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  • #16
    Originally posted by tomahawk chop View Post

    Because the travelling was not called it kept a cinderella team out of the sweet 16.
    Exactly right! It’s a conspiracy!
    Larry Bird
    I've got a theory that if you give 100 percent all of the time, somehow things will work out in the end.

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    • #17
      I know Colo St was a 12 seed and I know the Mountain West isn't a Power 5 or BCS conference, but I don't view Colo St or the Mountain West as Mid-major.

      Feeling disappointed that they didn't advance as a Cinderella is exactly what the Power5 and BCS wants all of us to believe. Their view of a great March Madness filled with Cinderella stories are like watching a BCS Play-in Team like Texas advancing to the Final 4. That's what they think is magical in March Madness. They think that will make people wanna watch it more; attend more events; spend more money, etc.

      And that misses the point of the Cinderella story completely. That will eventually drive the fever pitched enthusiasm away from the event and sport. Won't kill college hoops, just change it to something else. A boring collection of games showing off individual players creating highlights of dunks. Heck - might as well just admit the finished product desired by the Power5/BCS is something like an And1 event.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Tommy View Post
        Talking about Cinderellas, did anyone else happen to see the winning shot for Maryland? Was that an egregious travel? He practically did it in slow motion.
        How did NOBODY doing the broadcast even question a travel there! I just saw it and easily 3-steps - shoulda been a travel call. What a shame for Colorado St.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by MacabreMob View Post
          I know Colo St was a 12 seed and I know the Mountain West isn't a Power 5 or BCS conference, but I don't view Colo St or the Mountain West as Mid-major.

          Feeling disappointed that they didn't advance as a Cinderella is exactly what the Power5 and BCS wants all of us to believe. Their view of a great March Madness filled with Cinderella stories are like watching a BCS Play-in Team like Texas advancing to the Final 4. That's what they think is magical in March Madness. They think that will make people wanna watch it more; attend more events; spend more money, etc.

          And that misses the point of the Cinderella story completely. That will eventually drive the fever pitched enthusiasm away from the event and sport. Won't kill college hoops, just change it to something else. A boring collection of games showing off individual players creating highlights of dunks. Heck - might as well just admit the finished product desired by the Power5/BCS is something like an And1 event.
          I agree with your point fully, other than mid-major. According to Google:
          In men's college basketball, a mid-major is typically defined as a team that is not a member of one of the six major conferences (ACC, Big East, Pac-12, SEC, Big Ten, Big 12) and is outside the "power conferences" of the Big Ten, Big 12, SEC, ACC, and Big East. The term "mid-major" was coined in 1977 by Jack Kvancz, the head coach of men's basketball at Catholic University of America. The NCAA does not use the terms "major" or "mid-major" to differentiate between Division I athletic conferences, but the term is commonly used by analysts and fans to describe teams that are not part of the power conferences.
          Larry Bird
          I've got a theory that if you give 100 percent all of the time, somehow things will work out in the end.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by LittleBrave View Post

            How did NOBODY doing the broadcast even question a travel there! I just saw it and easily 3-steps - shoulda been a travel call. What a shame for Colorado St.
            LB you are 100% correct. No one even mentioned a possible travel. According to the rules a player is only allowed 1 1/2 steps after he picks up his dribble. He than must shoot or pass the ball before his second foot hits the floor.I've watched the replay many times and its safe to say he took 3 steps. That probably would have been called in the NBA and they don't call much.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by wily coyote View Post

              LB you are 100% correct. No one even mentioned a possible travel. According to the rules a player is only allowed 1 1/2 steps after he picks up his dribble. He than must shoot or pass the ball before his second foot hits the floor.I've watched the replay many times and its safe to say he took 3 steps. That probably would have been called in the NBA and they don't call much.
              The studio experts tried to argue the first step was a "gather step "

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              • #22
                Originally posted by egib52 View Post

                The studio experts tried to argue the first step was a "gather step "
                who were the studio experts and what the heck is a gather step never seen that term in any rule book ive seen, Also that would leave two more steps and thats 1/2 to many. It was an uncalled travel plain and simple.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by wily coyote View Post

                  who were the studio experts and what the heck is a gather step never seen that term in any rule book ive seen, Also that would leave two more steps and thats 1/2 to many. It was an uncalled travel plain and simple.
                  Oh I agree, but the gather step is a new NBA term to justify traveling.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by wily coyote View Post

                    who were the studio experts and what the heck is a gather step never seen that term in any rule book ive seen, Also that would leave two more steps and thats 1/2 to many. It was an uncalled travel plain and simple.
                    If there is such a thing as a gather step, that ain't it. That dude took 3 long, slow, deliberate steps AFTER having full control of the ball. Terrible no call. Or as Charles would say, turrible.
                    Larry Bird
                    I've got a theory that if you give 100 percent all of the time, somehow things will work out in the end.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Tommy View Post

                      If there is such a thing as a gather step, that ain't it. That dude took 3 long, slow, deliberate steps AFTER having full control of the ball. Terrible no call. Or as Charles would say, turrible.
                      Another trend we see now in college and NBA basketball that should be a violation is the "jump step", also called the "hop step". - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by0SAPZZSuc

                      A player will end his dribble, or in some cases, receive a pass, then they jump, or hop to reposition both feet before they launch a shot. You see it in every game, and technically, it should be traveling, but it is never called. Sometimes, players will stretch it even further and do two hops, and even that obvious travel isn't always called. It has become a regularly accepted move now.

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                      • #26
                        Same with the dribble carry, which only gets called when we get referee Gary Maxwell who hates Wardle

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                        • #27
                          Speaking of things that should be outlawed, I saw this video of a move that should definitely be illegal - https://x.com/Fun_Viral_Vids/status/1904224191395901783

                          The comments are funny.

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                          • #28
                            I am reading more and more of people stepping up to criticize the NCAA on the Tournament setup with fewer mid-majors, Srephen Smith, J.J Watts

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