NCAA bracket and results

[Tommy]

Tough to say we are a top MM league when we only ever get 1 team in

Yeah, you’re right. We only get one bid regularly in the incredibly fair and just selection process of the NCAA tournament. What was I thinking!

[egib52]

Yeah, you’re right. We only get one bid regularly in the incredibly fair and just selection process of the NCAA tournament. What was I thinking!

Well the mountain West, got multiple again. I'm not saying it's fair, just tough to call it great when we are a 1 bid, double digit seed conf for years now.

[Dubl R 1]

I also love how they all pick Drake to do major damage and beat these power teams.. but yet they still need to over earn their way in.. let’s remember no team outside the valley could beat them this year.

if u think they are so good now, why don’t they get that respect before the autobid.

way too much weight in losing to good teams is given.. like I said anybody can lose a bunch of games to ranked teams.. like Vanderbilt (who Drake beat easily)

[Dubl R 1]

A player will eventually sue the NCAA and the selection process on the grounds that it prevents them from maximizing their NIL potential by showcasing their game in the tourney.

The selection process is not transparent, there are no “hard benchmark requirements” for selection, it reeks of conflict of interest, and an algorithm used for selection is designed to favor certain teams and conferences who all participate under the same organization (NCAA Basketball)

[bradleyfan124]

A player will eventually sue the NCAA and the selection process on the grounds that it prevents them from maximizing their NIL potential by showcasing their game in the tourney.

The selection process is not transparent, there are no “hard benchmark requirements” for selection, it reeks of conflict of interest, and an algorithm used for selection is designed to favor certain teams and conferences who all participate under the same organization (NCAA Basketball)

All the problems the NCAA has now has been brought on by themselves. Their favoritism, their conflicts of interests, their greed, lack of equal enforcement of their rules.

[egib52]

A player will eventually sue the NCAA and the selection process on the grounds that it prevents them from maximizing their NIL potential by showcasing their game in the tourney.

The selection process is not transparent, there are no “hard benchmark requirements” for selection, it reeks of conflict of interest, and an algorithm used for selection is designed to favor certain teams and conferences who all participate under the same organization (NCAA Basketball)

Indiana State last year would have had the best argument in recent years because their own rigged metric said they should be in.

[Stryker]

Indiana State last year would have had the best argument in recent years because their own rigged metric said they should be in.

Honestly I don't know why a class action lawsuit hasn't already been filed.

[BravesWinINStyle]

There were 7 multibid leagues and 25 one-bid leagues. And of the 7 multibid leagues, the WCC/MWC are losing their top teams next summer, so it'll be down to 5-6 multibid leagues.

The A10, AAC, etc. are now one-bid leagues. This is now the 2nd time in 3 years the A10 is a one-bid league.

I don't even know what the solution is. If you're not in the P4, Big East, or new Pac-12, we're all helpless. The P4 control everything and constantly move the rules/metrics/goalposts until they lock every mid-major league in the country of an at-large bid.

This sport is a lost cause.

[BravesWinINStyle]

A player will eventually sue the NCAA and the selection process on the grounds that it prevents them from maximizing their NIL potential by showcasing their game in the tourney.

The selection process is not transparent, there are no “hard benchmark requirements” for selection, it reeks of conflict of interest, and an algorithm used for selection is designed to favor certain teams and conferences who all participate under the same organization (NCAA Basketball)

Yes, if you take the top-15 mid-majors, the vast majority of them had way better RPIs than NETs. We still have no idea what goes into NET - a formula that magically inflates the P5 schools and hits the mid-majors - but no one even knows the components of it.

How does this not get more national attention?

[yoda]

Yes, if you take the top-15 mid-majors, the vast majority of them had way better RPIs than NETs. We still have no idea what goes into NET - a formula that magically inflates the P5 schools and hits the mid-majors - but no one even knows the components of it.

How does this not get more national attention?

The NET takes into account preseason ranking and opponents’ strength of schedule -both of which greatly favor the Power Conference teams who obviously get to play ranked teams on their home court all through the conference season.
Rutgers is not a good team, even losing to Kennesaw State, but they were ranked preseason and had 17 chances to play a Quad 1 (lost 13) so of course their NET IS BETTER than every MVC team except Drake.

[egib52]

Yes, if you take the top-15 mid-majors, the vast majority of them had way better RPIs than NETs. We still have no idea what goes into NET - a formula that magically inflates the P5 schools and hits the mid-majors - but no one even knows the components of it.

How does this not get more national attention?

I heard there is some new metric that simulates how bubble teams would do against other bubble teams, which supposedly helped UNC.

[Dubl R 1]

I heard there is some new metric that simulates how bubble teams would do against other bubble teams, which supposedly helped UNC.

Of course it did.. new metric that helps “bubble teams” implemented right when UNC needed it!… I mean this crap is comical.

Heres a metric.. win more games than u lose in your conference for 1, throw out “rankings” which are just opinions, no more than 6 teams from each conference.. don’t like it?… get better or join another conference

[Da Coach]

I heard there is some new metric that simulates how bubble teams would do against other bubble teams, which supposedly helped UNC.

Yes, the NCAA NET formula was apparently felt they were allowing too many mid-majors into the tournament, so they tweaked it for this year by adding 2 more metrics- Torvik and WAB (Wins Above Bubble) - to favor the bottom feeders in the power conferences - https://www.anonymouseagle.com/2024/...e-wab-criteria

Here is another explanation from the NCAA on Wins Above Bubble - https://www.ncaa.org/news/2025/3/5/breaking-down-the-ncaa-division-i-mens-and-womens-basketball-committees-selection-criteria.aspx#:~:text=Wins%20Against%20Bubble,vers us%20your%20schedule

It seems they think that if they add enough redundant metrics into their mix, they will be more likely to find one of them that gives them an excuse to leave any team out that they want.

[Stryker]

There were 7 multibid leagues and 25 one-bid leagues. And of the 7 multibid leagues, the WCC/MWC are losing their top teams next summer, so it'll be down to 5-6 multibid leagues.

The A10, AAC, etc. are now one-bid leagues. This is now the 2nd time in 3 years the A10 is a one-bid league.

I don't even know what the solution is. If you're not in the P4, Big East, or new Pac-12, we're all helpless. The P4 control everything and constantly move the rules/metrics/goalposts until they lock every mid-major league in the country of an at-large bid.

This sport is a lost cause.

This is true. I'd be interesting to see an analysis on the actual at large bids. A big change has been a lot of programs moving into Power conferences over the past 5-10 years. So while more mid-majors have been losing auto-bids, is it really just because the good teams in those mid-major conferences have moved to power conferences? Think Butler, Creighton, etc.

What I would like to see is if mid-majors are actually getting fewer bids compared to 15 years ago, or is it just because the old powers of the mid majors are now considered power teams. SEC has 16 teams, BIG has 18, ACC has 18, BIG12 has 16, BIGEast has 11. The only power conference to lose teams over the past 20 years is the Big East. There are 79 teams in those 5 conferences now, but the P6 (Including PAC10) had 73 teams in 2010. So is the net change really only 6 teams that have basically moved into power conferences in the past 15 years? If so, it doesn't seem logical that mid-major conferences would be losing so many at-large bids.

Everything is so messed up and confusing, and I think it is almost by design. No way to compare things over time, no way to truly make evaluations. And the power teams keep taking more.

[yoda]

Yes, the NCAA NET formula was apparently felt they were allowing too many mid-majors into the tournament.....

and on the televised selection show, the big wigs including the Chairman Bubba Cunningham (UNC Athletic Director)
spent an inordinate amount of time detailing the terrible, laborious task they had to perform, trying to figure out how
to place and how to seed 14 teams from the same conference into just four Regionals, and to do so very carefully
that none of them would have to play each other - and have an easy path to the Sweet 16 without the possibility
of knocking each other out...

Here's the clip - scroll to 1:20 to listen to Bubba's preposterous claim that there was no bias in UNC getting in,
and scroll to 3:05 to see his ridiculous defense on how they screwed over other teams just to make sure the SEC Power-5 guys all had favorable seeding and easy paths to the Sweet 16
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