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    In this day and age of NIL and the portal where teams are having to see who stays and who goes every year. I will put my two cents in for what it is worth. How about when a player commits to your program you have to make it crystal clear you are staying for two years. At the end of that second year if the player wishes to enter the portal he may. To me the only exception to the rule is when there is a coaching change. They then can transfer out if they so desire. Would even out the playing field in the college landscape where you do not have to restructure your roster every year. Am sure the NCAA would not go along with this idea, but just airing my thoughts. Would like to hear any other thoughts that others have on the subject.

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    ​​The courts have been clear, the NCAA can't restrict movement.

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    • #3
      I do agree that some kind of change would be smart and might slow the avalanche of transfers.
      However, a sizeable portion of these transfers do occur after a player's freshman year, since that is when they often realize they are not a good fit or that the coach who recruited them mislead (or lied) about how much playing time and what role the recruit was expected to play. Such a rule would force those players to stay another year, waste another year of their eligibility, and play for a coach that they don't want to play for.
      Also, coaches have the option not to renew a kid's scholarship after the first year, or any year, so would this rule force that player to stay even if he wasn't part of the team? IMO, the player likewise should have the ability to transfer after any year.

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      • #4
        Both previous posts have their valid points. Just wish it was not a constant turnover on teams roster year after year. Whatever happened to going to a school to get an education. A school should be a place of higher learning, not where you can get the most money from NIL. Hope one day it returns to that. But sadly I do not see that.

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        • #5
          I saw an idea somewhere, that if a player transfers out you almost treat it as you would a coach being bought out when they move to a different job while employed. Thought it was an interesting way to go about it and liked the idea.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Tomahawk View Post
            Both previous posts have their valid points. Just wish it was not a constant turnover on teams roster year after year. Whatever happened to going to a school to get an education. A school should be a place of higher learning, not where you can get the most money from NIL. Hope one day it returns to that. But sadly I do not see that.
            Unfortunately the commercialization of college sports let that genie out a long time ago. Imagine if schools only charged what it cost for kids to go to school, and games weren't broadcast on TV, radio or Internet. There would be much less concern about money.

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            • #7
              The one thing that might slow it down are the kids who put their names in the portal and then end up with no scholarship offer when they probably could have stayed at their present school.
              i believe i heard over 100 kids were never offered a scholarship that had one the previous year.
              Someone else may be able to verify that as I'm not positive just what i heard.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by basketball nut View Post
                The one thing that might slow it down are the kids who put their names in the portal and then end up with no scholarship offer when they probably could have stayed at their present school.
                i believe i heard over 100 kids were never offered a scholarship that had one the previous year.
                Someone else may be able to verify that as I'm not positive just what i heard.
                I hope someone is keeping these stats to show kids

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                • #9
                  I have read various statistics that as many as 25-30% of Division I basketball players do not end up with an offer. That obviously varies by year. And it doesn't count players who end up transferring down to Division II schools, when they had a D1 scholarship that they gave up. Plus a lot of kids end up accepting a walk-on spot after giving up a scholarship.
                  I think it's about the same or maybe a little higher for the D2 transfer portal, since if they transfer down to Division III, the NCAA does not allow athletic scholarships at that level.
                  For the football transfer portal, it is even higher, especially at the FBS level. 40% of those scholarship transfer portal kids lose their scholarship and don't get another one - https://footballscoop.com/news/ncaa-...er-portal-data

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                  • #10
                    During the ISU -Cincinnati game yesterday, the announcers were discussing Jason Kent. One of the announcers stated that Kent left Bradley because he had been told that he really wasn’t part of BU’s plans for the next year and was probably going to have his scholarship pulled. First time I heard that explanation. Any truth in what was said?

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                    • #11
                      That is a story that came from a newspaper article a few weeks ago. II think it was mentioned by the CBS announcers at the MVC tournament. It is not true. The Bradley coaches, and most coaches meet with their players after every season and discuss things like their role and what they need to do to get more playing time. Jayson was told he needed to get stronger, more aggressive, and improve his shooting (he shot just 26% from three at Bradley). His scholarship was not pulled. The coaches saw his potential and wanted him to work on reaching it. But with most of Bradley's roster returning for 2022-23, including JaShon, he realized his playing time would be limited. He chose to transfer to a rebuilding team under a new coach, and because his friend Robbie Avila was committed there. Note his stats below. He actually played less his first year at Indiana State than he had at Bradley. His minutes went from over 20 minutes per game at Bradley in 2021-22 to just 14 mpg at InSU on 20w2-23. And his scoring and other stats went down.
                      BU stats 2021-22- https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...71/season/2022
                      InSU stats 2022-23- https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...82/season/2023

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by The Old Guy View Post
                        During the ISU -Cincinnati game yesterday, the announcers were discussing Jason Kent. One of the announcers stated that Kent left Bradley because he had been told that he really wasn’t part of BU’s plans for the next year and was probably going to have his scholarship pulled. First time I heard that explanation. Any truth in what was said?
                        I don't think that is true at all. Kent was a decent player for us and started almost half of the games and averaged 20 minutes per game his Sophomore season. He was probably competing for playing time here, but Wardle has never pulled a scholarship from a player at Bradley that I'm aware of.

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                        • #13
                          Thank you. I thought that statement was false.

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