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    About the only thing decided so far in the Mo Valley race is ISU Red will finish 9th and Evansville will finish last. Other than that? Will AJ Green's broken nose play a part in how UNI finishes their season? Does he play at ISU Blue in their next game? Some guys have no issues with wearing a mask and some guys it affects them so we'll have to see. Here's the schedule for the last 4 games:

    UNI 11-3: at ISU Blue, Home to SIU & Evansville, Finish at Drake

    Loyola 10-4: Home to ISU Red, at Missouri State, Home to Drake and Finish at Bradley

    Bradley 9-5: Home to Missouri State, at Valpo & ISU Red and finish at home against Loyola

    SIU 9-5: Home to Evansville, at UNI, Home to ISU Blue and Finish at Missouri State

    Valpo 7-7: At Drake, Home to Bradley & Missouri State and finish at ISU Blue

    Missouri State 7-7: At Bradley, Home to Loyola, at Valpo and finish at Home against SIU

    Drake 7-7: Home to Valpo, at ISU Red & Loyola and finish at Home with UNI

    ISU Blue 7-7: Home to UNI, at Evansville & SIU and finish at Home against Valpo

    As long as we finish 2-2 we'll be no worse than 4th. If we finish 4-0 I think we'll finish 2nd. Obviously the race for 1st through 8th will go down to the last game.


  • #2
    Have we actually seen that AJ broke his nose ? Sorry if I missed it but have not seen it definitively. Given the play I would not be surprised but have not seen that it was broken.
    houstonbrave

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    • #3


      This article says he broke his nose.

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      • #4
        Watching the game it appeared he dove for a loose ball and when he did a Loyola player dove on top of him and smashed his face even harder down on the floor. Looked pretty bad. Anyone have any video of it?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bradley3342 View Post
          Watching the game it appeared he dove for a loose ball and when he did a Loyola player dove on top of him and smashed his face even harder down on the floor. Looked pretty bad. Anyone have any video of it?
          Go the the provided ESPN web site and then fast forward to the 1:21:35 mark in this video as shown in this picture. That is Green laying on the court just after the injury .https://www.espn.com/watch/?id=ee6e1...6-172df42b82c5

          UNI Green injured Loyola game 2-15-20.JPG

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          • #6
            Originally posted by braves16 View Post
            https://wcfcourier.com/sports/colleg...e9fff4ba3.html

            This article says he broke his nose.
            I wonder if Green is going to wear a face mask? I read that broken noses take up to 3 weeks to completely heal. The 3rd week mark is the MVC Tournament weekend.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bigjimmy View Post
              About the only thing decided so far in the Mo Valley race is ISU Red will finish 9th and Evansville will finish last. Other than that? Will AJ Green's broken nose play a part in how UNI finishes their season? Does he play at ISU Blue in their next game? Some guys have no issues with wearing a mask and some guys it affects them so we'll have to see. Here's the schedule for the last 4 games:

              UNI 11-3: at ISU Blue, Home to SIU & Evansville, Finish at Drake

              Loyola 10-4: Home to ISU Red, at Missouri State, Home to Drake and Finish at Bradley

              Bradley 9-5: Home to Missouri State, at Valpo & ISU Red and finish at home against Loyola

              SIU 9-5: Home to Evansville, at UNI, Home to ISU Blue and Finish at Missouri State

              Valpo 7-7: At Drake, Home to Bradley & Missouri State and finish at ISU Blue

              Missouri State 7-7: At Bradley, Home to Loyola, at Valpo and finish at Home against SIU

              Drake 7-7: Home to Valpo, at ISU Red & Loyola and finish at Home with UNI

              ISU Blue 7-7: Home to UNI, at Evansville & SIU and finish at Home against Valpo

              As long as we finish 2-2 we'll be no worse than 4th. If we finish 4-0 I think we'll finish 2nd. Obviously the race for 1st through 8th will go down to the last game.
              I read that in January 2019 the Missouri Valley is going to use each teams NET score to decide any tie breakers. So even if Bradley beats Loyola at home for their last regular season game and ties Loyola for second in the MVC standings - Bradley may likely still end up third in the MVC Tournament bracket. And if both Loyola and Bradley end 2nd and 3rd in the MVC standings (or visa versa) - chances are very good that these 2 teams will face each other in their second game Saturday round. 2019 MVC Tournament "Deja Vu".

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              • #8
                Here is the preseason poll results alongside the current standings-
                pollmvc12

                The most notable thing is that virtually everyone was wrong about Missouri State. Instead of leading the MVC, they are a .500 team. They are currently tied for 5th and have the 8th best overall record. Also, SIU, instead of being last where they were picked, they are tied for 3rd. The other 8 teams were picked not far from where they are at this point, though UNI has overachieved and Evansville, due to unforeseen events, is buried in last place.
                But the 2019-20 Booby Prize goes to whoever gave Illinois State a 1st place vote!

                With 4 games left, Evansville has clinched either the #9 or #10 seed (most likely 10th)
                Illinois State has clinched a Thursday play-in game, but their seed could possibly be as high as 7 or as low as 10. The only way they could avoid Thursday is if they win their last 4 games to end 7-11 (highly unlikely) and three of the 7-7 teams lose their final 4 games to create a 4-way tie for 6th place. However, because all those four 7-7 teams have a number of games with each other, meaning there will be teams who pick up wins, there is no mathematical way 3 of them can lose every remaining game and end up 7-11. So ILSU looks like they will finish either 8th or 9th, most likely 9th.
                Then there will be a battle among 4 or more teams to stay out of the bottom 4. The 7th and 8th seed teams will almost certainly come from the group of 4 teams that are currently 7-7. However, it could still be possible for a team like Bradley or SIU to fall into the bottom 4 if they lose their final 4 games.

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                • #9
                  Thanks.Go Braves. Looked pretty bad

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                  • #10
                    The only thing I've decided is that our basketball program is worth watching again. The Glasser effect seems to have finally, fully gone away.

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                    • #11
                      The last two weeks are going to be fire. Arch Madness is shaping up to be fantastic as always. No reason we cant go 4 and 0. Go BU. Missouri St seems to be getting it going, i am so glad this game is in Peoria. Id like to avoid them in St Louis. Im hopeful for the one or two seed and a friday match up with the Redbirds then beat UNI on sat and Loyola on Sunday for a change.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                        Here is the preseason poll results alongside the current standings-
                        pollmvc12

                        The most notable thing is that virtually everyone was wrong about Missouri State. Instead of leading the MVC, they are a .500 team.
                        Everyone except fans of the MVC. Just goes to show you that the pundits aren't smarter than anyone else, and knowledge is more prevalent with those who are actually watching the games!
                        Larry Bird
                        I've got a theory that if you give 100 percent all of the time, somehow things will work out in the end.

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                        • #13
                          It looks virtually impossible to meet up with ISU Red. They’re pretty locked in the 9 seed, and we’re pretty locked in either the 2-3, which is the opposite side of the bracket. If we get the 2, we’d draw the winner of the 7-10, which would be Evansville and one of the 7-7 logjam teams. We could slip to the 4-5 game but meeting them would then require them beating UNI.

                          It’s pretty incredible that we always seem to be on opposite sides of the bracket and haven’t met in STL since 2001. But run into Loyola and Drake all the time.
                          BRADLEY BASKETBALL
                          -2 NCAA Title Games
                          -3 NCAA Elite Eights
                          -4 NCAA Sweet 16s
                          -4 NIT Championships

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                          • #14
                            It’s pretty cool to see 8 out of 10 teams with .500 or better conference records and the same 8 teams have above .500 overall records as well. Not sure how often that happens.
                            Thinking is the hardest work, that is why so few people do it. -Henry Ford

                            Yeah...I've been in college for a while now and I'm pretty sure that awesomest is not a word. -Andrew E.

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                            • #15
                              I was just introduced to Matt Hackman's work listening to the most recent March to the Arch podcast. He does MVC tournament probabilities as the season winds down. He has BU pretty firmly as a 3 seed. Check out his twitter @mjhackman for the latest each week.
                              BTW, the March to the Arch podcast has been a great way to keep tabs on the Valley all season. I encourage everyone to check it out, even if you do just fast forward to the mentions of BU to get outsider perspectives on what they see in this team (both guys are scared of BU's potential right now with EC back). I hope Baker and Vance can keep it going for years to come.
                              https://twitter.com/mjhackman/status...594818050?s=20

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