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  • #16
    Valpo tried to give the game to SIU as they didn't score a point in the last 2:07 of the game. They led 55-46 and SIU kept chipping away, getting some offensive rebounds off missed FT's to get it to 55-52. Valpo had 2 very deliberate offensive possessions that produced nothing and it gave SIU a chance. They missed a 3, got another offensive rebound and missed another 3 and Valpo got fouled with 2.4 left. A missed FT gave SIU one more chance but after a timeout they threw the ball away. Derrik Smits led Valpo with 11 and Deon Lavender had 10, including the last 6 of the game for Valpo. Armon Fletcher had 18 and Marcus Bartley had 10 for SIU. They were 11-18 from the field, the rest of the team was 8-31.

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    • #17
      In the soap opera known as How the Valley Turns things just keep spinning around and around. Loyola has the tiebreaker over Drake but they have a harder schedule. They go to SIU and UNI and host BU while Drake goes to ISU Red, is home to ISU Blue and finishes at Missouri State. Missouri State hosts ISU Blue, go to ISU Red and finish at home with Drake. UNI is home to Valpo and Loyola and finish at ISU Blue. SIU hosts Loyola, is at Evansville and finish at home against ISU Red. Valpo goes to UNI and us and finishes at home against Evansville. If their is a three way or more tie for position then the rankings will be decided by a mini round robin. We just need to take care of Valpo and Evansville and depending what we do against Loyola we should finish 5th or 6th. The fun continues this weekend.

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      • #18
        As best as I can tell, here is the current standings, including ranked by tiebreakers with 3 games remaining for all teams.
        The final determination will be made after all games are completed.
        Drake 10-5 - 21-7
        Loyola-Chicago 10-5 - 17-11
        Missouri State 9-6 1 15-13
        Northern Iowa 8-7 2 13-15
        Valparaiso 7-8 3 14-14
        Bradley 7-8 3 15-13
        Illinois State 7-8 3 14-14
        Southern Illinois 7-8 3 14-14
        Indiana State 6-9 4 14-13
        Evansville 4-11 6 10-18
        The current standings posted on the front page of the MVC Men's Basketball web page show a different order.
        Their standings are based on which team has the better overall record, and by alphabetical order in the case of identical overall records-
        The official Men's Basketball page for Missouri Valley Conference



        Tiebreakers: Each of the 4 teams tied for 5th place has one more game left with a team they are tied with (BU plays VU, and SIU has a game left with ISU), Valparaiso's record against BU, SIU, and ISU is currently 5-0, so they win the tiebreaker among all 4 teams as of right now. Bradley's record is 3-2, ISU is 1-4 (only win is a 59-58 win at home over SIU), and SIU's record is also 1-4 (only win was at Bradley).
        So Bradley finishes 2nd among the 4 teams considering the tiebreaker formula, and ISU 3rd, ahead of SIU by virtue of their head-to-head 1-0 record against SIU. SIU is 4th.
        Of course, this will all change after the remaining games are played.
        It is interesting to note that the NET, if needed to break any ties at the end of the season currently looks like this for these 4 teams-
        SIU 145
        Bradley 172
        Valpo 178
        ISU 190

        MVC tiebreaker explained:
        http://mvc-sports.com/news/2018/12/1...iebreaker.aspx

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        • #19
          Originally posted by tornado View Post
          ISU getting clobbered over at Indiana State

          Indiana State 58 - ISU 39 with 10 minutes to go

          ISU is so afraid to play defense for fear of picking up fouls - just another manifestation
          of their incredibly short bench and lack of depth
          This allows Bronson Kessinger to look like Joel Embiid
          and Copeland (0-7), Tinsley & Chastain can't guard anyone - Key & Cooper Neese have combined for 14-22 and 36 pts!!

          ..not to mention the ISU guys are walking and look absolutely gassed....sucking wind

          would love to hear the ISU guys' rebuttal again about how deep this team is
          I really hate to root against the Sycamores but Lansing needs to go and I am not happy with the last consecutive 9 years of mediocrity or less. Once the Sycamores are no longer held hostage by a "Lowery-SIU" contract he needs to go even if he was able to win one game over .500 with the perimeter talent he has available that is not performing under his direction. The one exception I have about the attached article is the Jordan Barnes comment. Obviously they based it on pre-conference stats because he has hurt more than helped until they finally reigned in him a bit. https://www.coachesdatabase.com/hot-seat-report/

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          • #20
            That's too bad for all involved - there have been several times in the past few years - even as recent as 2 years ago...
            that Greg Lansing's name has been mentioned in connection to being hired away to bigger programs....


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            • #21
              Originally posted by bigjimmy View Post
              Missouri State was just plain horrible in the last 8 1/2 minutes as they were outscored 25-10. UNI was 20-29 from the FT line, 12-16 in the last 3 1/2 minutes when the game was out of hand. A road team getting to the FT line? HMMMM . MSU was a dreadful 2-18 from 3 and were 7-14 from the FT line.
              Missouri State coach Dana Ford got his first ejection of his career there

              He issued a public apology for his audible comment that got him ejected
              He got right in the face of the ref and said "F**k you"
              https://twitter.com/NPapes/status/1098429533953376257
              https://twitter.com/CoachDanaFord/status/1098734951267225600

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              • #22
                Originally posted by tornado View Post
                That's too bad for all involved - there have been several times in the past few years - even as recent as 2 years ago...
                that Greg Lansing's name has been mentioned in connection to being hired away to bigger programs....
                https://www.bradleyfans.com/forum/sp...-81-bradley-71
                https://www.bradleyfans.com/forum/sp...-coaching-hire
                Lansing has good PR assistance. Mostly hand picked stats or excerpts from living in the past. In 9 years his overall win-loss record is below .500 when D1 games only are looked at, MVC record several games below .500, no winning season since Jake Odum graduated. Every once in a while he has been able to beat someone that wasn't expected in the pre-conference but has never continued the success the rest of the way those particular seasons. Constant gushing "how great he is & working for pauper wages" by TV Announcers and other news media who only read what is printed or what they are told. He does not develop players, can't motivate them for more than one big game at a time and most surprising being a former associate of Steve Alford, who had to be the beneficiary of more picks as a shooter in modern times when he played for Bob Knight can not determine how to use that experience to get his own shooters open. Past time for him to go away............typical Lansing teams example from a couple of years or so ago ...... "Remember - just a couple games before that 5-game losing streak started they beat #15 ranked Butler" & how about the big win at Indiana in Archie Miller's 1st season but did nothing with that momentum for the season either. etc. etc. etc.

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                • #23
                  when Randy Bennett started coaching at St. Mary's he was 9-20 his first year and 3-11 in conference
                  and even after six seasons, his overall record was 102-83 but only 45-39 in conference..
                  but then in the next 11 years he averaged close to 30 wins per year - so there are examples of a guy just needing more time...
                  But in the end - the people of Indiana State have to decide - just like the people of Bradley finally rose up and decided in 2015, realizing the ignorant & costly mistake some made back in 2011.

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