Conference realignment

[Da Coach]

Interesting. The article says:
OSU and WSU intend to rebuild the Pac-12 and will keep the conference's branding on their football fields next season despite operating as a two-team conference.

So, apparently, these moves to the Mountain West and the WCC are hoped to be temporary while the 2 remaining Pac-12 members, Oregon State and Washington State, try to recruit other schools and rebuild the Pac-12.

[Da Coach]

The Big Ten and SEC are forming an "advisory group" to address "significant challenges in college athletics." They referenced "recent court decisions, pending litigation, a patchwork of state laws."

They are apparently referring to issues like name, image and likeness, antitrust, transfers, etc., and appear to be signaling that they are considering leaving the NCAA and creating their own athletic association- https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...ourselves/amp/

This move is all about money, and how the big football schools like the SEC and Big Ten can make more money and keep more of it without sharing it with schools like Bradley.

[tomahawk chop]

The Big Ten and SEC are forming an "advisory group" to address "significant challenges in college athletics." They referenced "recent court decisions, pending litigation, a patchwork of state laws."

They are apparently referring to issues like name, image and likeness, antitrust, transfers, etc., and appear to be signaling that they are considering leaving the NCAA and creating their own athletic association- https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...ourselves/amp/

This move is all about money, and how the big football schools like the SEC and Big Ten can make more money and keep more of it without sharing it with schools like Bradley.

I knew this was coming. Simply put greed is the reason. If the big 10 and SEC want to do that then I say good riddance. I think their fans will get tired of them playing the same teams over and over again.Hopefully the other conferences will realize this is a bad idea for collegiate sports.

[ollienanyes]

The Big Ten and SEC are forming an "advisory group" to address "significant challenges in college athletics." They referenced "recent court decisions, pending litigation, a patchwork of state laws."

They are apparently referring to issues like name, image and likeness, antitrust, transfers, etc., and appear to be signaling that they are considering leaving the NCAA and creating their own athletic association- https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...ourselves/amp/

This move is all about money, and how the big football schools like the SEC and Big Ten can make more money and keep more of it without sharing it with schools like Bradley.

Former President Roberts warned that something like this was coming. And, given Bradley's money troubles ..I wonder how long university subsidies to athletics will continue, at least at this rate.

Something has to give.

If one accepts that the "power programs" (schools whose athletic departments make money; mainly the big time football powers) break away and forms their own exclusive league, there will have to be some sort of cost saving stratification in men's basketball; perhaps a formal "FCS" like structure for the mid majors like BU (a cut above D2 but less expensive than D1). Or maybe the NCAA rules can change to allow a university to be D1 in a few sports (or one sport) and D2-D3 in others

[basketball nut]

The Big Ten and SEC are forming an "advisory group" to address "significant challenges in college athletics." They referenced "recent court decisions, pending litigation, a patchwork of state laws."

They are apparently referring to issues like name, image and likeness, antitrust, transfers, etc., and appear to be signaling that they are considering leaving the NCAA and creating their own athletic association- https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...ourselves/amp/

This move is all about money, and how the big football schools like the SEC and Big Ten can make more money and keep more of it without sharing it with schools like Bradley.

I have said for a while that those 2 conferences will control major sports.
I can see each conference being 20 teams and basically each conference will have 2 10 team divisions. With the money they bring in they will control TV revenue and tournaments as we know them.
Very few teams outside of those 2 conferences or conferences that will join up with them will get in any major football or basketball tournaments.
We will see other, smaller, tournaments pop up for other schools in basketball and, possibly, football.

[yoda]

Rumors appearing about the next wave of conference raiding….
- ISU to the MAC
- Missouri State to C-USA
- Bradley, Drake, Belmont, or Murray State to the A-10

https://www.news-leader.com/story/sports/college/msu/2024/02/26/missouri-state-conference-usa-mvc-valley-realignment-the-athletic-cusa/72749100007/

[64NIT]

- Bradley, Drake, Belmont, or Murray State to the A-10

Where did you get this item? Thanks.

The MAC just added UMass yesterday as the 13th team beginning in the 25-26 season:

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/39605350/sources-umass-set-become-13th-member-mac-25-26-season

Isn't this a drop down from the A-10 just to get the football program, which is pretty bad anyway, into a conference?

Sources: There continues to be mutual interest between the MAC and Western Kentucky.

https://twitter.com/kylerowland/status/1762199702789816574?s=46&t=IQKJLqxPjwq9AvdgK-FTIg

Hearing the MAC would prefer to add 3 additional schools to maintain their pod-style scheduling. Western Kentucky, North Dakota State, and Illinois State are schools to keep an eye on.

https://twitter.com/blue_eagle7/status/1762252764711621038

[Stryker]

I know football is a pretty big deal at ISU but not sure what their motivations would be exactly to consider changing conferences at this point.

[Fetz86]

Isn't it kind of now or never for FCS teams to move if they are interested? Before the fee goes up to 5 million like July 1st.

[ollienanyes]

I know football is a pretty big deal at ISU but not sure what their motivations would be exactly to consider changing conferences at this point.

Given ISU's mediocrity within the football MVC, I don't see how moving up to the MAC would work, at least in football.

[Landof10thcoaches]

Midwest conference Bradley,Drake,ST.Louis, Chicago sister gene, Dayton, Belmont, DePaul, Butler, Evansville and Cleveland state.

[Da Coach]

Midwest conference Bradley,Drake,ST.Louis, Chicago sister gene, Dayton, Belmont, DePaul, Butler, Evansville and Cleveland state.

You've put a bunch of schools together to create a Midwest, basketball-only conference. But we already have such a conference, the Missouri Valley. And unfortunately, teams keep leaving because they can make a lot more money in bigger conferences. If those schools (other than the MVC schools- Drake, Bradley, Belmont, & Evansville) were interested in such a conference, they could just apply to join (or re-join in the case of St. Louis & Loyola) the MVC. But none of them ever have, because they are better off where they are.
A league like that makes some sense. But schools like DePaul (Big East), Dayton (A-10), St. Louis (A-10), Loyola (A-10), and Butler (Big East) have all come from conferences like that, and they left them because the money is so much better in the bigger conferences. Even a school like DePaul, which is a perennial last place team in the Big East and hasn't made the NCAA Tournament since they left the CUSA 20 years ago, is financially better off where they are than in a smaller conference.

[Landof10thcoaches]

Better off with no fan base and losing records? At some point they are going to be told to leave the Big East DePaul and Butler. Dead weight has to go somewhere. Valley is a great conference but football is the up and coming for schools. Bradley should make a move to A10 or make a conference with basketball rich history schools. We won’t have a choice soon for basketball just like football. March madness will be big schools. We will get a mid major championship game on a Sunday afternoon before the big boys. Don’t get caught watching the paint dry!!!!

[Mikovio]

DePaul is happy as a clam cashing their Big East media and NCAA pool checks I'm sure.

That account that suggested ISU to the MAC looks like some goof with 140 followers. Not that there may not be mutual interest. But ISU basketball would be sacrificed at the altar of FBS football and 20+ more scholarships to play bad teams in empty gyms long bus rides away in Ohio, Michigan, and Buffalo.

The MVC is currently the #9 NET conference which at least gives teams the opportunity to earn at large bids. Drake did it in 2021 and Indiana State was in prime position before they started pissing down their leg. Individual teams still gotta take it, but at least it's there.

[bradleyfan124]

The Bid Ten should join the MVC. After all they use our players to build up some of their teams now.