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  • #16
    Originally posted by algotrader View Post

    Georgia falsified their data

    Florida pushing coroners to not report/misreport deaths

    The data from those two states needs to be marked with a huge asterisk.
    I hesitate to argue something that is not really relevant here, and which is politicized far too much, especially by the media.
    But in the cases you cite, even after correcting for the reported tabulation errors by the non-political Georgia Department of Public Health, the new case count in Georgia is still down since the state removed most of the restrictions-
    https://www.ajc.com/news/coronavirus...BSVSNQDDAuZxH/
    This is despite a huge increase in the number of tests being done which would have been expected to add significantly to the new case count.
    It's hard to deny that the relaxing of restrictions has not resulted in the hysterical predictions by some in the media, like this laughable article-
    Georgia’s Experiment in Human Sacrifice
    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...ndemic/610882/

    Experts Predict Sharp Rise In Georgia COVID-19 Deaths Following Eased Restrictions
    https://www.gpbnews.org/post/experts...d-restrictions


    And with all due respect, the article about the Florida count relates only to the death count, which is not what I referred to. My post referred to the new case count since lifting restrictions. Even if it what the article alleges were true, by their own admission it would have only increased the death count by no more than 10% which still would have left the death count way down (see stats link below), and would have had zero effect on the daily new case count.
    However, there is evidence that some states have inflated the number of deaths due to coronavirus.
    Several states have revised their death counts down after they were scrutinized-
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/colorado-...us-death-count
    And a number of other states have admitted counting deaths which were never tested or officially documented to be due to the coronavirus-
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/n...us-deaths.html
    So it seems reasonable for the Florida Department of Health (also a non-political organization) to review those numbers before making them public.

    Nobody expects the case numbers to disappear, but the official statistics show that the new case count in Florida has not increased (it is actually down) despite the state lifting restrictions, and despite a huge increase in testing, which should have resulted in a big increase in new cases.
    Even the liberal website Politico is mocking the alarmist, hysterical claims by media of "a post-apocalyptic hellscape of coronavirus infection and cadavers stacked like cordwood" because Florida opened up-
    https://www.politico.com/newsletters...for-now-489225

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    • #17
      Originally posted by algotrader View Post

      Georgia falsified their data

      Florida pushing coroners to not report/misreport deaths

      The data from those two states needs to be marked with a huge asterisk.
      The same claims have been made to point toward increased numbers in others states, so that argument could be made for just about any reported statistic given. If you have a problem with one, you should have a problem with all of them. Politics works from both ends.
      Larry Bird
      I've got a theory that if you give 100 percent all of the time, somehow things will work out in the end.

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      • #18
        The NCAA just issued a specific re-start date for athletic activities- June 1st-
        https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources...tarting-june-1

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        • #19
          I wonder how voluntary it will be. I would think that such things as weightlifting and shooting drills could at least be done.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by LongTimeFan View Post
            I wonder how voluntary it will be. I would think that such things as weightlifting and shooting drills could at least be done.
            The key sentence in tha NCAA release is this:

            Voluntary on-campus athletics activity must be initiated by the student-athlete. Coaches may not be present unless a sport-specific safety exception allows it, and activity cannot be directed by a coach or reported back to a coach.

            There were no stipulations mention about what specific activities were allowed, so I presume the athletes can do whatever they want, as long as it is the athlete that initiates the activity, and the coaches cannot direct, receive reports, or observe them.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by LongTimeFan View Post
              I wonder how voluntary it will be. I would think that such things as weightlifting and shooting drills could at least be done.
              If possible they should move outside. The risk seems to mostly be indoors via droplet contamination. The humidity in the air during the summer combined with good old fashioned wind will keep this thing from spreading. The problem is the fall when everyone moves indoors and the lack of humidity allows droplets to linger.

              Just curious, do you guys know anyone with a positive antibody result (from a peer reviewed accurate test)? What was their illness like?

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              • #22
                I know several people who have had antibody tests because they had a fairly intense respiratory illness back in February and March, but they all tested negative. It was probably the flu or something else.

                Here are the stats for the Peoria tri-county area, and they are relatively low compared with Chicago (stats are updated daily)-

                There are fewer than 250 positive cases in all 3 counties, and that is despite much wider testing which was predicted by some to detect a lot more cases. Only a small number of those were hospitalized. And unfortunately, there have been 6 deaths in Peoria County, 3 in Tazewell, and 2 in Woodford.

                From studies done in a couple different parts of the county, there are probably more people who have had mild forms of the Covid-19 disease, and may have antibodies and don't realize it. But overall, this area, and nearly all of downstate Illinois have had very few number of cases. There are even a couple Illinois counties that have had zero cases, and many more than have had fewer than 5-
                Illinois stats by county (hold cursor over each county for total cases)


                Yet even those counties with no cases are subjected to the extreme restrictions put in place by the governor.

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