4 Valley games left. Anything decided?

[Da Coach]

Here is Matt Hackman's updated projection-

https://twitter.com/mjhackman/status/1231949551751352320

[pauly616]

Sure looks like we are heading to a 3-6 game against MoState at Arch Madness. I really wish we had won at Valpo last Saturday, getting into the 2 seed would have been much better for the tournament. MoState looked tough to beat when we played them last week. We did not match up against their size very well. The only way we get the 2 seed now would be for Loyola to lose out and we would have to win out as their NET ranking is better than ours which would give them the tie advantage.

[egib52]

Sure looks like we are heading to a 3-6 game against MoState at Arch Madness. I really wish we had won at Valpo last Saturday, getting into the 2 seed would have been much better for the tournament. MoState looked tough to beat when we played them last week. We did not match up against their size very well. The only way we get the 2 seed now would be for Loyola to lose out and we would have to win out as their NET ranking is better than ours which would give them the tie advantage.

I don't like this scenario, as that I am sure the refs in StL will let MoSt be even more physical. However, in looking at everything unless Drake gets a big win on the road Wed, I am sure even with us winning out we can't pass Loyola in NET. Especially since KSU keeps losing.

[Go_Braves]

egib, great points. The NCAA doesn't care about mid-majors, it only cares about money. Until the mid-majors come together and do something to fight back, this will always be an issue. It's very frustrating.

Tommy, Egib52, Da Coach, Big Jimmy, Patrick O'Brien - All excellent points as to how the Power 5 or Power 6 conferences are the real controllers of the NCAA. And as I pointed out earlier - I hope that the following never happens. Refer to the link. I totally agree with you Tommy.

https://watchstadium.com/could-a-one...ll-02-20-2020/

That would be death to mid-majors. I really dislike the NCAA, and this rule would just add to the reasons why.

[Go_Braves]

Sure looks like we are heading to a 3-6 game against MoState at Arch Madness. I really wish we had won at Valpo last Saturday, getting into the 2 seed would have been much better for the tournament. MoState looked tough to beat when we played them last week. We did not match up against their size very well. The only way we get the 2 seed now would be for Loyola to lose out and we would have to win out as their NET ranking is better than ours which would give them the tie advantage.

If Bradley faces Missouri State in their first MVC Tournament game Friday March 6th - All that coach Dana Ford would have to post are the scores of the last 3 games against Bradley. March 8th, 2019 - 61 - 58 *** January 15th 91 - 78 *** February 19th 83 - 79 OT No other incentive necessary. Gaige Prim won't make the same mistakes as the last game - and Tuilo Da Silva will be licking his chops.

[Chibearsfan10125]

The only way we get the 2 seed now would be for Loyola to lose out and we would have to win out as their NET ranking is better than ours which would give them the tie advantage.

This isn’t true. We can also be the two seed if we win out and finish in a 3 way tie for second with Loyola and SIU. We win the round robin tiebreaker by way of our sweep of SIU. We’d be 3-1 against the group, Loyola would be 2-2 and Southern would be 1-3. For this to play out we would need us and Southern to win out.

[egib52]

This isn’t true. We can also be the two seed if we win out and finish in a 3 way tie for second with Loyola and SIU. We win the round robin tiebreaker by way of our sweep of SIU. We’d be 3-1 against the group, Loyola would be 2-2 and Southern would be 1-3. For this to play out we would need us and Southern to win out.

Good call, that is correct. I totally forgot about that tie breaker.

[Tommy]

Tommy, Egib52, Da Coach, Big Jimmy, Patrick O'Brien - All excellent points as to how the Power 5 or Power 6 conferences are the real controllers of the NCAA. And as I pointed out earlier - I hope that the following never happens. Refer to the link. I totally agree with you Tommy.

https://watchstadium.com/could-a-one...ll-02-20-2020/

What a load of crap and that article just makes my blood boil. If this happens, and they make it sound like it's a foregone conclusion, I hope the mid-majors revolt and just form up their own league. Tired of them constantly changing rules to benefit the big schools.

[bigjimmy]

Obviously spots #2 through #8 are still to be decided with many combinations still available. Missouri State playing at Valpo on Tuesday and ISU Blue playing at SIU on Wednesday will have huge implications for the road teams as they would be 2-0 against their opposition. There aren't many teams between #3 and #8 that have 2-0 records against each other right now. BU is 2-0 against SIU and MSU, ISU Blue is 2-0 against MSU and SIU is 2-0 against Drake are the only ones. If we beat ISU Red we would be assured of no worse than 4th. If we lose to them and Loyola that's where things would get very interesting so hopefully we make things very uninteresting in that regard.

[Tommy]

Sounds like everyone pretty much thinks MSU will be the bad draw for whoever gets them, and it will be interesting to see how things play out and where they land. If they do end up in the play in game, the #1 or #2 seed will likely see them, and point being, at this point, anything can still happen and man does it make it exciting.

I am really excited for Arch Madness.

Btw, Braves82, was nice hanging out with you at the Valpo game. Next time let's get a win, though, right?

[bigjimmy]

1 game to go and still some things to be decided. UNI has clinched the 1 seed, ISU Red will be the 9 seed, Evansville will be the 10 seed and Drake will be one of their opponents in the play in game. Even if we win on Saturday I'm pretty sure that Loyola will be the 2 seed as there just seem to be too many teams for us to climb over. If both ISU Blue beats Valpo and SIU wins at MSU the Sycamores will be at least the 4 seed as they won their season series and could get up to the 3 seed if we lose. If Valpo beats the Sycamores and SIU loses then Valpo would be the 4 seed, ISU Blue would be the 5 seed and SIU would be the 6 seed because of the 3 way round robin tie breaker Valpo would be 3-1, ISU Blue would be 2-2 and SIU would be 1-3. If Valpo loses and Missouri State wins the Bears would probably be the 6 seed. I do think Evansville has a real chance to get their 1st Valley win at home against ISU Red.

[egib52]

1 game to go and still some things to be decided. UNI has clinched the 1 seed, ISU Red will be the 9 seed, Evansville will be the 10 seed and Drake will be one of their opponents in the play in game. Even if we win on Saturday I'm pretty sure that Loyola will be the 2 seed as there just seem to be too many teams for us to climb over. If both ISU Blue beats Valpo and SIU wins at MSU the Sycamores will be at least the 4 seed as they won their season series and could get up to the 3 seed if we lose. If Valpo beats the Sycamores and SIU loses then Valpo would be the 4 seed, ISU Blue would be the 5 seed and SIU would be the 6 seed because of the 3 way round robin tie breaker Valpo would be 3-1, ISU Blue would be 2-2 and SIU would be 1-3. If Valpo loses and Missouri State wins the Bears would probably be the 6 seed. I do think Evansville has a real chance to get their 1st Valley win at home against ISU Red.

I agree, there looks to be no way now for us to get the 2. Because even if we win, we are at 107 in NET and Loyola is 98, and neither of us moved after last night. I would love for a big comfortable win for the Braves on Saturday just for the sake of momentum. Especially since our last four have been rough: Blew a big lead but held on at SIU, needed OT to beat MoSt, lost at Valpo, and needed OT to beat ISU. I am not minimizing the wins, because they are wins. However, for the sake of confidence it would be nice to runaway and hide on senior day.