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  • #61
    Schools themselves were not supposed to be involved in NIL money, and coaches and school officials were not supposed to be using NIL money as a recruiting tool. But after a miserable start to the season, University of Minnesota head football coach is pleading with Minnesota fans to pony up more NIL money so he can keep his best players and recruit better players.
    PJ Fleck went out of his way this week to plead Minnesota Gophers fans, alumni and boosters to donate more NIL money or risk losing Darius Taylor, others.


    "Fleck... used the opportunity to beg and plead anyone listening — University of Minnesota alumni, boosters and all Gopher football fans who care about winning — to contact and send money to the U of M’s official Name Image and Likeness Collective, Dinkytown Athletes, ASAP"....
    “So, if we wanna keep players, all these guys we have, they won’t be here next year [if we don’t get more NIL money to pay them]. Just making sure everybody understands. [That] our fans [understand]. [Our best players] won’t be here. So we’ll be a Triple-A ball club for somebody else. That is the reality and the truth of the situation. So please, contact Dinkytown Athletes…”​​

    This is a team from the 2nd best NCAA football conference, and with a university athletic department budget of $120 million each year, bitching about not being able to compete unless fans open their wallets, grab all their money, and send it to them "ASAP" so they can afford to buy better players. Wow.
    This is exactly what the NCAA has said NIL was not intended to be about.
    And one other thought... maybe they should get the NIL people to change that name "Dinkytown Athletes".

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    • #62
      ”This is a team from the 2nd best NCAA football conference, and with a university athletic department budget of $120 million each year, bitching about not being able to compete unless fans open their wallets, grab all their money, and send it to them "ASAP" so they can afford to buy better players. Wow.”
      this guy would have made an awesome televangelist.

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      • #63
        Looks like Indiana State has a car dealer using NIL to give cars to the Sycamore players-
        Robbie Avila
        Isaiah Swope


        Do we have any car dealers in Peoria who will do this for the Bradley guys?

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        • #64
          Towel Boys Podcast got creative with some merchandise on the hotbrave.com site: https://hotbrave.com/products/towel-boys-podcast-bikini

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          • #65
            The NCAA is reportedly about to undertake an unprecedented action to sanction a school for NIL violations. With the proliferation of NIL money being thrown at athletes in the last 2½ years, the NCAA only had a couple rules- the awarding of NIL money had to come from outside sources and not the schools themselves and the awarding of NIL money could not be used by the schools as a recruiting tool.

            However, everyone knows that NIL money is being used widely as a recruiting incentive. But for the last 2½ years of the NIL experiment, the NCAA has completely ignored this.
            Now the NCAA is finally preparing to sanction a football school, Florida State, for illegal NIL-related violations- https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-nca...002044975.html

            Ironic that they are going after Florida State, and not any of the other top football programs, who are almost certainly guilty of the same infractions, if not more. Florida State was the football program excluded by the College Football Playoff committee, despite being undefeated in their regular season, and then they criticized the process. Coincidence? Probably not.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
              Ironic that they are going after Florida State, and not any of the other top football programs, who are almost certainly guilty of the same infractions, if not more. Florida State was the football program excluded by the College Football Playoff committee, despite being undefeated in their regular season, and then they criticized the process. Coincidence? Probably not.
              If they're going to penalize FSU then they had better take a look at Texas A&M. I can't imagine how many violations they'd find occurred while Jimbo was there.
              The True Gentleman is the man whose conduct proceeds from good will and an acute sense of propriety, and whose self-control is equal to all emergencies... - John Walter Wayland

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                The NCAA is reportedly about to undertake an unprecedented action to sanction a school for NIL violations. With the proliferation of NIL money being thrown at athletes in the last 2½ years, the NCAA only had a couple rules- the awarding of NIL money had to come from outside sources and not the schools themselves and the awarding of NIL money could not be used by the schools as a recruiting tool.

                However, everyone knows that NIL money is being used widely as a recruiting incentive. But for the last 2½ years of the NIL experiment, the NCAA has completely ignored this.
                Now the NCAA is finally preparing to sanction a football school, Florida State, for illegal NIL-related violations- https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-nca...002044975.html

                Ironic that they are going after Florida State, and not any of the other top football programs, who are almost certainly guilty of the same infractions, if not more. Florida State was the football program excluded by the College Football Playoff committee, despite being undefeated in their regular season, and then they criticized the process. Coincidence? Probably not.
                This feels like the jack booted thugs kicking FSU while they are down to make sure they stay down and tow the line. No more anti-NCAA football playoff comments and no "out of the box" ideas for them.
                Thinking is the hardest work, that is why so few people do it. -Henry Ford

                Yeah...I've been in college for a while now and I'm pretty sure that awesomest is not a word. -Andrew E.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Stryker View Post

                  This feels like the jack booted thugs kicking FSU while they are down to make sure they stay down .....
                  LOL, Stryker...
                  the ways of the NCAA are patently obvious... someone noticed Florida State was getting just a little bit TOO GOOD
                  for their liking and were winning just a few too many games.
                  Reminiscent of how Bradley came from nowhere in 1985 to go 32-3 in 1985-86.. only to prompt a massive IMMEDIATE
                  investigation from NCAA and a whole bunch of sanctions for literally nothing except telling the NCAA field agent to f/o.
                  Recall the phrase that explained the infraction & reason for sanctions- *"head coach failed to comport himself in the proper manner"*.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by yoda View Post

                    LOL, Stryker...
                    the ways of the NCAA are patently obvious... someone noticed Florida State was getting just a little bit TOO GOOD
                    for their liking and were winning just a few too many games.
                    Reminiscent of how Bradley came from nowhere in 1985 to go 32-3 in 1985-86.. only to prompt a massive IMMEDIATE
                    investigation from NCAA and a whole bunch of sanctions for literally nothing except telling the NCAA field agent to f/o.
                    Recall the phrase that explained the infraction & reason for sanctions- *"head coach failed to comport himself in the proper manner"*.
                    Also aren't they the only school allowed to keep their Indian as a mascot

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                    • #70
                      The NCAA is now investigating Tennessee for using NIL inducements as a recruiting tool in their football program, and Tennessee is countering with a lawsuit of their own, alleging antitrust violation- https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...-investigation

                      Eventually, lawsuits like this will clarify how NIL money can be used, since the NCAA hasn't really done a very good job of setting up the rules.
                      And, I'm surprised it's taken this long for legal cases to arise over NIL and the NCAA's attempt to crack down on its use as a recruiting inducement.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                        The NCAA is now investigating Tennessee for using NIL inducements as a recruiting tool in their football program, and Tennessee is countering with a lawsuit of their own, alleging antitrust violation- https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...-investigation

                        Eventually, lawsuits like this will clarify how NIL money can be used, since the NCAA hasn't really done a very good job of setting up the rules.
                        And, I'm surprised it's taken this long for legal cases to arise over NIL and the NCAA's attempt to crack down on its use as a recruiting inducement.
                        Ultimately we will probably get to a system where the schools just pay the players directly. All of this is ruining college sports.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                          The NCAA is now investigating Tennessee for using NIL inducements as a recruiting tool in their football program, and Tennessee is countering with a lawsuit of their own, alleging antitrust violation- https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...-investigation

                          Eventually, lawsuits like this will clarify how NIL money can be used, since the NCAA hasn't really done a very good job of setting up the rules.
                          And, I'm surprised it's taken this long for legal cases to arise over NIL and the NCAA's attempt to crack down on its use as a recruiting inducement.
                          Rick Pitino says NCAA enforcement arm 'of no value anymore'
                          With legal disputes escalating over the use of name, image and likeness compensation in the recruitment of college athletes, Hall of Fame basketball coach Rick Pitino believes it's time for the NCAA to stand down when it comes to policing member schools.

                          "It's a very difficult time in college basketball, because it's free agency," the first-year St. John's coach said Saturday. "And now I think what's going to happen is, they're going to say everybody can transfer, and then if they don't like it, they're going to take 'em to court.

                          "So I think the NCAA enforcement staff just should be disbanded. It's a joke. Not because I dislike them. But they're of no value anymore. Because just, Tennessee now will take 'em to court, Virginia will take 'em to court."

                          The attorneys general of Tennessee and Virginia filed an antitrust lawsuit against the NCAA on Wednesday that challenged its ban on the use of NIL compensation in recruiting and in response to the association's investigation of the University of Tennessee.

                          ...

                          After leaving Iona in March 2023 to take the St. John's job, Pitino brought in 12 new players for this season, including 10 transfers. But he said the current college landscape involving NIL and the transfer portal makes it "very tough" to build a consistent culture at a high-level program.

                          "I think so many football coaches are getting out, so many basketball coaches are getting out, because of this culture," Pitino said. "It's tough to build a program. You've got to really innovate, get creative and understand these rules right now -- or lack of rules."
                          St. John's coach Rick Pitino says he believes the NCAA's enforcement arm is "of no value anymore" and should be "disbanded."


                          If a high-profile coach like Rick Pitino can say these things, just think what a lower-level coach is thinking.




                          My first BU hoops game was on 12/30/1963. My dad took me to watch the Braves defeat Arizona 67-59. He helped me get Coach Orsborn's autograph before the game.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by 64NIT View Post

                            Rick Pitino says NCAA enforcement arm 'of no value anymore'

                            St. John's coach Rick Pitino says he believes the NCAA's enforcement arm is "of no value anymore" and should be "disbanded."


                            If a high-profile coach like Rick Pitino can say these things, just think what a lower-level coach is thinking.




                            Yes, I saw this last night on ESPN. I agree that it is too late for the NCAA to enforce anything now. The attorneys/agents are the real winners. It’s always about power and money.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by 64NIT View Post

                              Rick Pitino says NCAA enforcement arm 'of no value anymore'

                              St. John's coach Rick Pitino says he believes the NCAA's enforcement arm is "of no value anymore" and should be "disbanded."


                              If a high-profile coach like Rick Pitino can say these things, just think what a lower-level coach is thinking.




                              This is true, there really are no rules as far as transfers . These schools are definitely breaking NIL rules because players are not suppose to get money or promised it before they start attending their school. Funny that when the big schools start losing players because they were illegally recruited to transfer all sh-t hits the fan. This whole thing is a mess. This is what happens when government gets involved.

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                              • #75
                                NCAA president Charlie Baker against additional transfer limits
                                NCAA president Charlie Baker said he's not in favor of rules or federal laws that would place new limits on the way college athletes transfer between schools.

                                I guess Baker envisions players transferring after quarters, halves, time-outs, or calls that went against them that they didn't like. Why no limits on transfers? When will this madness stop?
                                My first BU hoops game was on 12/30/1963. My dad took me to watch the Braves defeat Arizona 67-59. He helped me get Coach Orsborn's autograph before the game.

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