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Conference realignment

Interesting. The article says:
OSU and WSU intend to rebuild the Pac-12 and will keep the conference's branding on their football fields next season despite operating as a two-team conference.

So, apparently, these moves to the Mountain West and the WCC are hoped to be temporary while the 2 remaining Pac-12 members, Oregon State and Washington State, try to recruit other schools and rebuild the Pac-12.
 
The Big Ten and SEC are forming an "advisory group" to address "significant challenges in college athletics." They referenced "recent court decisions, pending litigation, a patchwork of state laws."

They are apparently referring to issues like name, image and likeness, antitrust, transfers, etc., and appear to be signaling that they are considering leaving the NCAA and creating their own athletic association- https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...a-figure-it-out-or-well-go-off-ourselves/amp/

This move is all about money, and how the big football schools like the SEC and Big Ten can make more money and keep more of it without sharing it with schools like Bradley.
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Da Coach said:
The Big Ten and SEC are forming an "advisory group" to address "significant challenges in college athletics." They referenced "recent court decisions, pending litigation, a patchwork of state laws."

They are apparently referring to issues like name, image and likeness, antitrust, transfers, etc., and appear to be signaling that they are considering leaving the NCAA and creating their own athletic association- https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...a-figure-it-out-or-well-go-off-ourselves/amp/

This move is all about money, and how the big football schools like the SEC and Big Ten can make more money and keep more of it without sharing it with schools like Bradley.
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I knew this was coming. Simply put greed is the reason. If the big 10 and SEC want to do that then I say good riddance. I think their fans will get tired of them playing the same teams over and over again.Hopefully the other conferences will realize this is a bad idea for collegiate sports.
 
Da Coach said:
The Big Ten and SEC are forming an "advisory group" to address "significant challenges in college athletics." They referenced "recent court decisions, pending litigation, a patchwork of state laws."

They are apparently referring to issues like name, image and likeness, antitrust, transfers, etc., and appear to be signaling that they are considering leaving the NCAA and creating their own athletic association- https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...a-figure-it-out-or-well-go-off-ourselves/amp/

This move is all about money, and how the big football schools like the SEC and Big Ten can make more money and keep more of it without sharing it with schools like Bradley.
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Former President Roberts warned that something like this was coming. And, given Bradley's money troubles ..I wonder how long university subsidies to athletics will continue, at least at this rate.

Something has to give.

If one accepts that the "power programs" (schools whose athletic departments make money; mainly the big time football powers) break away and forms their own exclusive league, there will have to be some sort of cost saving stratification in men's basketball; perhaps a formal "FCS" like structure for the mid majors like BU (a cut above D2 but less expensive than D1). Or maybe the NCAA rules can change to allow a university to be D1 in a few sports (or one sport) and D2-D3 in others
 
Da Coach said:
The Big Ten and SEC are forming an "advisory group" to address "significant challenges in college athletics." They referenced "recent court decisions, pending litigation, a patchwork of state laws."

They are apparently referring to issues like name, image and likeness, antitrust, transfers, etc., and appear to be signaling that they are considering leaving the NCAA and creating their own athletic association- https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...a-figure-it-out-or-well-go-off-ourselves/amp/

This move is all about money, and how the big football schools like the SEC and Big Ten can make more money and keep more of it without sharing it with schools like Bradley.
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I have said for a while that those 2 conferences will control major sports.
I can see each conference being 20 teams and basically each conference will have 2 10 team divisions. With the money they bring in they will control TV revenue and tournaments as we know them.
Very few teams outside of those 2 conferences or conferences that will join up with them will get in any major football or basketball tournaments.
We will see other, smaller, tournaments pop up for other schools in basketball and, possibly, football.
 
yoda said:
- Bradley, Drake, Belmont, or Murray State to the A-10
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Where did you get this item? Thanks.

The MAC just added UMass yesterday as the 13th team beginning in the 25-26 season:

https://www.espn.com/college-sports...umass-set-become-13th-member-mac-25-26-season

Isn't this a drop down from the A-10 just to get the football program, which is pretty bad anyway, into a conference?

Sources: There continues to be mutual interest between the MAC and Western Kentucky.
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https://twitter.com/kylerowland/status/1762199702789816574?s=46&t=IQKJLqxPjwq9AvdgK-FTIg

Hearing the MAC would prefer to add 3 additional schools to maintain their pod-style scheduling. Western Kentucky, North Dakota State, and Illinois State are schools to keep an eye on.
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https://twitter.com/blue_eagle7/status/1762252764711621038​
 
I know football is a pretty big deal at ISU but not sure what their motivations would be exactly to consider changing conferences at this point.
 
Isn't it kind of now or never for FCS teams to move if they are interested? Before the fee goes up to 5 million like July 1st.
 
Stryker said:
I know football is a pretty big deal at ISU but not sure what their motivations would be exactly to consider changing conferences at this point.
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Given ISU's mediocrity within the football MVC, I don't see how moving up to the MAC would work, at least in football.
 
Landof10thcoaches said:
Midwest conference Bradley,Drake,ST.Louis, Chicago sister gene, Dayton, Belmont, DePaul, Butler, Evansville and Cleveland state.
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You've put a bunch of schools together to create a Midwest, basketball-only conference. But we already have such a conference, the Missouri Valley. And unfortunately, teams keep leaving because they can make a lot more money in bigger conferences. If those schools (other than the MVC schools- Drake, Bradley, Belmont, & Evansville) were interested in such a conference, they could just apply to join (or re-join in the case of St. Louis & Loyola) the MVC. But none of them ever have, because they are better off where they are.
A league like that makes some sense. But schools like DePaul (Big East), Dayton (A-10), St. Louis (A-10), Loyola (A-10), and Butler (Big East) have all come from conferences like that, and they left them because the money is so much better in the bigger conferences. Even a school like DePaul, which is a perennial last place team in the Big East and hasn't made the NCAA Tournament since they left the CUSA 20 years ago, is financially better off where they are than in a smaller conference.
 
Better off with no fan base and losing records? At some point they are going to be told to leave the Big East DePaul and Butler. Dead weight has to go somewhere. Valley is a great conference but football is the up and coming for schools. Bradley should make a move to A10 or make a conference with basketball rich history schools. We won’t have a choice soon for basketball just like football. March madness will be big schools. We will get a mid major championship game on a Sunday afternoon before the big boys. Don’t get caught watching the paint dry!!!!
 
DePaul is happy as a clam cashing their Big East media and NCAA pool checks I'm sure.

That account that suggested ISU to the MAC looks like some goof with 140 followers. Not that there may not be mutual interest. But ISU basketball would be sacrificed at the altar of FBS football and 20+ more scholarships to play bad teams in empty gyms long bus rides away in Ohio, Michigan, and Buffalo.

The MVC is currently the #9 NET conference which at least gives teams the opportunity to earn at large bids. Drake did it in 2021 and Indiana State was in prime position before they started pissing down their leg. Individual teams still gotta take it, but at least it's there.
 
Landof10thcoaches said:
Better off with no fan base and losing records? At some point they are going to be told to leave the Big East DePaul and Butler. Dead weight has to go somewhere. Valley is a great conference but football is the up and coming for schools. Bradley should make a move to A10 or make a conference with basketball rich history schools. We won’t have a choice soon for basketball just like football. March madness will be big schools. We will get a mid major championship game on a Sunday afternoon before the big boys. Don’t get caught watching the paint dry!!!!
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Yes, but Bradley will always be a mid-major, whether it is with the MVC or the A-10. Your scenario with the Big conferences dominating college basketball and March Madness is already here and it will get worse for the mid-majors. Whether Bradley is in the MVC or A-10, it probably won't make any difference.
And, there are many reasons why no new conferences, especially mid-majors, have formed in many years, so that's not going to happen. Does anyone want to see Bradley in the A-10? I'm not sure the A-10 would want BU, nor would it be a good decision for Bradley. The MVC is a viable basketball conference, and IMO, Bradley needs to stay put, and work to make the MVC better.

By the way, has anyone noticed what happened in the Mountain West with basketball this year? The Mountain West has been similar to the MVC in many ways, other than the fact they have legitimate football. They have usually gotten just 1 or 2 NCAAT bids. But this year, they have 6 teams in the top 40 NET, and could get 5 or 6 teams in the NCAA Tournament. Some are saying they "cracked the code" of the NET formula. That is what was said about the Missouri Valley and the RPI in 2006 when they got 4 teams (should have been 5) in the NCAA Tournament. The MVC should be able get more than 1 team in the tournament. The big differences are that the MWC teams are all bigger, better funded state schools (except AFA which is why they can usually be found at the bottom) and that when they added teams, they added high quality teams like San Diego State, Boise State, Nevada, and Utah State.

Mountain West NET-
18 San Diego State
25 New Mexico
26 Boise State
29 Colorado State
35 Utah State
39 Nevada
80 UNLV
170 Wyoming
216 Fresno State
240 San Jose State
272 Air Force
 
Possible conference realignment... A group of 5 mid-major football conferences (referred to the G5- American Athletic Conference, Sun Belt, Mountain West, Mid-American Conference and Conference USA- are discussing forming their own alignment, separate from the FCS and FBS.
It's not clear how such a realignment for football would affect basketball or other sports​ - https://bleacherreport.com/articles...ussing-realignment-separate-playoffs-from-cfp

Administrators from the Group of Five conferences—the American Athletic Conference, Sun Belt, Mountain West, Mid-American Conference and Conference USA—have discussed a potential "G5-only postseason playoff or even wide-scale G5 realignment with the involvement of private equity."
 
64NIT said:
I just came across this article and looks like USC and UCLA to the B1G is a done deal:

The Big Ten Conference has voted to accept both USC and crosstown rival UCLA as full members of the conference effective August 2, 2024, enabling both schools to remain in the Pac-12 Conference for the duration of the Pac-12's existing media rights agreements.

https://usctrojans.com/news/2022/6/30/usc-to-make-historic-move-to-big-ten-conference-in-2024.aspx
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UCLA is in the Big Ten now, and, what a surprise! UCLA head coach Mick Cronin is bitching about all the travel his team has to endure - https://x.com/TheFieldOf68/status/1880494401220420002

UCLA is 12-6, but they are only 3-4 in the Big Ten. Their Big Ten losses were at Nebraska, Maryland, and Rutgers, and they also lost at home to Michigan. Cronin blames it on all the travel, which they knew would come with joining the Big Ten.
But maybe it could have something to do with the fact they played 11 non-conference games, and not a single one of them was a true road game.
 
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