Transfer portal news

[Da Coach]

Starting a separate thread for transfer portal news that is not necessarily MVC related.
As of the time of this post, Verbalcommits reports that the D1 transfer portal is up to 940 names and that number is increasing rapidly - https://verbalcommits.com/transfers

The portal has been open less than 12 hours. It will eventually exceed 2500 names (last year it was about 2500).
There are 364 Division I schools, and this year, the scholarship limit was 13 (it increases to 15 next year).
That means the maximum number of scholarship players in D1 is 13 x 364 = 4,732.
So it's possible that more than half of all scholarship players in D1 will enter the portal.
For the record- the list that verbalcommits maintains is not the actual transfer portal list. it is compiled from reports they gather from other sources. So it might not be complete. Only coaches and AD's have access to the NCAA portal, and it is closely guarded and password protected. Plus some of the names in the portal are not scholarship players. And some might not end up being eligible next year and are currently appealing to the NCAA for an additional year of eligibility. So it's virtually impossible to know exactly what fraction of D1 scholarship players are transferring. But it will probably average out to about 7 per team. I can't believe anyone expected this or thinks it's good for college sports.

[daveineureka]

Agree with you on all points. What ever happened to players committing and going to school for an education first and foremost. Players already get free tuition, room and board. Now on top of it all you have to pay them too to attend your school and play. No more loyalty, now go to a school that gives you the most money. State of affairs these days.I for one hate the NIL as it is going to ruin the game of college basketball in my humble opinion. My two cents worth. Any one else have thoughts.

[houstonbrave]

Do I hate this ? Yes. But the system has been set up this as and would probably require congress to pass a law to dramatically change it. I am afraid many players will transfer multiple times and not get a decent education and pay for it for life ? Yes, but I can also understand a 20 year old saying somebody is willing to pay me an extra 100,000 to play ball so I’ll take it. That is especially for a young person coming from a very difficult economic situation. So, I worry about it hurting kids long term, but understand the perspective.

I also feel many kids don’t have a realistic view of their capabilities. Many think they will get a bunch of money but end up with little or nothing. In fact more will enter the portal than will end up with a seat anywhere.

[bradleyfan124]

Do I hate this ? Yes. But the system has been set up this as and would probably require congress to pass a law to dramatically change it. I am afraid many players will transfer multiple times and not get a decent education and pay for it for life ? Yes, but I can also understand a 20 year old saying somebody is willing to pay me an extra 100,000 to play ball so I’ll take it. That is especially for a young person coming from a very difficult economic situation. So, I worry about it hurting kids long term, but understand the perspective.

I also feel many kids don’t have a realistic view of their capabilities. Many think they will get a bunch of money but end up with little or nothing. In fact more will enter the portal than will end up with a seat anywhere.

Dont get Congress involved .. They would screw it up even more

[Stryker]

My only hope right now is that with schools being able to negotiate directly with players in regards to NIL will result in contracts between the players and schools for multiple years. Say we have a sophomore that is showing a lot of promise. If we can make a contract for 2 years with a 3rd grad year option, it may keep the kid with the team the entire time. Especially if there were significant monetary penalties for breaking the contract. It would probably get agents involved and all kinds of stuff, but that is already happening.

[Da Coach]

My only hope right now is that with schools being able to negotiate directly with players in regards to NIL will result in contracts between the players and schools for multiple years. Say we have a sophomore that is showing a lot of promise. If we can make a contract for 2 years with a 3rd grad year option, it may keep the kid with the team the entire time. Especially if there were significant monetary penalties for breaking the contract. It would probably get agents involved and all kinds of stuff, but that is already happening.

In business contracts, those stipulations are called "restrictive covenants". In some cases, restrictive covenants have been ruled by courts as non-binding, because they restrict an employees' freedom to leave and earn a living elsewhere. But there have been other cases where they are upheld and considered legal, especially if the knowledge the employee has gained at a company, like confidential business secrets, could cause extreme harm to that company, and unfairly benefit a competitor. I don't know how a court would look at such restrictive college NIL contracts. But, if they happen, it will surely lead to more lawsuits.

[bradleyfan124]

My only hope right now is that with schools being able to negotiate directly with players in regards to NIL will result in contracts between the players and schools for multiple years. Say we have a sophomore that is showing a lot of promise. If we can make a contract for 2 years with a 3rd grad year option, it may keep the kid with the team the entire time. Especially if there were significant monetary penalties for breaking the contract. It would probably get agents involved and all kinds of stuff, but that is already happening.

They should put a limit on how much they pay each player...The same amount whether it be$10,000, $20,000 or whatever figure they come up with. That would put everything on a level playing field and help the colleges financially. I think it would also reduce the transferring of players. If everybody got paid the same there would be no incentive to transfer other than playing time or dislike of the coach

[Da Coach]

They should put a limit on how much they pay each player...The same amount whether it be$10,000, $20,000 or whatever figure they come up with. That would put everything on a level playing field and help the colleges financially. I think it would also reduce the transferring of players. If everybody got paid the same there would be no incentive to transfer other than playing time or dislike of the coach

That seems to make sense, but unfortunately would not hold up in court, IMO. The original case that lead to NIL being allowable by the NCAA was based on a claim of restraint of trade and players being able to have the right to own their name, image and likeness. So I don't think there will be any limit put on the amounts.

[bradleyfan124]

That seems to make sense, but unfortunately would not hold up in court, IMO. The original case that lead to NIL being allowable by the NCAA was based on a claim of restraint of trade and players being able to have the right to own their name, image and likeness. So I don't think there will be any limit put on the amounts.

You are correct except they are not being paid for their name, image and likeness now. It is like the wild west out their .They are being paid to just play basketball. I think they could still put $ amounts for each activity they participate in. Still agreeing with the original premise of the lawsuit but take it further by putting limits on the payments. Some kind of limit. Where is the Lincoln Lawyer when you need him?

[Da Coach]

Here is the effects of the 3 big changes in the last few years that have changed college sports- NIL, the transfer portal and immediate eligibility.
This is a graphic of the Sweet 16 teams in the NCAA Tournament, and which colleges their starting 5 players originally came from.
Try to guess which school is which. A few are easy, Michigan State, Purdue, BYU, Houston, and Purdue. But most are not.
I count 9 of them that have all 5 starters from different colleges.

[Stryker]

Here is the effects of the 3 big changes in the last few years that have changed college sports- NIL, the transfer portal and immediate eligibility.
This is a graphic of the Sweet 16 teams in the NCAA Tournament, and which colleges their starting 5 players originally came from.
Try to guess which school is which. A few are easy, Michigan State, Purdue, BYU, Houston, and Purdue. But most are not.

Purdue (Bottom, 6th column), Michigan St. (Top, 4th column), Duke (Bottom, 1st column), TN (Bottom, 8th column), Houston (Bottom, 5th column), BYU (Bottom, 3rd column), maybe Maryland (Top, 6th column). So 6/16, maybe 7/16 can be guessed essentially. Really it is pretty crazy when it starts getting broken down and analyzed.

[Da Coach]

Your guesses are right. Maryland does have JaCobi Gillespie from Belmont, so that gives it away (top row, 6th column).
And the one just to its left is Florida. They also have a former Belmont player, Will Richard, as a starter. But the rest I'd have to do a little cheating to guess.

[Da Coach]

Breaking news- Bennett Stirtz intends to transfer to Iowa - https://x.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1904563790651306075

[Bacci'sAftertheGym]

I'm hearing that Cooper Koch is on campus today...

[Big Mike]

I'm hearing that Cooper Koch is on campus today...

Yes please!