Jim Les Gets It

[amckillip]

then why did you?

I don't think he did, I think it was a pretty legitimate questions, he was just expressing that he wasn't doing it for that reason.

[lefty]

I don't think he did, I think it was a pretty legitimate questions, he was just expressing that he wasn't doing it for that reason.

BB is a very smart person. Why would he bring up the old coach regarding something like that 6 years later? Makes no sense to me.
If you say "not to start something" it will usually start something

[Dubl R 1]

BB is a very smart person. Why would he bring up the old coach regarding something like that 6 years later? Makes no sense to me.
If you say "not to start something" it will usually start something

So you wanna be startin somethin......... Got to be startin somethin


Too high to get over...yeah yeah Too low to get under.......yeah yeah


You're stuck in the middle

Well, that's enough of that. Sorry.

[MacabreMob]

So you wanna be startin somethin......... Got to be startin somethin


Too high to get over...yeah yeah Too low to get under.......yeah yeah


You're stuck in the middle

Well, that's enough of that. Sorry.

Yea... just Beat It, will ya.

[BradleyBrave]

BB is a very smart person. Why would he bring up the old coach regarding something like that 6 years later? Makes no sense to me.
If you say "not to start something" it will usually start something

DD actually brought 'it' up, by saying JL 'gets it'. I don't think this subject would have been brought up if the other coach 'got it'. But that's splitting hairs. I asked the question because I honestly wanted to get other people's take on this. I think Coach Mo was a good coach, but I think part of his downfall at BU was perhaps not embracing the strong tradition that is Bradley basketball. Don't get me wrong - I understand why he may not have wanted to, and why some coaches may not want to. But perhaps embracing more of the past BU successes (and the great many people involved) may have bought him more time to right the ship on the Hilltop. But, what's done is done, and I am happy where this program seems to be heading at this point. My intent was not to unprovokingly bash Coach Mo.

[BUBraves06]

DD actually brought 'it' up, by saying JL 'gets it'. I don't think this subject would have been brought up if the other coach 'got it'. But that's splitting hairs. I asked the question because I honestly wanted to get other people's take on this. I think Coach Mo was a good coach, but I think part of his downfall at BU was perhaps not embracing the strong tradition that is Bradley basketball. Don't get me wrong - I understand why he may not have wanted to, and why some coaches may not want to. But perhaps embracing more of the past BU successes (and the great many people involved) may have bought him more time to right the ship on the Hilltop. But, what's done is done, and I am happy where this program seems to be heading at this point. My intent was not to unprovokingly bash Coach Mo.

Not to disagree with your point BB, but why would any coach willingly ignore the rich history of our program, or any program for that matter? I'm just wondering ...

[BradleyBrave]

Not to disagree with your point BB, but why would any coach willingly ignore the rich history of our program, or any program for that matter? I'm just wondering ...

Yes. Some coaches want to establish their own legacy and their own tradition, and not rely on ghosts of the past. They use that to sell to their players. Remember, most coaches take over programs on the downswing, so selling the past isn't always the wisest idea. I think it varies from program to program, situation to situation. I don't think there's a right or wrong on this one.

[lefty]

Yes. Some coaches want to establish their own legacy and their own tradition, and not rely on ghosts of the past. They use that to sell to their players. Remember, most coaches take over programs on the downswing, so selling the past isn't always the wisest idea. I think it varies from program to program, situation to situation. I don't think there's a right or wrong on this one.

Jim didn't willingly ignore the rich history by any means. He loved the school. He didn't approach it the same way as JL. Some of those things were positives and some were negatives from both coaches. Two distinct personalities.
I think anyone that graduates from BU has a different feeling and passion for their school than someone from the outside. That's why I think Jerrance Howard will do well at U of I.

[it's boogie time]

Not to disagree with your point BB, but why would any coach willingly ignore the rich history of our program, or any program for that matter? I'm just wondering ...

It might be because his first order of business was to clean house. Things were a wreck when Mo showed up.

[Chico]

I can't knock Mo, even though I was glad to see a change. Afterall, he took us to the NCAA and a few NIT which is what we want as much as possible.

[Double D]

Hey Now, I didn't mean to start a scrap here. This wasn't about Mo v. Les.

Successful coaching is about building relationships, that is what "Get's It" means.

I was in school during the Albeck era and coached at Coach Mo's camps in the early days. And I have met Coach Les several times. I have no beef with Coach Mo at all. He did exactly what he had to during that era. I just think that Coach Les understands relationships and how valuable that can be. Every coach has to lead and build their program based on their beliefs and their personality.

I just think that we are continually seeing that Coach Les understands relationships and has a tremendous ability to build good will with ex-players, current players, adminsitrators, recruits, etc. A lot of people were skeptical about his inexperience and confident demeanor in the beginning. Many were I think fearful that he was all fluff and no substance.