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the last two years the dominant team in the MVC was made up of several DII guys.... plus a couple talented transfers...
and coached by a talented coach with lots of experience .... sure, it could happen again, but lots of DII guys have played in the MVC
and few have ever had dominant careers.
Both 23-24 InSU & 24-25 Drake teams were able to beat some also-rans in the post-season but still ended up falling flat & getting knocked out. I am skeptical that the next jump to the Big Ten or even (InSU's case) to the A-10 - are going to be easy routes to success at the higher level. Time will tell, but the one thing that both teams (in 2024 & 2025) prove is that a good point guard and 3-point shooting wins in the MVC.
(however, InSU's point guard had 430 pts & 188 assists in 2023-24 for the Sycamores, then transferred to Texas and had just 161 pts and 102 assists)
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Here's a kid in the portal I'd love to see Bradey get...a really good scorer and defender...
Tyon-Grant Foster, was originally a Kansas City area kid who graduated Class of 2018, only a year behind Elijah Childs - both of whom were named to the Kansas City All-area teams.
He went to juco 2 years, then played the Covid year, then had a medical redshirt year - then two more years at GCU, becoming their best scorer & player.
So even though he has been out of high school seven years, and is already 25 years old, he STILL could have two more seasons of eligibility, because the Covid year and the medical redshirt year don't count against him, and he could also get the extra juco year.
I suspect he will go higher than mid-major, but here are his 2024-25 stats- 14.8 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 2.1 asst, 1.5 blocks, 1.7 steals.
All of those numbers except the assists would have placed him high among the leaders in the MVC.
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Originally posted by yoda View PostHere's a kid in the portal I'd love to see Bradey get...a really good scorer and defender...
Tyon-Grant Foster, was originally a Kansas City area kid who graduated Class of 2018, only a year behind Elijah Childs - both of whom were named to the Kansas City All-area teams.
He went to juco 2 years, then played the Covid year, then had a medical redshirt year - then two more years at GCU, becoming their best scorer & player.
So even though he has been out of high school seven years, and is already 25 years old, he STILL could have two more seasons of eligibility, because the Covid year and the medical redshirt year don't count against him, and he could also get the extra juco year.
I suspect he will go higher than mid-major, but here are his 2024-25 stats- 14.8 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 2.1 asst, 1.5 blocks, 1.7 steals.
All of those numbers except the assists would have placed him high among the leaders in the MVC.
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Part-time starter at Loyola Chicago Jalen Quinn has entered the portal. Has 1 year left. Originally from Tuscola, IL and was recruited by lots of mid-majors out of high school.
Unsure if he'd be looking for more play time in the MVC, but he'd be an immediate impact player and an awesome veteran presence to the freshmen coming in next year.
long shot but secretly hoping this is the guy DC talked about having a visit a couple days ago.
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Originally posted by Bacci'sAftertheGym View PostPart-time starter at Loyola Chicago Jalen Quinn has entered the portal. Has 1 year left. Originally from Tuscola, IL and was recruited by lots of mid-majors out of high school.
Unsure if he'd be looking for more play time in the MVC, but he'd be an immediate impact player and an awesome veteran presence to the freshmen coming in next year.
long shot but secretly hoping this is the guy DC talked about having a visit a couple days ago.
In his 3 seasons at Loyola, he's never broken consistently into their starting lineup, and he is a poor perimeter shooter whose outside shooting hasn't improved in his 3 college seasons. And from what I have seen of his play, he's a decent passer and defender, but not a great ball-handler.
It's possible that Bradley might contact him now that he's in the portal, though I have not heard that they have.
Stats- https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...65/jalen-quinn
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Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
Bradley coaches did follow him when he was in high school in Tuscola, but never offered him before he announced his commitment to Loyola in August, 2021, before his senior year.
In his 3 seasons at Loyola, he's never broken consistently into their starting lineup, and he is a poor perimeter shooter whose outside shooting hasn't improved in his 3 college seasons. And from what I have seen of his play, he's a decent passer and defender, but not a great ball-handler.
It's possible that Bradley might contact him now that he's in the portal, though I have not heard that they have.
Stats- https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...65/jalen-quinn
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Originally posted by Bacci'sAftertheGym View PostPart-time starter at Loyola Chicago Jalen Quinn .....) With graduation losses and the portal, now of their top 9 guys who played more than 6 minutes per game, looks like they maybe returning only 2- possibly 3 of them. (Rubin 9.6ppg & Houinsou 5.8ppg, plus maybe Moore who only played 9 early season games then went out with a season ending knee injury)
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Originally posted by Steve Zalutsky View PostMaybe I'm being impatient, but I'm hearing all these schools landing players in the portal. Are we close to landing one? Is BU lagging behind? Are we just being real picky? Is it extremely complex with thousands in the portal?
And this week has been an NCAA recruiting Dead Period, so there hasn't been much action.
And considering how many players have exited the MVC, there have been relatively few new portal commitments so far (a total of 8 portal transfers for 11 MVC teams)
The two teams wiped out by coaching changes and near-complete roster departures (Murray St. & Drake) have landed most of the transfers so far (6 of the 8 ), because they are a bit more desperate to reload their rosters, and their new coaches have brought in players they had connections with from their prior coaching jobs.
Here are the MVC portal transfers, so far...
The numbers are not meant as criticism of any player, but to compare with the huge amount of production each team lost from this past season.
Murray State-
Mason Miller- 1.1 ppg and 17% from three at Creighton- he is the nephew of new Murray State head coach Ryan Miller and played for him as an assistant at Creighton
Fredrick King- 2.7 ppg, 1.3 rpg at Creighton- also played for new Murray State head coach at Creighton,
K.J. Tenner- 2.4 ppg, 0.7 rpg, 1.1 apg at West Virginia
Ben Shtolzberg- 3.8 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 1.5 apg, 20.0% from three at UC Santa Barbara- he also previously played for Ryan Miller at Creighton
Drake-
Braden Appelhans- 3.3 ppg, 0.7 rpg, 0.5 apg in 31 games at New Mexico
Owen Larson- 9.2 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 2.6 apg, 38.7% from three- played for new Drake coach Eric Henderson at South Dakota State
Belmont-
Isaiah West- 2.5 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 0.7 apg in 31 games at Samford
UIC-
Mekhi Lowery- 5.6 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 1.7 apg, 20.0% from three in 29 games at Towson
Evansville-
A.J. Casey- three year career average 1.4 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 8.7% from three, and a career total of 13 assists in 56 games
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Originally posted by bradleyfan124 View PostThe MVC losing players is killing the conference. In the game last night the leading scorer for Florida was Richards who played at Belmont a couple years ago
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Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
Yes, and it's not just MVC teams. Johni Broome, Auburn's dominating big man, who has won multiple National Player of the Year awards, played the first 2 years of his college career at Morehead State. And just about every team in the Sweet 16 had key players that transferred in from mid-major schools.Thinking is the hardest work, that is why so few people do it. -Henry Ford
Yeah...I've been in college for a while now and I'm pretty sure that awesomest is not a word. -Andrew E.
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