Final score: Bradley 79 Illinois State 61

[BUfan14]

In his last 10 games, Ville is 10-26 from three. That is 38.5%. Pretty good.
Here is his game-by-game numbers-
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...le-tahvanainen

When I add it up I get 10/30 (33%). Also 7/26 (27%) in his last 9 (Valpo game was 3/4 right before that). I also count 14/42 in all conference games (33%) this year.

I will say he is good at getting good looks, because he seems to get more wide open than anyone on the team. Not sure if that is his movement or his team's talent drawing attention or both. But when I feel frustrated with his shot, it is partly that, he seems WIDE open on many looks.

[Da Coach]

When I add it up I get 10/30 (33%). Also 7/26 (27%) in his last 9 (Valpo game was 3/4 right before that). I also count 14/42 in all conference games (33%) this year.

I will say he is good at getting good looks, because he seems to get more wide open than anyone on the team. Not sure if that is his movement or his team's talent drawing attention or both. But when I feel frustrated with his shot, it is partly that, he seems WIDE open on many looks.

You are right, I miscounted. Here are Ville's stats, and I highlighted his last 10 games.
He was 10-30 for 33%. Still not bad.

[Dub]

You are right, I miscounted. Here are Ville's stats, and I highlighted his last 10 games.
He was 10-30 for 33%. Still not bad.

Guys, many thanks for looking this up. I agree, the numbers aren’t as bad as I thought. In reality he hasn’t been shooting that much at all lately. He seems to do a heat check on himself and proceed accordingly on a given night. Since Ville’s primary role is as a sharpshooter, it can be disappointing (for him as well) when he isn’t effective on hitting open shots in a particular game.

That said, he was quite effective last night, and I would love nothing more than to see Ville finish the season on a tear from behind the arc. Shoot with confidence.

[Tommy]

For Ville it's definitely the wide open looks that don't go in and the porous defense that gets us down. Northern Iowa particularly went right at him on almost every play while he was in the game, so if he's not draining 3's, that really stands out.

That being said, if he is hitting at a decent clip like he did against ISU, nobody is complaining about his minutes. He's always been a streak shooter and we haven't done a great job of getting the ball right back to him after he makes one this year, and I do believe taking a shot every 15 minutes isn't conducive to his game. As we've said before, if we could get the freshman year Ville or the ISU game Ville to show up every day, we are just going to be that much tougher to beat.

I've always appreciated Ville's attitude and effort. He's one of the few guys on team that is vocal and I think he's heating up at just the right time for us. I'll miss him when he's gone.

[Stryker]

When I add it up I get 10/30 (33%). Also 7/26 (27%) in his last 9 (Valpo game was 3/4 right before that). I also count 14/42 in all conference games (33%) this year.

I will say he is good at getting good looks, because he seems to get more wide open than anyone on the team. Not sure if that is his movement or his team's talent drawing attention or both. But when I feel frustrated with his shot, it is partly that, he seems WIDE open on many looks.

This is what has been standing out to me. He was 4-19 (21%) over an 8 game stretch in conference play. Add the ISU game this week and he is 27% over 9 games. The Valpo game was his only good 3pt shooting game since December, and it seems his only good shooting nights are against bottom feeder teams. And a lot of his misses were shots where he had time to set and make sure his form was perfect. I wish him the best, but the team needs more than this from the 2 guard position to win the regular season.

[BUfan14]

I can't seem to find what the average 3 point shooting percentage in D1 is, though 33% sounds about right to me. So being an average shooter, who, to me, seems to get outstanding quality of looks (partial credit to him for being so open), when that is his main skill is not encouraging. Like I said before though, he has become a good rebounder and decent rim finisher (he tends to have to finish over or maneuver his arms around guys as he doesn't get past them), so he still is contributing something. He two point percentage is actually way better than his three one because of the aforementioned finishing at the rim. As I've said many times, he is a fine backup player at this stage, but if one of the top three guards gets hurt, I worry having him as a starter/major minute guy. He is not the elite shooter announcers still claim him to be though, he is merely average. Most of his makes, in my mind, tend to be against less athletic opponents as well. Get to 36%-38% and then we can talk about him being a good three point shooter. I view the elites sharpshooters as 40% plus. I don't mind at all though, having him as a nice bench piece with the amount of minutes he has now (just take him out when teams target him defensively and he is not making shots).

Edit: I did find this article and they mention sports reference, but I don't know how to find these charts on the actual website. It appears the average percentage was between 34%-35% consistently and then in 19-20 with the move it became between 33%-34%. I don't know after that.

https://www.si.com/college/unc/basketball/201920-ncaa-three-point-percentage

[egib52]

My point, bro.is a great player like Michael Jordan can have a bad shooting game also. You just dont top shooting as long as it is a good shot for you. Law of averages kicks in

Good shooters I agree with this, Ville isn't a good shooter. He really hasn't been a consistent shooter since his Freshman year. I would argue at best he is a streaky shooter. However, more importantly he is a defensive liability.

[egib52]

When I add it up I get 10/30 (33%). Also 7/26 (27%) in his last 9 (Valpo game was 3/4 right before that). I also count 14/42 in all conference games (33%) this year.

I will say he is good at getting good looks, because he seems to get more wide open than anyone on the team. Not sure if that is his movement or his team's talent drawing attention or both. But when I feel frustrated with his shot, it is partly that, he seems WIDE open on many looks.

Or that the other team doesn't respect his shot. They have to help off of someone.

[Tommy]

Or that the other team doesn't respect his shot. They have to help off of someone.

That's what I was thinking. He's given little reason to guard him closely this year, but let's hope the ISU game is a turnaround point for him!

[BUfan14]

That's what I was thinking. He's given little reason to guard him closely this year, but let's hope the ISU game is a turnaround point for him!

I mentioned a few times that his is shot is too flat to ever be consistent in my opinion, because he has to be perfect with it. I think at this point we just have to accept what he is. I don't expect it will change at this point. Anything extra he provides from what he currently does is gravy for this team.

He is an average three point shooter, good leader that keeps people upbeat and brings energy, plays hard, is limited athletically, can make some driving twos with creativity, hits free throws well, rebounds pretty well, but when he is not shooting well he is a defensive liability due to lack of athleticism. He is a fine second string player. Teams need those too, and he seems like a high character guy to have in that role. Just can't overexpose him, but that's been hard to do this year with limited guard depth and injuries. The only question really is who should play more, Davis or Ville. When Brian has tried to make Ville a starter or play starter minutes that's when I get frustrated more with his game. Deen, Hick, Zek are huge in terms of health for us as we end the year.