Transfer portal

[yoda]

So basically Zek is the first big hit we have taken..

Roberts

[Bball31]

There has to be contracts with teams or none of this will get fixed. Pay them directly instead of this behind the back stuff. Also, we have to take advantage of this by getting more talent from lower levels too and play the game. Maybe get some immediate impact high school guys that are being passed over now (even if only for a year). The good news is that while we don't have the resources of the big boys, we can reload every year if we scout good enough as well. We also lose guys to our benefit each year, like Pop, who wasn't going to play here anyway. Is it the best system? Clearly not. But I don't think we have to be complete victims either. We are not at the bottom of the chain fortunately, we are in the middle. The big school are gaining and losing guys every year too, and we saw that can hurt those teams as well, despite having big names, when they don't develop chemistry.

When I think about it, Rienk probably leaves as a grad transfer in the old system anyway. Pop didn't play much. So basically Zek is the first big hit we have taken. And really he was an average player with some potential, but a long way to go. I think we can get just as good of a player in the portal if we play it right and strike at the right time. The staff just has to be good at scouting and projections. I think they should hire like a full time scout or two, baseball style, to watch potential portal targets every year. Where it hurts is not being able to develop team chemistry, and I think even major team fans hate the way this is going. We all love sports because we get to know players/teams and watch them grow. No one gets to do that now. I have to imagine, after the 5th year stuff is done, the NCAA is going to have to do something to stop the madness, because no one is happy.

There is no way universities or the NCAA will ever pay the players or make them sign a contract with financial language. That would make them employees and the NCAA and universities are dead set against that. That would make athletes eligible for worker compensation. That is why the NCAA and their legal team created the term “student athlete”, decades ago under the leadership of Walter Byers. That is what created this. Athletes grew tired of the NCAA and universities making millions and even billions in TV revenue, advertising, tickets, merchandise and more while they received no financial compensation for playing, the sale of their jerseys or an injury.

[Nashville Cat]

When they first started talking about paying players, I was envisioning a system where they signed contracts and were paid directly by the university they played for. This NIL crap where outside sources are paying these kids with no guarantees and no contracts signed is ridiculous and is going to ruin the game.

Like I said on the other thread, if average players with potential like Zek are enticed by entering the portal, we'll be rooting for a brand new team every year, and I don't think anyone wants that.

Agreed, Tommy. Example: Murray St.

[BUfan14]

There has to be contracts with teams or none of this will get fixed. Pay them directly instead of this behind the back stuff. Also, we have to take advantage of this by getting more talent from lower levels too and play the game. Maybe get some immediate impact high school guys that are being passed over now (even if only for a year). The good news is that while we don't have the resources of the big boys, we can reload every year if we scout good enough as well. We also lose guys to our benefit each year, like Pop, who wasn't going to play here anyway. Is it the best system? Clearly not. But I don't think we have to be complete victims either. We are not at the bottom of the chain fortunately, we are in the middle. The big school are gaining and losing guys every year too, and we saw that can hurt those teams as well, despite having big names, when they don't develop chemistry.

When I think about it, Rienk probably leaves as a grad transfer in the old system anyway. Pop didn't play much. So basically Zek is the first big hit we have taken. And really he was an average player with some potential, but a long way to go. I think we can get just as good of a player in the portal if we play it right and strike at the right time. The staff just has to be good at scouting and projections. I think they should hire like a full time scout or two, baseball style, to watch potential portal targets every year. Where it hurts is not being able to develop team chemistry, and I think even major team fans hate the way this is going. We all love sports because we get to know players/teams and watch them grow. No one gets to do that now. I have to imagine, after the 5th year stuff is done, the NCAA is going to have to do something to stop the madness, because no one is happy.

[Bradley3342]

Thing is NIL money was not suppose to be tied into recruiting players. From what I understood it was suppose to only be given to athletes once they were actually attending and playing for said school. This NIL and portal thing is just allowing for more cheating in recruiting players .There is no way the smaller schools will be able to survive if this lasts a few more years.

Everything you said is dead on. This is getting ridiculous.

[JMM28]

Yes but what about the ones that don't? That's my question.

Bradley is good in the NIL game.

[Tommy]

When they first started talking about paying players, I was envisioning a system where they signed contracts and were paid directly by the university they played for. This NIL crap where outside sources are paying these kids with no guarantees and no contracts signed is ridiculous and is going to ruin the game.

Like I said on the other thread, if average players with potential like Zek are enticed by entering the portal, we'll be rooting for a brand new team every year, and I don't think anyone wants that.

[Canton BU fan]

It benefits the ones that have the most money. Power 5 schools that have great football teams that draw 80,000 plus fans will always be able to pay more period.

Yes but what about the ones that don't? That's my question.

[tomahawk chop]

So the thought is this new system benefits Power 5 schools most. Could the day come where teams who routinely finish in the bottom half of those leagues demand tightening this back up?

It benefits the ones that have the most money. Power 5 schools that have great football teams that draw 80,000 plus fans will always be able to pay more period.

[tomahawk chop]

I am sure there are kids in the portal who know they won't get nearly as much playing time, and may not even start or be a part of the regular rotation. But the NIL money seems to more than make up for that.
I hope it works out for Zek and Rienk, but there are already examples of kids who signed with a school only to find out the NIL money they were told they'd get was exaggerated, and not really available for them.

Thing is NIL money was not suppose to be tied into recruiting players. From what I understood it was suppose to only be given to athletes once they were actually attending and playing for said school. This NIL and portal thing is just allowing for more cheating in recruiting players .There is no way the smaller schools will be able to survive if this lasts a few more years.

[Canton BU fan]

So the thought is this new system benefits Power 5 schools most. Could the day come where teams who routinely finish in the bottom half of those leagues demand tightening this back up?

[Da Coach]

I am sure there are kids in the portal who know they won't get nearly as much playing time, and may not even start or be a part of the regular rotation. But the NIL money seems to more than make up for that.
I hope it works out for Zek and Rienk, but there are already examples of kids who signed with a school only to find out the NIL money they were told they'd get was exaggerated, and not really available for them.

[Dubl R 1]

What bothers me is schools like Bradley have become a Juco for the big schools....show any talent above average and get plucked up for Big $$$$ and play on national TV...except it doesn't work out more often than naught.....but they still get the $$$$$

of course....I mean you are a fool if you didn't see this coming 2 years ago when they allowed this. It will only get worse...the next thing will be guys joining teams that are specific players away from winning...I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet...Say if everybody would have stayed at BU, and other top players in the conference thought "well If we join them we will be unstoppable"....who knows? Im not sure what these kids want..some instances point towards $$, some playing time, some make no sense.

[Canton BU fan]

What bothers me is schools like Bradley have become a Juco for the big schools....show any talent above average and get plucked up for Big $$$$ and play on national TV...except it doesn't work out more often than naught.....but they still get the $$$$$

Get the short term money but risk the development as a player and the long term money potentially as a pro. It's as if players have no idea that Bradley and other similar programs have had a lot of pro players.

[Big Mike]

What bothers me is schools like Bradley have become a Juco for the big schools....show any talent above average and get plucked up for Big $$$$ and play on national TV...except it doesn't work out more often than naught.....but they still get the $$$$$