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Are they at the same level?
I can see the argument, but personally I think over the past decade the Valley has shown itself CLEARLY superior.
Year in an year out, the RPI's have the Valley higher - often MUCH higher with the Horizon down at 17th-19th, and how many Horizon coaches are nabbed and hired away by the BCS schools?
The lower half of the Horizon (Cleveland, State, Wisc.-GB, Youngstown St., etc.) have been 200+ RPI while very few of the MVC schools in the past 5 years have been that bad.
Even Butler was RPI=241 just two years ago.
In arguably one of their VERY BEST years ever, when Wisconsin Milwaukee made a run to the Sweet Sixteen (2005), ONLY one team in their entire conference had an RPI above 145, and the MVC had SIX teams higher than that in 2005 and a 7th at 146!
Last year ALL TEN MVC schools had RPI's higher than 140, while only three Horizon teams were under 159.
And in the past FIVE years, not one Horizon League team has had a Strength of Schedule better than 99, while every single MVC has had a SOS that high each of the past two years.
No way the HL is as good or as strong as the MVC, and even the head to head results prove it with SIU beating Butler last year, and Bradley clobbering 3 of the TOP FOUR Horizon teams last year (Wright St., Loyola, UIC)
I can see the argument, but personally I think over the past decade the Valley has shown itself CLEARLY superior.
Year in an year out, the RPI's have the Valley higher - often MUCH higher with the Horizon down at 17th-19th, and how many Horizon coaches are nabbed and hired away by the BCS schools?
The lower half of the Horizon (Cleveland, State, Wisc.-GB, Youngstown St., etc.) have been 200+ RPI while very few of the MVC schools in the past 5 years have been that bad.
Even Butler was RPI=241 just two years ago.
In arguably one of their VERY BEST years ever, when Wisconsin Milwaukee made a run to the Sweet Sixteen (2005), ONLY one team in their entire conference had an RPI above 145, and the MVC had SIX teams higher than that in 2005 and a 7th at 146!
Last year ALL TEN MVC schools had RPI's higher than 140, while only three Horizon teams were under 159.
And in the past FIVE years, not one Horizon League team has had a Strength of Schedule better than 99, while every single MVC has had a SOS that high each of the past two years.
No way the HL is as good or as strong as the MVC, and even the head to head results prove it with SIU beating Butler last year, and Bradley clobbering 3 of the TOP FOUR Horizon teams last year (Wright St., Loyola, UIC)
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