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Originally posted by Da Coach View PostLarry Bird
I've got a theory that if you give 100 percent all of the time, somehow things will work out in the end.
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Originally posted by carter View PostI hope Chris Reynolds can explain why we didn't get Wi as a home game.If this is the way the NIT is going to be run we should just not participate.Tired of mid majors getting screwed and no respect.
Unfortunately, refusing to participate only hurts Bradley. Unlike the CBI, Bradley does not pay to play in the NIT. In fact, they get paid thousands of dollars for each game played. A school like North Carolina can afford to decline the NIT, because they have a yearly athletic department revenue of over $120 million, and don't need the few thousand dollars paid out for each game. But that money could be big for a school like Bradley. Plus, maybe more important is the TV exposure and the chance to beat a team like Wisconsin.
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Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
He might have an inside perspective, however, Chris was on the NCAA Tournament committee, and not involved with the NIT selection committee.
Unfortunately, refusing to participate only hurts Bradley. Unlike the CBI, Bradley does not pay to play in the NIT. In fact, they get paid thousands of dollars for each game played. A school like North Carolina can afford to decline the NIT, because they have a yearly athletic department revenue of over $120 million, and don't need the few thousand dollars paid out for each game. But that money could be big for a school like Bradley. Plus, maybe more important is the TV exposure and the chance to beat a team like Wisconsin.Thinking is the hardest work, that is why so few people do it. -Henry Ford
Yeah...I've been in college for a while now and I'm pretty sure that awesomest is not a word. -Andrew E.
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Originally posted by carter View PostI hope Chris Reynolds can explain why we didn't get Wi as a home game.If this is the way the NIT is going to be run we should just not participate.Tired of mid majors getting screwed and no respect.
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Originally posted by Stryker View Post
Precisely. It is a nationally televised game on ESPN against a Big10 team. The disrespect stinks, but the exposure is better than any MVC game Bradley has played in this year.
The only basketball competition at that time is the second First Four game (Pitt vs. Miss. State) on TruTV, and a couple other NIT games- Villanova-Liberty on ESPN2, and Yale-Vanderbilt game on ESPNU.
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Originally posted by carter View PostI hope Chris Reynolds can explain why we didn't get Wi as a home game.If this is the way the NIT is going to be run we should just not participate.Tired of mid majors getting screwed and no respect.
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I'm a bit miffed we didn't get the home game, especially considering we had the higher NET. But all in all I'm happy with a primetime B1G game on ESPN. I think a lot of people especially in the Midwest will see the games that are on and want to see BU-Wisconsin. So it's a good opportunity and I hope our guys are up for it!BRADLEY BASKETBALL
-2 NCAA Title Games
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-4 NCAA Sweet 16s
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Originally posted by battlebasset View PostSeeing alot on this thread about disrespect. Maybe, maybe not. Win tonight and that argument carries alot more weight. Would like to see a repeat of 1982, when Versace was upset that Bradley didn't get an NCAA bid, and they win the whole thing. Nothing succeeds like success.
I think those are 2 vastly different things. I think it should be a reward for what you did in the regular season, but the committee always talks about they wanted to make sure they got the "best teams".
My feeling is if you are one of the "best teams" in college basketball, but had a 17-14 season, and were under .500 in conference play, surely you underachieved. I doubt that was the goal for a team that people consider one of college basketball "best" teams. Maybe you underachieved for several reasons (injury, bad coaching, turmoil,), but the fact still exists you shouldn't be REWARDED for that kind of record and effort.
We should be putting in teams that accomplished something, overachieved, and did something above and beyond to "earn" a right to play for a championship.
I would like for the NCAA to pick teams on that aspect, the reward for doing something, not "who can beat who"....that's beside the point.
That would be like me and Jordan in a free throw contest, and he makes 8 and I make 9, but they go ahead and move Jordan on because they think/know he's better than me, despite the fact I did more in the round than he did??? does that make sense? That seems to be the NCAA selection process.DUBL R 1
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Originally posted by Dubl R 1 View PostThat would be like me and Jordan in a free throw contest, and he makes 8 and I make 9, but they go ahead and move Jordan on because they think/know he's better than me, despite the fact I did more in the round than he did??? does that make sense? That seems to be the NCAA selection process.
Larry Bird
I've got a theory that if you give 100 percent all of the time, somehow things will work out in the end.
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Originally posted by Dubl R 1 View Post
My question is, what are NCAA and NIT invites SUPPOSED to be about? Forget the $$ money aspect...we all know that's what it IS about..but what does the NCAA officially say they are about. Is it a REWARD for season's success, or is it about getting the "best" teams to the tournaments?
I think those are 2 vastly different things. I think it should be a reward for what you did in the regular season, but the committee always talks about they wanted to make sure they got the "best teams".
My feeling is if you are one of the "best teams" in college basketball, but had a 17-14 season, and were under .500 in conference play, surely you underachieved. I doubt that was the goal for a team that people consider one of college basketball "best" teams. Maybe you underachieved for several reasons (injury, bad coaching, turmoil,), but the fact still exists you shouldn't be REWARDED for that kind of record and effort.
We should be putting in teams that accomplished something, overachieved, and did something above and beyond to "earn" a right to play for a championship.
I would like for the NCAA to pick teams on that aspect, the reward for doing something, not "who can beat who"....that's beside the point.
That would be like me and Jordan in a free throw contest, and he makes 8 and I make 9, but they go ahead and move Jordan on because they think/know he's better than me, despite the fact I did more in the round than he did??? does that make sense? That seems to be the NCAA selection process.
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Originally posted by Bball31 View Post
In my opinion, the post season conference tournaments, have made the regular season irrelevant in a manner similar to the NBA and NHL. If you’re not from a Power conference, all that matters is the post season conference tournament. I would like to see, but it won’t happen, post season conference tournaments eliminated and put all D1 teams in the NCAA Tournament. This would eliminate the non conference scheduling problems as the mid majors would have an opportunity to beat the big boys in the NCAA Tournament.
Lets be real here. The conference tournaments mean basically nothing for the power5 teams. The selection committee already knows 95% of the power teams that will get in before the conference tournament and barring an extreme run like Uconn in 2011 it won't change the comittee's thoughts on which power5 teams are in the ncaa tournament. The only thing it may effect is the seeding.
Then we get everyone else. In the MVC, the regular season conference champ has had a 38% chance of winning the conference tournament over the past 20 seasons. So more likely than not, unless the regular season champ has a great non-conference performance, the MVC is one bid league and the conference champ is left out of the ncaa tournament just like this year. Either way more often than not the best team in the league all year misses the tournament because of the conference tournament. This leads to fewer expected wins from the mid-major/low-major teams in the ncaa tournament since their best conference team is missing.
To me it makes more sense for the regular season champion to get the auto-bid. However, that makes the conference tournament meaningless and the regular season champ wouldn't participate most likely. So yeah. I don't know what the solution is here, but the current system just isn't great. Mid major conferences also have the ability to get two teams if they have a team with an at-large resume and that team doesn't get the auto-bid.Thinking is the hardest work, that is why so few people do it. -Henry Ford
Yeah...I've been in college for a while now and I'm pretty sure that awesomest is not a word. -Andrew E.
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