MVC players transferring

[Tommy]

Free market works if you give it time. Let the big boys run up the price for the best recruits with each other. Half of them will not turn out as good as they were expecting anyway.

Mid-majors have always been at a disadvantage and that hasn't changed. My biggest concern is that I'll be rooting for an entirely new team every year, but this being the first year, I suspect it'll be the worst, and so far at least, we've only lost 2 players to the transfer portal. Now that mid-majors know this is how the rules work, they'll adjust their recruiting and hopefully find kids that are interested in sticking around. In a world of 8 billion people, there should be enough talent to go around and if the Tampa Bay Rays taught us anything it's that smart decisions can help you be successful without spending big time money. Let's just hope we've got some savvy guys making those decisions at BU.

[bradleyfan124]

Free market works if you give it time. Let the big boys run up the price for the best recruits with each other. Half of them will not turn out as good as they were expecting anyway.

Mid-majors have always been at a disadvantage and that hasn't changed. My biggest concern is that I'll be rooting for an entirely new team every year, but this being the first year, I suspect it'll be the worst, and so far at least, we've only lost 2 players to the transfer portal. Now that mid-majors know this is how the rules work, they'll adjust their recruiting and hopefully find kids that are interested in sticking around. In a world of 8 billion people, there should be enough talent to go around and if the Tampa Bay Rays taught us anything it's that smart decisions can help you be successful without spending big time money. Let's just hope we've got some savvy guys making those decisions at BU.

Amen!!

[Da Coach]

A couple updates-
Isaac Haney, Missouri State freshman who entered the portal, signs with Northwestern State in Louisiana. he becomes the 4th Missouri State player to transfer there. Former MSU associate head coach Corey Gipson is now the head coach there.
Iyen Enaruna, Evansville transfer, signs with D2 Fort Hays State.
Sekou Dembele, SIU transfer, commits to Fort Lewis College, a D2 school in Durango, Colorado
Illinois State freshman Elijah Williams and freshman walk-on guard Julian Samuels have entered the transfer portal.


Here are all the MVC players transferring so far-
Belmont-
Will Richard- freshman guard - starter 12.1 pg, 6.0 rpg- transferring to Florida
JaCobi Wood- sophomore guard - top reserve, 6.3 ppg, 2.1 rpg
Bradley-
Jayson Kent- sophomore- transferring to Indiana State
Terry Roberts- junior- transferring to Georgia
Drake-
Jordan Kwiecinski- redshirt freshman- transferring to Eckerd
Devin Dahlke- sophomore
Evansville-
Troy Boynton- redshirt freshman- transferring to South Carolina as walk-on
Jawaun Newton- senior- transferring to Southern Illinois
Emmette Page- redshirt junior
Blake Sisley- freshman- transferring to Wright State
Iyen Enaruna- senior- transferring to Fort Hays State (D2)
Illinois State-
Antonio Reeves- junior- transferring to Kentucky
Alston Andrews- sophomore
Abdou Ndiaye- junior
Josiah Strong- senior
Jayden Johnson- sophomore walk-on
Howard Fleming, Jr.- sophomore- transferring to Winthrop
Mark Freeman- junior- transferring to Morehead State
Emon Washington- redshirt-sophomore
Sy Chatman- junior- transferring to Buffalo
Julian Samuels- freshman walk-on
Elijah Williams- freshman
Indiana State-
Tyreke Key- 5th year senior- transferring to Tennessee
Nick Hittle- sophomore- transferring to Southern Indiana
Quimari Peterson- freshman- transferring to John A. Logan Community College
Simon Wilbar- sophomore
Dearon Tucker- junior
Micah Thomas- sophomore- transferring to Nicholls State
Sam Mervis- sophomore
Missouri State-
Keaton Hervey- senior- transferring to Oakland
Demarcus Sharp- senior- transferring to Northwestern State
Ja'Monta Black- junior- transferring to Northwestern State
Melvyn Ebonkoli- sophomore
Skylar Wicks- redshirt freshman
Elijah Bridgers- sophomore
Lu'Cye Patterson- sophomore
Isaac Haney- freshman- transferring to Northwestern State
Isiaih Mosley- junior-transferring to Missouri
Murray State-
K.J. Williams- junior
Jackson Sivills- freshman- transferring to Wofford
Damiree "DJ" Burns-sophomore- withdrew and will return to Murray State
Justice Hill- sophomore- transferring to LSU
Elijah Farr- junior
Trae Hannibal- sophomore- transferring to LSU
DaQuan Smith- redshirt sophomore- transferring to Radford
Matt Smith- redshirt sophomore
Corneilous Williams- transferring to LSU
Nicholas McMullen- sophomore- transferred to UNC-Asheville
Dionte Bostick- freshman- transferring to Cal State Northridge
UNI-
Noah Carter- sophomore- transferring to Missouri
A.J. Green- junior- remaining in NBA draft, and will forego his college eligibility
Antwan Kimmons- sophomore- transferring to Concordia St. Paul
SIU-
Sekou Dembele- junior- transferring to Fort Lewis College (D2)
Kyler Filewich- sophomore- transferring to Wofford
Steven Verplancken- junior
UIC-
Zion Griffin- junior- transferring to Tennessee State
Jalen Johnson- junior
Marcus Larsson- junior
Valparaiso-
Keyondre Young- freshman- transferred to Triton College
Sheldon Edwards- sophomore- transferring to Loyola
Trey Woodyard- freshman

[egib52]

I dont know but there should be some kind of cap on what they make. The Supreme Court said the NCAA has to allow them to make money off there likeness but the NCAA should be able to put a cap on what they make per endeavor. What is the value of each endeavor? Example if an athlete signs autographs in front of a store, Is $50 for 30minutes reasonable or is $500,000 reasonable. There needs to be some kind of regulation of this

Exactly the Supreme Court says they have to allow them to make money. So where would the authority to put a cap on it come from? That would be like saying that the government should be allowed to regulate business' income.

[bradleyfan124]

Exactly the Supreme Court says they have to allow them to make money. So where would the authority to put a cap on it come from? That would be like saying that the government should be allowed to regulate business' income.

I wish I could give you an answer. I dont know how the fallout will be but right now it does not look pretty. I know one limitation that the athletes will have is the IRS. They will be expected to pay a certain percent of their earnings in taxes. Unless they take it out upfront they are going to be liable for taxes. I have heard some the athletes are already starting to hear from the IRS. Also I agree with what Tommy said earlier. They were doing this before just under the table. Now with this out in the open this may work to their disadvantage because of the IRS and pitting one Power 5 school against another. Thier may be some backlash from that

[egib52]

I wish I could give you an answer. I dont know how the fallout will be but right now it does not look pretty. I know one limitation that the athletes will have is the IRS. They will be expected to pay a certain percent of their earnings in taxes. Unless they take it out upfront they are going to be liable for taxes. I have heard some the athletes are already starting to hear from the IRS. Also I agree with what Tommy said earlier. They were doing this before just under the table. Now with this out in the open this may work to their disadvantage because of the IRS and pitting one Power 5 school against another. Thier may be some backlash from that

Oh I agree with the IRS issue. I think once these things are public, we are going to see everyone from athletes to handlers getting charged. The government always will get theirs.

[houstonbrave]

Another one Jawaun Newton from Evansville to SIU

[Da Coach]

Another one Jawaun Newton from Evansville to SIU

I was just posting my thoughts on this transfer of Jawaun Newton from Evansville to SIU (in a different thread)-
https://www.bradleyfans.com/forum/sp...467#post503467

I wonder if Newton will be happy at SIU and how much playing time he'll get? He started every game and played 32 minutes per game this past season at Evansville. But he might not get that much playing time with SIU. They are pretty guard-heavy, and have a couple guys who like to take a lot of shots (Marcus Domask & Lance Jones were both in the top 7 in FG attempts/game in the MVC), plus other guards who get a lot of playing time (Ben Harvey, Trent Brown, Dalton Banks), plus their other transfer Xavier Johnson, who averaged over 30 min/game this past season at George Mason. That might be why their best 3-point shooter, Verplancken, transferred out.
But at least Newton will be playing for a better team.

[Tommy]

I wonder if Newton will be happy at SIU and how much playing time he'll get? He started every game and played 32 minutes per game this past season at Evansville.

That's a good point and one that is sure to have an effect on this whole transfer mess moving forward. I do believe this being the first year will be the worst and there will be a good many players that regret their decision.

[Da Coach]

Duke staff has spoken with and are interested in former UNI guard A.J. Green, and trying to arrange a visit
https://twitter.com/BlueDevils/statu...87280084541440...

A.J. Green is visiting Duke today.
https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/stat...31516936314883

Under Coach K, Duke virtually always got the recruits they wanted. Will that trend continue under Jon Scheyer?
My guess is yes.

[basketball nut]

Some of these schools will find that the big donations might start to dry up as those donors will start figuring out ways to give the money to the athlete themselves. Example: I own a business and I have been giving a million dollars to the athletic department of the school so now I give $250,000 to the athletic dept and, basically, hire 5 kids to make advertisements for me and pay them $150,000 each and, guess what, that school is now considered a power house. Can happen at the mid major level also. Look at all the money Wichita brought in from donors and had very good teams. Then moved into a conference with a bigger tv revenue.

[molar50]

Some of these schools will find that the big donations might start to dry up as those donors will start figuring out ways to give the money to the athlete themselves. Example: I own a business and I have been giving a million dollars to the athletic department of the school so now I give $250,000 to the athletic dept and, basically, hire 5 kids to make advertisements for me and pay them $150,000 each and, guess what, that school is now considered a power house. Can happen at the mid major level also. Look at all the money Wichita brought in from donors and had very good teams. Then moved into a conference with a bigger tv revenue.

Yeah, all we need is get someone like the Koch Brothers to help us recruit those 5 kids.

[Da Coach]

MVC players transferring so far-

Illinois State-
Alston Andrews- sophomore

Illinois State's Alston Andrews has decided to withdraw from the portal and return to ISU for his junior season. He hasn't played much in his 2 years as a Redbird, and played fewer minutes as a sophomore than as a freshman.

https://twitter.com/Pg_Benson/status/1528073930594033664

Stats- https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...alston-andrews
Bio- https://goredbirds.com/sports/mens-b...-andrews/10334

[Da Coach]

Bad news for Belmont... 2 of their best players, Grayson Murphy and Nick Muszynski, who both had entered the NBA Draft but retained the option to withdraw and return to college, have both announced they will pursue professional careers and won't return to school next season to use their additional year of eligibility. Both are longshots to be drafted.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/sta...85905865605121

Grayson Murphy was their 1st team All-Ohio Valley Conference point guard (he's made the 1st team All-OVC all 4 seasons he's been at Belmont). He started every game, and averaged 7.7 ppg, and team-leading 6.1 rpg and 5.8 assists per game. Nick Muszynski was also a 1st team All-OVC selection (he's made the 1st team All-OVC the last 3 seasons). He is a 6'11" center who started every game for Belmont, averaged 15.8 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 2.5 apg, and he shot 56% from the field.
Combined with graduation losses, it appears Belmont will return only 1 of their top 7 scorers from last year.

[Da Coach]

Isiaih Mosley, last year's MVC scoring leader from Missouri State, has committed to Missouri-
https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/stat...24208660516865

He joins UNI's Noah Carter and former Bradley guard Sean East on next year's Missouri team playing for new head coach Dennis Gates.
One other interesting MVC/Bradley connection- Former Bradley DBO (from 2016-2019) Ryan Sharbaugh was hired by Dennis Gates, and is serving as Special Assistant to the Head Coach. Sharbaugh has spent the last 3 seasons as an assistant coach at Cleveland State under Dennis Gates.
https://mutigers.com/sports/mens-bas...n-sharbaugh/96