
                                I don't really know, I don't pay attention to the BracketBusters that much. We've dropped 4 straight and are still in the 80's RPI-wise. I would think that if we can win a few games in the next few weeks (which I think we can), that we can maintain or improve upon our current RPI. I could be way off, who knows.
                                Onward and Upward!

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