Final score: Bradley 67 Valparaiso 42

[Go_Braves]

OK - what a Valley standings bottle neck and for me a "worst case" obvious question: I hope that this does not happen. Does Bradley have the "tie breaker" over Southern Illinois ?

[Big Mike]

They do over isu with the sweep!

[Chibearsfan10125]

Siu owns a tie breaker with us if it’s just us 2 since we split and they have a higher NET ranking. At this stage, if SIU loses, UNI wins, and we lose, we’’ would be the 7 seed unfortunately. SIU did sweep UNI, though, so in the event all 3 of us lose, UNI would fall to 7th.

The least complicated scenarios are if SIU beats ISU or if we win at Loyala. ISU loses and they are the 7 seed. We win and we avoid Thursday.

[Canton BU fan]

Played well tonight. I have a question...what section is Bradley's in St Louis?

[tornado]

Bradley does not have the NET tiebreaker over SIU

[pauly616]

Really too bad that we lost the game to SIU at home... We would be talking about having a shot at a tie for first instead of ways to avoid the play in game. We have to root for SIU or InSU. It would take some of the pressure off of the game since we play later in the day on Saturday.

[Chibearsfan10125]

I wish SIU or ISU had lost today, but if you had told me when we were 0-5 that we would have a chance to avoid Thursday with a win in our last game, I’d have signed up in a heartbeat. Regardless of what happens, I’m proud of how this team responded after a rough start to the Valley season.

[Da Coach]

Tonight's final scores-
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...ard/_/group/18


Current MVC standings-

Drake	11-6	-	22-8
Loyola-Chicago	11-6	-	18-12
Missouri State	10-7	1	16-14
Bradley	9-8	2	17-13
Illinois State	9-8	2	16-14
Southern Illinois	9-8	2	16-14
Northern Iowa	9-8	2	14-16
Valparaiso	7-10	4	14-16
Indiana State	6-11	5	14-15
Evansville	4-13	7	10-20

Bradley is in a 4-way tie for 4th place. One of those 4 teams will join Valpo, Evansville, and Indiana State in the Thursday games.
Here is Saturday's schedule-
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas.../date/20190302

Since ISU plays at SIU, obviously one of those 2 teams will lose and drop to 9-9. The winner will be 10-8 and be safe from Thursday.
Bradley holds the head-to-head and NET tiebreaker with ILSU, but BU split with UNI and SIU and they lose the tiebreaker with both those teams because of the NET with both of them.
There are number of possible combinations, but to simplify, if Bradley wins Saturday at Loyola, they will avoid Thursday (since either SIU or ISU will lose. But if BU loses Saturday at Loyola, they need to hope Illinois State loses, too at SIU, since ISU is the only team they have the clearcut tiebreaker with.

[tornado]

the technical on DLO was totally bogus - the Valpo player was 100% responsible

[Go_Braves]

Thank you Da Coach and all others spelling out the different possible scenarios regarding which Valley team can be seated where in Arch Madness by their Saturday outcome. The bottom line - everyone will know by 3:30 pm CST this Saturday if Bradley's 5 pm CST game against Loyola is a "must win" for Bradley to avoid being the 7th seed.

[basketball nut]

Tonight's final scores-
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...ard/_/group/18


Current MVC standings-

Drake	11-6	-	22-8
Loyola-Chicago	11-6	-	18-12
Missouri State	10-7	1	16-14
Bradley	9-8	2	17-13
Illinois State	9-8	2	16-14
Southern Illinois	9-8	2	16-14
Northern Iowa	9-8	2	14-16
Valparaiso	7-10	4	14-16
Indiana State	6-11	5	14-15
Evansville	4-13	10-20

Bradley is in a 4-way tie for 4th place. One of those 4 teams will join Valpo, Evansville, and Indiana State in the Thursday games.
Here is Saturday's schedule-
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas.../date/20190302

Since ISU plays at SIU, obviously one of those 2 teams will lose and drop to 9-9. The winner will be 10-8 and be safe from Thursday.
Bradley holds the head-to-head and NET tiebreaker with ILSU, but BU split with UNI and SIU and they lose the tiebreaker with both those teams because of the NET with both of them.
There are number of possible combinations, but to simplify, if Bradley wins Saturday at Loyola, they will avoid Thursday (since either SIU or ISU will lose. But if BU loses Saturday at Loyola, they need to hope Illinois State loses, too at SIU, since ISU is the only team they have the clearcut tiebreaker with.

Doesn't BU own the tie breaker with IL ST? The worst that BU can finish is in a tie w/ ISU so doesn't that keep BU out of the Thursday game?

[Da Coach]

Yes Bradley owns the tiebreaker with ISU, but no, Bradley is not yet assured of staying out of Thursday because they do not own the tiebreaker with SIU or UNI, both of whom could still end up in a tie with Bradley at 9-9. So if BU and SIU lose Saturday, Bradley will fall to a 2-way tie with SIU, or possibly a 3-way tie with SIU & UNI. In either case, Bradley would will lose those tiebreakers and be the 7th seed (as I said above). If they end in a 2-way tie with ISU, Bradley wins that tiebreaker. If it ends as a 3-way tie between BU, ISU, and UNI, it would be Bradley that wins, UNI second, and ISU 3rd by virtue of Bradley's sweep of ISU.

In summary, If Bradley wins Saturday, they avoid Thursday.
If Bradley loses to Loyola, they have to hope ISU loses to SIU. In that case Bradley will end in either a 2-way tie with ISU, or a 3-way that includes ISU & UNI. Those are the only tiebreakers I see that Bradley wins and avoids the 7th seed if they end 9-9.

[Big Mike]

That makes sense with a tie Bradley would be out of the bottom 4 and isu should be in.

[Chibearsfan10125]

If SIU, Bradley, and UNI all end up tied, Bradley would end up ahead of UNI because SIU swept UNI. The three way tie would first go to round robin record. Siu would be 3-1, Bradley 2-2 and UNI is 1-3.

[AZ BU Fan]

Just win the $#@&+ game at Loy and forget about all this tie breaker @#$&+?
i don't want BU backing into the MVC Tourney!!!