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  • #61
    One thing that bothers me, and I believe could be contributing to lower attendance, though not the major reason, is the ever-changing start times of games. Bradley has one or more home games this season scheduled at 1 pm, 2 pm, 3 pm, 4 pm, and 7 pm. Virtually every weekend game's start time is different that the previous one. And we had a weekday game (Akron on 12/22) start at 4 pm. What's with so many different start times?

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Old Coach View Post

      -15 NIT and NCAA bids in the last 19 seasons is a good start.
      -Averaging 23 win per season over the past 19 years.
      -Never finishing worst than 3rd in the last 19 seasons, including 17 1st and 2nd place finishes.

      And they parlayed all of that to move to a bigger basketball-centered conferece.
      This is the main thing I think. Everything else would follow if BU could just put together a few years where the team is competing for a conference championship down to the end of the season.

      I can't tell you how much harder it is to be excited about a team with 12 losses vs one with 7-8.

      My first goal every year is to see BU with less than 10 losses. Why? It means the team had a solid non-conference record and is near or at the top of the conference going into St. Louis. It is just hard to believe in a team with 10 losses or more. It is easy to tell the team is mediocre at best, and the only post season chance is basically NIT or a 3 game win streak in St. Louis.

      I like Wardle, but for whatever reason he hasn't been able to put together those 20+ win <10 loss teams. Also outside of Darrell Brown and Elijah Childs I really feel Wardle hasn't been able to secure a really top conference type of player.
      Thinking is the hardest work, that is why so few people do it. -Henry Ford

      Yeah...I've been in college for a while now and I'm pretty sure that awesomest is not a word. -Andrew E.

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      • #63
        For student attendance, I think Bradley is going to have to put up some money to drive attendance at home games.
        • First, put the bleachers back up next to the band and get rid of that silly Red Sea Club. Tables and seating can be behind the bleachers and mostly out of sight. Students need to have a section together and be more visible (not in random dark seats way off the court)
        • Rename the student section something other than Red Sea (not real specific to Bradley outside of our primary color and other student sections share the same name)...The Hilltop Havoc or something along those lines to tie it more to Bradley
        • Provide new t-shirts and other branded items for each student that signs up (perhaps with help from corporate sponsor?)
        • Keep offering the free tickets, free shuttles and free pizza. Consider having restaurants on campus alternate catering the student section food at games
        • Have student organization nights (Greek or otherwise) and contribute money towards their operating budget if they get X number of students to attend the game
        • Have team nights where other BU athletic programs (women's bball, soccer, volleyball, etc.) have their entire team attend the game (men's bball would return the favor at their games/matches)
        • Manage a drawing for free tuition for the semester or free books or free room and board (whatever is doable financially). You get your name added each time you attend a basketball game (men's or women's), volleyball match, soccer game, etc.
        • During winter break games, invite area high school seniors and juniors to get free tickets for the student section and provide them with a Bradley shirt and branded gear (bonus recruitment angle)
        • Add better halftime entertainment
        Maybe these things have been tried before and have not worked. Unfortunately there are a lot of entertainment options now...and money talks. Gameday experience talks too.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Stryker View Post

          This is the main thing I think. Everything else would follow if BU could just put together a few years where the team is competing for a conference championship down to the end of the season.

          I can't tell you how much harder it is to be excited about a team with 12 losses vs one with 7-8.

          My first goal every year is to see BU with less than 10 losses. Why? It means the team had a solid non-conference record and is near or at the top of the conference going into St. Louis. It is just hard to believe in a team with 10 losses or more. It is easy to tell the team is mediocre at best, and the only post season chance is basically NIT or a 3 game win streak in St. Louis.

          I like Wardle, but for whatever reason he hasn't been able to put together those 20+ win <10 loss teams. Also outside of Darrell Brown and Elijah Childs I really feel Wardle hasn't been able to secure a really top conference type of player.
          I think you could add Terry Roberts and Reink Mast to that list.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by BradleyBiz View Post
            For student attendance, I think Bradley is going to have to put up some money to drive attendance at home games.
            • First, put the bleachers back up next to the band and get rid of that silly Red Sea Club. Tables and seating can be behind the bleachers and mostly out of sight. Students need to have a section together and be more visible (not in random dark seats way off the court)
            • Rename the student section something other than Red Sea (not real specific to Bradley outside of our primary color and other student sections share the same name)...The Hilltop Havoc or something along those lines to tie it more to Bradley
            • Provide new t-shirts and other branded items for each student that signs up (perhaps with help from corporate sponsor?)
            • Keep offering the free tickets, free shuttles and free pizza. Consider having restaurants on campus alternate catering the student section food at games
            • Have student organization nights (Greek or otherwise) and contribute money towards their operating budget if they get X number of students to attend the game
            • Have team nights where other BU athletic programs (women's bball, soccer, volleyball, etc.) have their entire team attend the game (men's bball would return the favor at their games/matches)
            • Manage a drawing for free tuition for the semester or free books or free room and board (whatever is doable financially). You get your name added each time you attend a basketball game (men's or women's), volleyball match, soccer game, etc.
            • During winter break games, invite area high school seniors and juniors to get free tickets for the student section and provide them with a Bradley shirt and branded gear (bonus recruitment angle)
            • Add better halftime entertainment
            Maybe these things have been tried before and have not worked. Unfortunately there are a lot of entertainment options now...and money talks. Gameday experience talks too.
            Much of this has been done or is still currently being done. Some of it you can't do (I.e. bring outside catering to the Civic Center). However, one idea that you mention I think has a lot of merit. I think that they could do a book scholarship for every home game where the students are in attendance.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Old Coach View Post

              Much of this has been done or is still currently being done. Some of it you can't do (I.e. bring outside catering to the Civic Center). However, one idea that you mention I think has a lot of merit. I think that they could do a book scholarship for every home game where the students are in attendance.
              I like the idea of getting high school kids in the seats. Not only could it increase enrollment at Bradley potentially, a lot of the kids that graduate high school in Peoria don't leave town afterwords. Make them into life long fans...
              Thinking is the hardest work, that is why so few people do it. -Henry Ford

              Yeah...I've been in college for a while now and I'm pretty sure that awesomest is not a word. -Andrew E.

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              • #67
                Also, invite high school bands and dance teams to Bradley. They will bring parents and grandparents. Also, have some band members perform in the Civic Center lobby where tickets are collected or scanned to bring more energy to the crowd. Members of the Bradley Band could participate in the lobby, now that students are back on campus.

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                • #68
                  With only 6 games left, I doubt any of our great ideas get implemented this season.

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                    • #70
                      That promotion is for their women's team game on Feb. 4 against Valparaiso. The SIU women have an average attendance of 898 per game, but a promotion like that will draw a lot of students. I'll be surprised if even free tuition will draw 1000 students.

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                      • #71
                        The secret to increasing attendance is by putting a product on the floor that contends for the regular season championship year in year out. As the league loses the better teams, Bradley is still unable to move up in the standings, even by the process of elimination. I believe it is time to get players from Central Illinois and throughout the state to come to Bradley. From Chicago to Cairo you can throw a rock and hit a basketball player capable of playing, contributing and being a good Valley player on the hilltop. If we got two of these players a year, in four years half of the team would be from Illinois. We would be Illinois' college basketball team. There is enough talent in this state to get us winning big in the Valley and generate interest in the papers throughout the state. The people in Central Illinois know good basketball. You give the hard working people in this area a consistently good product, that wins home and away, and they will show up. It's time Bradley changes its recruiting philosophy.

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                        • #72
                          I've heard this argument before, that Bradley is missing out on talent from Central Illinois that could make them a better team. But I am not convinced. What Central Illinois players can you name that Bradley missed out on, that would have been a major improvement talent-wise over the players they've had?

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by JC View Post
                            I've heard this argument before, that Bradley is missing out on talent from Central Illinois that could make them a better team. But I am not convinced. What Central Illinois players can you name that Bradley missed out on, that would have been a major improvement talent-wise over the players they've had?
                            There are years you’re not going to get a kid out of Central Illinois, that’s why I included the entire state. But, I refuse to believe we can’t get a couple of good players a year out of Illinois. Especially with a coach that was a standout player in the Chicago suburbs. And let’s face it, the way we’ve be doing things hasn’t exactly been successful. Sure, winning a post season conference tournament is exciting, when it happens. That doesn’t generate sustainable interest like winning at home and away week after week during the regular season. Which I might add, makes your chances of winning the conference tournament better. I’ve followed Bradley basketball for parts of seven decades. Some of the smartest basketball fans in the country are right here in the Peoria area. If they are given a quality Bradley basketball team that wins home and away, that they can identify with and have a connection to on a consistent basis, they will show up.

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                            • #74
                              Using the 5,500 attendance figure as a break even point and the 3,000 figure as season ticket holders, that means we need to draw and additional 2,500 per game to break even. Most people that buy individual games tickets, more than likely don't come alone. They will bring a child, spouse, date, co-worker or a friend from their local pub. That means we are talking about selling 2,500 tickets to a group of around 1,250 people at a maximum. These folks will probably come one or two times a year. Most of these people are coming to see the basketball game and not a promotion. Winning a bunch of games at home is nice but winning a bunch of games at home and winning on the road more will cause these people to maybe come three of four times a season and possibly become season ticket holders. Promos are good but similar to a buy one get one free at a restaurant, they are only effective if you have a consistently good product. Getting around 2,500 individual game sales per home game would almost double attendance. We have an athletic director and head coach that are being paid well over $100,000 a year (much more than the average fan) to put a consistently good team on the floor, home and away, that can consistently compete for a league championship. Not third or fourth place and then hope to get hot at the Valley post season tournament. We aren't talking about winning the Big Ten or SEC. We are talking about the MVC.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Bball31 View Post
                                The secret to increasing attendance is by putting a product on the floor that contends for the regular season championship year in year out. As the league loses the better teams, Bradley is still unable to move up in the standings, even by the process of elimination. I believe it is time to get players from Central Illinois and throughout the state to come to Bradley. From Chicago to Cairo you can throw a rock and hit a basketball player capable of playing, contributing and being a good Valley player on the hilltop. If we got two of these players a year, in four years half of the team would be from Illinois. We would be Illinois' college basketball team. There is enough talent in this state to get us winning big in the Valley and generate interest in the papers throughout the state. The people in Central Illinois know good basketball. You give the hard working people in this area a consistently good product, that wins home and away, and they will show up. It's time Bradley changes its recruiting philosophy.
                                They have offered Cooper Koch, Lathan Sommerville, Brock Harding, Ty Pence, Cole Certa, Ethan Kizer (when it was thought that he was MVC caliber). I'm sure they will offer Matthew Zobrist when the time comes. Local kids have to want to come to Bradley too.

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