Transfer portal

[jturner38]

You forgot Jalen Jackson is heading to IPFW.

[Da Coach]

A few more updates to the MVC transfers today-
Indiana State's Cameron Crawford commits to Marshall, Evansville's Matúš Malovec commits to Eastern Florida State College (juco), and UIC's Jace Carter commits to Texas A&M.

[Da Coach]

Updated- MVC players in the portal-
Jace Carter- UIC- transferring to Texas A&M
Jalen Jackson- UIC- transferring to IPFW
Blaise Beauchamp- Evansville
Jonathan Dunn- Missouri State
Evan Brauns- Belmont- Transferring to Iowa
Dawson Carper- Missouri State
Kenny White, Jr.- Murray State
Cam Palesse - Valparaiso
Frank Jacubicek- Belmont
Michael Shanks- Belmont - transferring to Tennessee State
Antoine Smith- Evansville
Jonathan Mogbo- Missouri State- transferring to San Francisco
Joe Petrakis- Illinois State- transferring to Western Illinois
E.J. Bellinger- Belmont - transferring to Tennessee State
Okay Djamgouz- Drake- transferring to Maine
Rienk Mast- Bradley- transferring to Nebraska
Alston Andrews- Illinois State
Bryceson Burns- Drake
Trey Hall- Evansville
Liam McChesney- Illinois State
Issa Samake- Drake
Ben Krikke- Valparaiso- Transferring to Iowa
Cameron Crawford- Indiana State- transferring to Marshall
Zach Hobbs- Indiana State
James "Pop" Weathers- Bradley
Chris Moncrief- Evansville
Preston Phillips- Evansville
Zaveion Chism-- Evansville
Gabe Spinelli- Evansville- transferring to Monmouth
Matúš Malovec- Evansville- transferring to Eastern Florida State College (juco)
Dalton Banks- SIU- transferring to Illinois State
D.J. Burns- Murray State- transferring to Youngstown State
Zek Montgomery- Bradley- transferring to Rhode Island
Logan McIntire- Evansville
Marcus Domask- SIU - Transferring to Illinois
Rob Martin- Indiana State- transferring to SEMO
Lance Jones- SIU- transferring to Purdue
Jaxson Edwards- Murray State
Isaac Holmes- Indiana State
Max Nelson- Valparaiso
Preston Ruedinger- Valparaiso
Alex Kotov- Illinois State
Foster Wonders- SIU- transferring to Green Bay
Marlon Lestin- Murray State
Jayden Johnson- Illinois State

If I'm missing anyone's transfer info, let me know.

[tomahawk chop]

Good points! I have thought about doing a study on where all the transfer players actually went, up, down or lateral

Most of the valley players that went to bigger schools have played less minutes and do not start for their teams. I do not see Jones or Domask starting next season. I guess it comes down to what players are actually looking for when they leave a school that they were starters and end up not playing as much for their new one.

[bradleyfan124]

How many players from the MVC in the past few years since the "Portal" has been in full swing...

...have transferred "up" and ....
-gotten as much or more playing time
-been an impact player
-been part of a good, successful team
-accolades, All-Conference, or notable individual success
-or gotten to play or start in the post-season?

**not talking money or NIL benefits - just the main things kids really want when they play college ball

I can think of 4 or 5 ...out of the 80-100 or so players who have transferred from MVC teams the past 3-4 yrs
Reeves, Horne (altho now Horne is apparently unhappy & transferring again)
...maybe Robbins, but he's had to transfer a 2nd time over 3 more seasons to actually get notable success- yet
he still never played in the post-season like he certainly would have a few times at Drake.
- maybe Tyreke Key, altho his playing time & scoring plummetted and he was not a regular starter.
Key went from being an MVC Player of the Year candidate, to being a reserve or 6th man.
LaRavia, is in the NBA but Wake didn't make the post-season & who's to say he wouldn't have gotten to the NBA at InSU?

but the vast majority who have transferred appear to have possiby fallen a bit short of stunning success..
Mosley flamed out at Mizzou, East wasn't even a starter, Roberts played on team that finished low in the standings,
Nolan, Kingsby, Price, Thomas, Gabriel & McAdoo all kinda disappeared, Kent rode the bench,
Yesufu played on a top team but ultimately was unhappy with playing time and is transferring again,
and almost all the rest from the MVC also kinda disappeared - guys that were top MVC players, Smits, Evelyn, Clay
and dozens of others.....etc ...were at best lateral moves...

Hard to say for sure, but seems to me they largely didn't get what would be expected from their portal experience.

Good points! I have thought about doing a study on where all the transfer players actually went, up, down or lateral

[yoda]

How many players from the MVC in the past few years since the "Portal" has been in full swing...

...have transferred "up" and ....
-gotten as much or more playing time
-been an impact player
-been part of a good, successful team
-accolades, All-Conference, or notable individual success
-or gotten to play or start in the post-season?

**not talking money or NIL benefits - just the main things kids really want when they play college ball

I can think of 4 or 5 ...out of the 80-100 or so players who have transferred from MVC teams the past 3-4 yrs
Reeves, Horne (altho now Horne is apparently unhappy & transferring again)
...maybe Robbins, but he's had to transfer a 2nd time over 3 more seasons to actually get notable success- yet
he still never played in the post-season like he certainly would have a few times at Drake.
- maybe Tyreke Key, altho his playing time & scoring plummetted and he was not a regular starter.
Key went from being an MVC Player of the Year candidate, to being a reserve or 6th man.
LaRavia, is in the NBA but Wake didn't make the post-season & who's to say he wouldn't have gotten to the NBA at InSU?

but the vast majority who have transferred appear to have possiby fallen a bit short of stunning success..
Mosley flamed out at Mizzou, East wasn't even a starter, Roberts played on team that finished low in the standings,
Nolan, Kingsby, Price, Thomas, Gabriel & McAdoo all kinda disappeared, Kent rode the bench,
Yesufu played on a top team but ultimately was unhappy with playing time and is transferring again,
and almost all the rest from the MVC also kinda disappeared - guys that were top MVC players, Smits, Evelyn, Clay
and dozens of others.....etc ...were at best lateral moves...

Hard to say for sure, but seems to me they largely didn't get what would be expected from their portal experience.

[FarmHand]

RJ Melendez from Illinois to Georgia

[braves16]

https://twitter.com/dalton3banks/status/1648084775591194630?cxt=HHwWjMC9jeOXlt8tAAAA

Dalton Banks from SIU to ISU

[PhiAlphaBoy]

Valparaiso loses 2 more players from their depleted roster--
New Valpo coach Roger Powell, has 7 open scholarships.

That might just be the best case scenario for a new coach. Throw out the trash and start over. Teams have shown you can rebuild immediately through transfers and the portal.

[Da Coach]

Another Valparaiso player enters the portal. 6'2" sophomore guard Preston Ruedinger was a recruited walk-on his freshman year, and played well enough (13 starts, 3.3 ppg) that he was given a scholarship for this season. However, he played much less this year, mostly due to injuries (only appeared in 9 games, 2.1 ppg) and with Valpo's head coach Matt Lottich let go, he has decided to transfer.
Bio- https://verbalcommits.com/players/preston-ruedinger
Stats- https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...ston-ruedinger

This leaves Valparaiso with just 6 scholarship players- Darius DeAveiro, Connor Barrett, Ibra Bayu, Emil Freese-Vilien, Joe Hedstrom, and Jerome Palm.
Whoever they hire will need to do a lot of work to rebuild that roster.

Valparaiso loses 2 more players from their depleted roster-- Little-used players Joe Hedstrom and Emil Freese-Vilien have decided to retire from basketball for medical reasons.

https://twitter.com/TVBOren/status/1648030109675188226

That now leaves Valpo with just 4 returning players for 2023-24, none of whom were starters. and who cumulatively averaged only about 10 points last season (Darius DeAveiro, Connor Barrett, Ibra Bayu, and Jerome Palm). They have two 2023 recruits signed, Canadian high schoolers Jahari Williamson, and Yanis Bamba, and they just got a commitment from a preferred walk-on (Weston Aigner).
New Valpo coach Roger Powell, has 7 open scholarships.

[Da Coach]

Adam Miller in portal

Adam Miller commits to Arizona State

[Stryker]

Claims vary, but the numbers suggest only a few get the big money.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/spor...-made/3765040/
Top athletes get $1-2 million, maybe more. Many in money sports at the big schools get $50-100K.
Almost all the rest get $1,000-10,000. Numbers are not widely being reported, there's no obligation to make the deals public.
But if anyone says players at the midmajor level are getting way, way more, then I would love to see any such evidence.

Interestingly, one of the only places some of the figures have been revealed is from this marketing firm Bloomberg reported on
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...much#xj4y7vzkg
$900 million, split 100,000 ways with men's basketball getting 20%, works out to about $36K average across all of DI men's basketball.
But I doubt more than a few pct of mid-major players get above that average.

Agreed. It is heavily skewed towards the top. Both nationally, and on each team. It wouldn't surprise if most mid major starters were getting $10-$15k or so, with the star players getting $25-$30k. Real hard to guess though.

[yoda]

Claims vary, but the numbers suggest only a few get the big money.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/spor...-made/3765040/
Top athletes get $1-2 million, maybe more. Many in money sports at the big schools get $50-100K.
Almost all the rest get $1,000-10,000. Numbers are not widely being reported, there's no obligation to make the deals public.
But if anyone says players at the midmajor level are getting way, way more, then I would love to see any such evidence.

Interestingly, one of the only places some of the figures have been revealed is from this marketing firm Bloomberg reported on
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...much#xj4y7vzkg
$900 million, split 100,000 ways with men's basketball getting 20%, works out to about $36K average across all of DI men's basketball.
But I doubt more than a few pct of mid-major players get above that average.

[ManMythLegend]

Correct.

on3 assigns value to every athlete based on their social media followers. In some states, disclosure of NIL deals is law. But for HOTB contracts, the numbers will never be public for many reasons.

And we can compete with just about anyone in the country, frankly.

Glad to hear that. Thanks for the bit of insight.

[PhiAlphaBoy]

And we can compete with just about anyone in the country, frankly.

This is great to hear JMM28! As a lifelong Bradley fan I am very appreciative of the group of 5 who took the initiative and time to set up (and provide seed money) for HOTB.