4 braves suspended- update (2/18)- Ja'Shon Henry reinstated

[LittleBrave]

Will be interesting to see how the 4 guys respond to their suspension.
Did it motivate them or did Wardle cause a rift in trust?
We’ll see this week guys!

Has there ever been a disciplinary move of this magnitude for BU in the last say 30 yrs (involving such key upperclassmen)?

This hit us hard, as fans especially, but let’s hope and pray it was a move for the better - whether we defend our Valley crown ultimately or (most likely) not.

[Dub]

I predict they'll rally together and overcome this. Clearly, to be on this team you have to operate on Wardle's terms. I think the guys understand that "Wardle's terms" gets the job done and gives you a chance to bring home hardware and play in the Tournament. Let's see what happens.

[basketball nut]

You are right, and I agree with everything you said, jimmy. But on the other hand, nobody is required to support a program that appears to have more disciplinary problems each year, even involving juniors, seniors, and the team-leaders. Especially when fans have been subjected to repeated lectures by a staff that tells us how they have only the highest character athletes possible. Then they refuse to address or answer any questions about these team violations issues or be open with the fans who have been so supportive.
Again, for a program that boasts so much about their character, these problems keep repeating themselves. More, it seems, than any other MVC program. Something doesn't fit here.

Have I missed something? Coach you mentioned lots of disciplinary problems this year. Can you elaborate on that? Other then this weekend I can only remenber one other incident at the most.. Are you saying that some of the players missing games were more then what has been stated? (East, McAdoo, Henry, maybe others)

[lb071964]

None of the names you mentioned were suspended nor did they miss games due to disciplinary issues.

[Da Coach]

Have I missed something? Coach you mentioned lots of disciplinary problems this year. Can you elaborate on that? Other then this weekend I can only remenber one other incident at the most.. Are you saying that some of the players missing games were more then what has been stated? (East, McAdoo, Henry, maybe others)

You are misinterpreting my post. I did not say there were previous suspensions this year.
My point was that Bradley just had 4 players serve 2 game suspensions each. And they are all juniors and seniors. And, these are team leaders, not new players in the program trying to adjust to the tight discipline.
That is a total of 8 games of player suspensions to key players and team-leaders. Can anyone name another MVC team that has had that many players suspended for that many games this year? Or any year? Especially involving their team-leaders?
And my other point was that suspensions for violations of team standards aren't unique to this season.

[basketball nut]

You are misinterpreting my post. I did not say there were previous suspensions this year.
My point was that Bradley just had 4 players serve 2 game suspensions each. And they are all juniors and seniors. And, these are team leaders, not new players in the program trying to adjust to the tight discipline.
That is a total of 8 games of player suspensions to key players and team-leaders. Can anyone name another MVC team that has had that many players suspended for that many games this year? Or any year? Especially involving their team-leaders?
And my other point was that suspensions for violations of team standards aren't unique to this season.

I understand what you are saying and I am just as disappointed as anyone on this board and in our community as to whatever happened. I'm hoping that this is a lesson that all of the other players will learn from. Do I blame coach for this? I really have no idea since we have no idea as to what happened. I do blame th4 players though since they have had several years in the system to know what is acceptable and what isn't.
I, guess, my real hope is that this incident brings the team together and helps make for a strong end of the season run. No going out in the first round and actually doing what they were predicted to do make a strong statement that they were better then what they showed this year. After the Valpo game I really thought they were coming together and playing as a team. Until then this team lacked hustle and determination. They stood around on rebounds while other teams just flat out outhustled them. That seemed to change at Valpo. I also felt that even though they were outmanned this past weekend I was happy to see the young guys truly hustling for loose balls.
Just my reflections on a lot of things going on with this team. Maybe the suspensions was to send a message to the whole team, only time will tell.

[LittleBrave]

Maybe the suspensions was to send a message to the whole team, only time will tell.

That's what I've come to conclude, Nut. Could be the guys did nothing "against team rules", but maybe hadn't been showing leadership with the other guys that Wardle expected before a weekend that was very critical to our seeding. We may never know.

[Chibearsfan10125]

Per Dave Eminian on Twitter, the four Braves are still suspended as of today and “as of today” will not play on Thursday.

[Da Coach]

https://twitter.com/icetimecleve/status/1361710992288321539

https://twitter.com/icetimecleve/status/1361711488336019459

[Tommy]

OK, I'm with Coach on this one. This is ridiculous and they are sucking the fun out of the season for fans who dump a lot of money on BU basketball, and if they are going to be out this long, we as fans should be able to know the reason.

Unbelievable that we're going to be in a play in game. What a disappointing season.

[Da Coach]

I had hoped I was done posting on this subject, but it is clear now something very serious is wrong with this program, and the fans and donors are being treated like dopes. This was said to be a suspension for "this weekend's series against Missouri State".
Now we are told the suspensions are still in place and apparently could be indefinite.
There is some serious damage being done to this program and to Bradley's "brand".
We have become a laughingstock among the other teams in the conference, and have gone from being picked 3rd in the conference, to headed toward last place. And yet I am sure fans will be getting their yearly letter in a couple months asking for more donations.
I have already heard from several long-time fans and big-money donors who tell me they are fed up with this situation, and fed up with being treated like fools, and they are done with their blind loyalties to Bradley. This latest development is likely to drive more fans to that point. And who could blame them. Is that what Bradley wants?

[Dub]

“As of today they are not playing Thursday.”

.....So you're telling me there's a chance.

Sounds like whatever they did wrong has a requirement for penance, apology, or etc.
Like maybe they'll play if they complete whatever is required.
My money is on them playing by Thursday.

[Bradley3342]

I agree with everything that Tommy and DaCoach have said here. Should have been competing for a title this year and instead the air has been sucked out of this season and I think the fans if nothing else deserve to a know a little about what is going on with this program now. As for you Dub you seem to always lighten things up a bit! My money is on them playing too on Thursday. Time is definitely running out and I think if we can get these 4 guy’s back and possibly Boya we can still make a run in StLouis! Go Braves!

[BUBraves2006]

The plot thickens on an already murky mess. This again leads to more possibilities of speculation as to what is going on here. But, since that's all they want to let us do, here we go down that path again. A punitive punishment for whatever their violation of team standards seems relatively cut and dry in terms of "doing the time" so to speak for a mistake, whether it is justified or not. But, regardless of having to sit out, the guys were visibly supporting their teammates during both of the games in Missouri. So, what's the deal? Unless they did something new wrong, why wasn't the reinstatement immediate?

Not to beat the same drum, but it is worth bringing up in light of this new cryptic statement. Who is deciding that they aren't playing as of now? Is it the coach or someone else making this call? I mean, it just doesn't jive with me that Wardle himself is just bringing down the hammer on these guys just himself, especially in a time where its so difficult to be in college with all the restrictions and rules. We already had one player leave the team for a personal issue for a while this season. He knows that while his players are adults, they are still young adults trying to figure out who they are as people, especially in such trying times.

I guess where I fall with it until I have more information is if it were one guy, it seems like it might be a "me" (player) problem, but if its four guys, it's more of a "you" problem (coaching/others).

[Bradley3342]

The plot thickens on an already murky mess. This again leads to more possibilities of speculation as to what is going on here. But, since that's all they want to let us do, here we go down that path again. A punitive punishment for whatever their violation of team standards seems relatively cut and dry in terms of "doing the time" so to speak for a mistake, whether it is justified or not. But, regardless of having to sit out, the guys were visibly supporting their teammates during both of the games in Missouri. So, what's the deal? Unless they did something new wrong, why wasn't the reinstatement immediate?

Not to beat the same drum, but it is worth bringing up in light of this new cryptic statement. Who is deciding that they aren't playing as of now? Is it the coach or someone else making this call? I mean, it just doesn't jive with me that Wardle himself is just bringing down the hammer on these guys just himself, especially in a time where its so difficult to be in college with all the restrictions and rules. We already had one player leave the team for a personal issue for a while this season. He knows that while his players are adults, they are still young adults trying to figure out who they are as people, especially in such trying times.

I guess where I fall with it until I have more information is if it were one guy, it seems like it might be a "me" (player) problem, but if its four guys, it's more of a "you" problem (coaching/others).

Hope Bradley can clarify for all of us fans and finally put this behind us and move on.