Wichita State's head coach Gregg Marshall being investigated for abusive conduct

[Da Coach]

This is nothing new. Gregg Marshall has a long and well known history of abusive behavior, both verbal and physical. It is a wonder it has taken this long for people at Wichita State to pull their heads out of the sand, admit it, and deal with it. But then winning has always been the only real priority there.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ged-misconduct
https://www.si.com/college/2020/10/0...ion-misconduct

I am probably not alone in that I have personally witnessed some pretty vile and threatening verbal attacks by Marshall directed at his players, officials, and others, including his own athletic director and team personnel.
However, I expect this so-called self "investigation" to whitewash the whole thing. They have been looking the other way and making excuses for him for at least a decade.

[Da Coach]

The Wichita State fans are already out on the social media pages and message boards attacking the writer of the article and the people Marshall abused and making excuses for him. We've seen all this before with Bobby Knight.
There are some in this Twitter thread and a lot more elsewhere & on message boards-
https://twitter.com/TheAthleticCBB/s...76927172595714

[GoBU!]

Shocking news

[Dub]

Poor man’s Bobby Knight. The behavior we’ve all seen of Greg Marshall and his lovely wife make me glad they aren’t around us anymore.

[dawgs123]

Just a matter of time!!!

[Da Coach]

Column that I recommend reading by Pete Thamel, a long time Sports Illustrated college sports writer, and now with Yahoo Sports-
After enabling and ignoring Gregg Marshall's antics, Wichita State deserves this mess
https://sports.yahoo.com/wichita-sta...215337831.html

And another good article by Gary Parrish of CBSSports-
https://www.cbssports.com/college-ba...line-of-abuse/

Though I am glad to see national sportswriters shine light on Marshall's abusive and sociopathic behavior, I can't help but wonder why it's taken so long. This didn't just start. Marshall has always been this way, though winning and a bigger salary seems to have made it worse. I used to sit behind the visitor's bench at Carver Arena in the first few years that Marshall took over at Wichita State (I now sit behind the home bench). And I have sat near the Wichita State bench a few times in St. Louis at past MVC Tournament games. There have been many times that I have witnessed the types of behaviors that are now being described, and there are plenty of other fans who have, too. And if he behaves like that in public, I suspect he is even more abusive in private practices. Now we have multiple former players coming forward with stories about him, which is a very difficult thing for players to do.

Here is a video of the incident described in the article where Gregg Marshall went berserk and was kicked out of a lousy exhibition game in Canada. It appears that if he had not been restrained by his assistants, his players, and numerous other personnel at the game, he would have physically attacked the officials.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeoUitsdq98

[bigjimmy]

I don’t know whether to laugh my ass off because of how much trouble Marshall should be in or feel sorry for all of the ex players and coaches that he had abused over the years. Saw another article from Jeff Goodman at a site called watchstadium.com that is shocking, no pun intended, in how detailed his abuse was and that there were only 2 out of 36 former coaches and players, center Shaq Morris and guard Ty Taylor, would go on the record about what happened. I had always admired his teams for their talent and for how they played. Multiple players said it wasn’t because of his coaching but it was their mutual hatred of him that bonded them into the teams that I enjoyed watching. He should be fired but until the Koch brothers decide they no longer want him as their head coach he’ll be growling on their sidelines.

[Tommy]

They say you can’t judge a book by it’s cover, but sometimes a turd looks like a turd.

[Da Coach]

New article in the Wichita Eagle-
Marshall’s support doesn’t extend to former WSU players from two seasons in question

https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/wichita-state/article246410290.html

[Tommy]

Wow! That article is pretty damning. I don't know how he's going to get out of this one. Sounds like most of the guys that have played for him certainly don't have any love for him.

[Da Coach]

I think firing him would be the best choice for Wichita State. These allegations are extremely serious and any one of them crosses the line and is grounds for dismissal. And there are numerous such allegations that appear to be corroborated. This kind of stuff never goes away, and will haunt them if he stays there. It could affect his ability to recruit. That being said, I still wouldn't be surprised if they give him a slap on the wrist, and allow him to stay. The fact that he was not suspended, as would be the normal action for a university to take while the investigation is being done, and he is continuing to get paid tells me that the Wichita State administration is afraid to do anything that might make him mad.

As I mentioned above, I witnessed an incident a few years ago when the Wichita State AD walked down to the bench to calm Marshall down during an MVC Tournament game when he got heated at officials. When Marshall saw him coming, he screamed at the AD to "get the f**k out of here". Instead of taking charge, the AD turned around and scurried away like a dog with its tail between its legs. It showed clearly who the big shot at Wichita State was.

[BUfan17]

I think firing him would be the best choice for Wichita State. These allegations are extremely serious and any one of them crosses the line and is grounds for dismissal. And there are numerous such allegations that appear to be corroborated. This kind of stuff never goes away, and will haunt them if he stays there. It could affect his ability to recruit. That being said, I still wouldn't be surprised if they give him a slap on the wrist, and allow him to stay. The fact that he was not suspended, as would be the normal action for a university to take while the investigation is being done, and he is continuing to get paid tells me that the Wichita State administration is afraid to do anything that might make him mad.

I agree, he has done too much for their program, they would have gotten rid of him sooner if they actually cared about his behavior. It isn't like this is a big secret, we have all seen how he has acted. I think they will make him to go to "anger management' training or something and call it good. I think the damage is done now that it is national news though. A coach should know better than to physically assault members of his own team. Who would want to go play for a guy like that? I think having all those scholarship players transfer out speaks for itself.

[bigjimmy]

Very interesting article from the home town newspaper. Wouldn't have expected any different from Marshall or that Wichita will let him coach during the investigation. I'll be curious to see how long this investigation lasts and if any more players, especially if it's Van Fleet, Baker and Shamet, will go public. Gotta believe this will be a big distraction this season. I'm sure Marshall will answer each question about it with grace and dignity.

[bradleyfan124]

I think firing him would be the best choice for Wichita State. These allegations are extremely serious and any one of them crosses the line and is grounds for dismissal. And there are numerous such allegations that appear to be corroborated. This kind of stuff never goes away, and will haunt them if he stays there. It could affect his ability to recruit. That being said, I still wouldn't be surprised if they give him a slap on the wrist, and allow him to stay. The fact that he was not suspended, as would be the normal action for a university to take while the investigation is being done, and he is continuing to get paid tells me that the Wichita State administration is afraid to do anything that might make him mad.

As I mentioned above, I witnessed an incident a few years ago when the Wichita State AD walked down to the bench to calm Marshall down during an MVC Tournament game when he got heated at officials. When Marshall saw him coming, he screamed at the AD to "get the f**k out of here". Instead of taking charge, the AD turned around and scurried away like a dog with its tail between its legs. It showed clearly who the big shot at Wichita State was.

I believe he will have a hard time recruiting. The opposing coaches will use it against him as well as prospective players learning about it

[Tommy]

I believe he will have a hard time recruiting. The opposing coaches will use it against him as well as prospective players learning about it

I think as long as they keeping paying well, they'll find players that are more than willing to come.