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    Some changes coming for high school basketball-
    https://www.nfhs.org/articles/free-t...rules-changes/

    Most notable of the changes is the elimination of the 1-and-1 bonus free throw situation for common fouls. Now, when the bonus is reached, all common fouls will be 2 free throws.
    The explanation for the change-
    “The rules committee studied data that showed higher injury rates on rebounding situations and saw this as an opportunity to reduce opportunities for rough play during rebounds,”

    I'm not sure I've seen too many injuries on the 1-and-1 free throw situations. And, isn't there still a chance of injury when the 2nd of the 2 free throws is missed?

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    Yeah, can't have all that jumping in basketball.
    Larry Bird
    I've got a theory that if you give 100 percent all of the time, somehow things will work out in the end.

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    • #3
      Should eliminate the games I guess....that's when all the inuries occur.

      What a joke. No shot clock, no one and one, good luck coming back in a game.

      It seems we are eliminating anything "difficult" in all walks of life. Anything where stepping up is required, we lessen it and make it soft. oh well thats my old man rant.
      DUBL R 1

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      • #4
        Better just eliminate all rebounding. Every missed shot will result in possession going to the team on defense. Also, better establish height and weight limits on players. They're getting so big it poses an injury risk.

        Stupid. The one-and-one is a key to the game.

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        • #5
          Just when you think they cannot do another stupid thing as far as rules I see this unbelievable move. They are ruining the game. The only thing that the IHSA needs for basketball is a shot clock period.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by tomahawk chop View Post
            Just when you think they cannot do another stupid thing as far as rules I see this unbelievable move. They are ruining the game. The only thing that the IHSA needs for basketball is a shot clock period.
            Ditto!

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            • #7
              That may be the dumbest rule I’ve ever read. Who is making this stuff up?

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              • #8
                Poor babies. Every shot should count whether it goes in or not. This way, rebounding will be eliminated altogether. Maybe zone and man-to-man defense should be eliminated, too. This way, chances of tickytack fouls will be reduced significantly.
                My first BU hoops game was on 12/30/1963. My dad took me to watch the Braves defeat Arizona 67-59. He helped me get Coach Orsborn's autograph before the game.

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                • #9
                  I don't know about HS but the women's college game has had that rule for several years now. Bonus starts with 5th foul each quarter I believe.

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                  • #10
                    No mention by the national organization of a universal shot clock. 17 states and DC use a shot clock for some or all games, and it's been successful. But, the majority of states do not. The main excuse given is that it is costly to purchase and install the equipment, and a lot of smaller school districts can't afford it. But who wants to watch a game with one team holding the ball for minutes at a time? It is mostly a one-time expense, just like it is for all the other equipment, scoreboards, uniforms, etc. Every higher level plays with the shot clock now, so somehow, they need to get it done.

                    Here is an article about an Oklahoma high school game that ended 4-2 with one team holding the ball for nearly the entire game.
                    https://sports.yahoo.com/ridiculousl...140619434.html

                    Playing slow-down ball hurts kids chances to show what they can do, and can deprive them of college and scholarship opportunities, IMO.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                      No mention by the national organization of a universal shot clock. 17 states and DC use a shot clock for some or all games, and it's been successful. But, the majority of states do not. The main excuse given is that it is costly to purchase and install the equipment, and a lot of smaller school districts can't afford it. But who wants to watch a game with one team holding the ball for minutes at a time? It is mostly a one-time expense, just like it is for all the other equipment, scoreboards, uniforms, etc. Every higher level plays with the shot clock now, so somehow, they need to get it done.

                      Here is an article about an Oklahoma high school game that ended 4-2 with one team holding the ball for nearly the entire game.
                      https://sports.yahoo.com/ridiculousl...140619434.html

                      Playing slow-down ball hurts kids chances to show what they can do, and can deprive them of college and scholarship opportunities, IMO.
                      I agree 100%. I'm mostly for making basketball as universal as possible, so I'm also a proponent of moving men's college basketball from halves to quarters.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Old Coach View Post

                        I agree 100%. I'm mostly for making basketball as universal as possible, so I'm also a proponent of moving men's college basketball from halves to quarters.
                        I thought after the women's game went to quarter's and did away with one and ones that the men would eventually follow.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by basketball nut View Post

                          I thought after the women's game went to quarter's and did away with one and ones that the men would eventually follow.
                          College basketball rules were standardized in 1905 to have two 20 minute halves. But the rules did change in 1951 and switched from 2 halves to four ten-minute quarters. But that lasted only 3 years, and in 1954, it went back to two 20-minute halves for reasons that nobody seems to remember. But, it has remained the same since 1954.
                          Women's basketball switched to the four 10-minute quarters in the 2016-17 season.
                          There were reports back in 2017 that the NCAA would explore the idea of changing men's basketball from two halves to four quarters. It seems most people are in favor of it. And it would allow for more breaks that could increase ad revenues. But the last few years, I haven't read any more about it.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Da Coach View Post

                            College basketball rules were standardized in 1905 to have two 20 minute halves. But the rules did change in 1951 and switched from 2 halves to four ten-minute quarters. But that lasted only 3 years, and in 1954, it went back to two 20-minute halves for reasons that nobody seems to remember. But, it has remained the same since 1954.
                            Women's basketball switched to the four 10-minute quarters in the 2016-17 season.
                            There were reports back in 2017 that the NCAA would explore the idea of changing men's basketball from two halves to four quarters. It seems most people are in favor of it. And it would allow for more breaks that could increase ad revenues. But the last few years, I haven't read any more about it.
                            My opinion is based on the the idea that it's the only level of basketball in world that doesn't play 4 quarters. Seem easy to universalize that.

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                            • #15
                              Makes sense to me. I don't know why the NCAA seems stuck on the 20 minute halves.

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