Jeremy Robinson commits to ISU

[romar]

Jeremy may have a release from his medical doctor, but that doesn't mean he is released to play basketball.
If that's what you think is meant by the statement in the Pantagraph, then you are being very hopeful.

Tornado, what do you make of this statement:

Moore said Robinson was fully released by doctors last week.
???‚¬?“Last Monday in open gym he looked good,???‚¬?? said Moore.

What do you think goes on at open gyms? Last time I checked, it was alot of basketball things. (shooting, pick up games, etc.)

mel--
I have been at open gyms, but I sure don't play basketball.
If he is playing basketball at open gyms, then if I were you I'd be pretty danged worried...given it's only 2 months since ACL surgery.
He might have been standing and shooting, but let's pick up on this again once you actually find anyone who sees him playing ball against live opponents.

If it was just the ACL, a near full recovery can happen. If there was any damage to the meniscus, there's a likelihood of recurring problems. I'm speaking from experience as I've had the ACL replacement surgery. It's been almost 7 years now and the ACL part, in other words my knee capsule, is still very much solid. The problem is that I continue to have fraying of the meniscus that gets into the joint and completely aggravates the knee. I have to admit that the first couple of years post surgery it took forever to actually trust the knee was solid, although I was up and playing softball and b-ball after about 7 mos of recovery. Because of the meniscus repair, they had me on crutches for 6 weeks. I was told that without that they would have had me walking and active in p/t within 3 weeks. I was 37 when I hurt myself - so my recovery time might have been a little skewed when you compare it to a 17 y/o, but to be back in action after 2 mos seems quite improbable to me. Athletically, once I trusted the knee again I did not feel I lost any more than I would have through the normal aging process. This is just my POV - FWIW.

I think that ISU may have gotten a steal here by the time the kids a SO or Jr. Good luck to Jeremy.

[tornado]

They all have the potential to get better in time, so I am not sure what you mean.
I believe Jeremy Robinson will be as good or better than Slack is, and the two are very similar...in size, physique, in the ability to bang inside, to score, and in their shooting abilities and range.

I said right from the start, it's a good get, and real steal.
I would have liked to see Robinson at BU and healthy.

[cpacmel]

If I see a guy who is 2 months post ACL surgery, and if the guy is walking without a cane and able to get up out of a chair, then I tell him he's "looking good".
If you wish to think he was out on the floor playing full contact basketball, then fine, but I don't believe it and I have a little medical background to feel comfortable saying that.


Find me even ONE example of a kid with ACL surgery who was playing basketball in 2 months.
Take your time, talk to a couple ortho specialists, then get back to me.
It is simply a physical impossibility.

T, no one said he was playing basketball. We have said he went to open gym. What he did at Open Gym is a mystery to everyone.

You say he might have just been walking without a cain, I say he was doing some basketball stuff.

I'll take the word of his high school basketball coach over yours.

If he says he looked good at open gym, I am going to assume that mean basketball wise, not walking without a cain wise.

[tornado]

As you wish, but that quote is in the Pantagraph...so you sure you are standing by it??

[cpacmel]

As you wish, but that quote is in the Pantagraph...so you sure you are standing by it??

You make a good point there.

Honestly, who knows what he did at open gym. Even if he shot 10 free throws, that would be progress for him.

I guess we will see when the Fall comes and high school basketball starts back up.

[romar]

If I see a guy who is 2 months post ACL surgery, and if the guy is walking without a cane and able to get up out of a chair, then I tell him he's "looking good".
If you wish to think he was out on the floor playing full contact basketball, then fine, but I don't believe it and I have a little medical background to feel comfortable saying that.


Find me even ONE example of a kid with ACL surgery who was playing basketball in 2 months.
Take your time, talk to a couple ortho specialists, then get back to me.
It is simply a physical impossibility.

T, no one said he was playing basketball. We have said he went to open gym. What he did at Open Gym is a mystery to everyone.

You say he might have just been walking without a cain, I say he was doing some basketball stuff.

I'll take the word of his high school basketball coach over yours.

If he says he looked good at open gym, I am going to assume that mean basketball wise, not walking without a cain wise.

Again - from my experience - he may have been doing some straight line running - but definitely do not think he would be doing any cutting or side to side motions that soon after surgery. If his coach had seen him go through the pre-surgery & post-surgery period and saw him running straight line in the gym - I could see him making such a statement. He also has the kids well being at heart and defiinitely wouldn't want to say anything negative.

[tornado]

By the way, I found another report by Dan Poneman' s site,
by Cavan Walsh.....the same guy who wrote yesteerday's article:

"Jeremy Robinson ???‚¬??? Recovering from knee surgery 3-4 weeks ago. He???‚¬?„?s very anxious to get on the court again this summer and didn???‚¬?„?t wear a brace, but rumor has it that he will not be near 100% until November-December."

[smitty]

Here are some Illinois rankings that include Jeremy Robinson

#15 on Daniel Poneman's www.Illinoishsbasketball.com:

http://www.freewebs.com/chipatsj23h/classof2008ranking.htm

#19 and #21 on a couple Rivals lists:

http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=7616

#11 on ChicagoHoops.com:

http://www.chicagohoops.com/articles1/2008rankings.html

[dogsrus]

I tore my lateral meniscus many many moons ago. I SUSPECT I also damaged my ACL but it was never "caught". My knee has never been 100% since so I had a MRI recently.

I have NO ACL... . It could have been a birth defect but I suspect it was when I tore the meniscus.

Anybody bored yet

My point is it hasn't stopped me from my athletic endeavors one bit although the fellows at the home have stated they don't see near the balance or explosion I used to have during our daily shuffle board battles.

[scout4126]

ISU wasnt even listed as recruiting him.

He was listed with an offer from ISU at Midstatehoops.com along with Dayton, Iowa State, Bradley, and Creighton.

[cpacmel]

Romar, Tornado, and others thanks for all the insight.

[tornado]

scout-
the Pantagraph article says Jeremy was being recruited a year ago by Porter Moser and Moser even got Jeremy to ISU for a visit.
If that be the case, why didn't anyone list ISU as recruiting Robinson until recently, and very few list ISU even now?

[DannyCooksey]

By the way, I found another report by Dan Poneman' s site,
by Cavan Walsh.....the same guy who wrote yesteerday's article:

"Jeremy Robinson ???‚¬??? Recovering from knee surgery 3-4 weeks ago. He???‚¬?„?s very anxious to get on the court again this summer and didn???‚¬?„?t wear a brace, but rumor has it that he will not be near 100% until November-December."

That's probably accurate.

In my opinion this is all a moot point. By the time he gets to playing at ISU, he will be 18 months give or take removed from the surgery and should be at or near 100%. So whether he is or is not physically capable of playing now it doesn't matter. By all accounts he will be able to play for his senior year and be a major factor in his team's success and then be able to compete for playing time right away as a freshman at ISU. Everything else is really immaterial at this point. He just needs to focus on his rehab, get stronger and have a good senior year. Then hopefully he is a big part of the Redbird resurgence in Valley basketball.

I gotta think, looking ahead, that a commit like this can only help the 'Birds with Kenyon Smith or other prospects. Good players want to play with other good players.

[DannyCooksey]

scout-
the Pantagraph article says Jeremy was being recruited a year ago by Porter Moser and Moser even got Jeremy to ISU for a visit.
If that be the case, why didn't anyone list ISU as recruiting Robinson until recently, and very few list ISU even now?

you'd have to ask them. I also expect Robinson to drop from a Scout 3-star to a 1 star after a verbal to 'mid-major' ISU. Conversely he would have been a 4-star if he verballed to Iowa or somewhere like that.

[romar]

I tore my lateral meniscus many many moons ago. I SUSPECT I also damaged my ACL but it was never "caught". My knee has never been 100% since so I had a MRI recently.

I have NO ACL... . It could have been a birth defect but I suspect it was when I tore the meniscus.

Anybody bored yet

My point is it hasn't stopped me from my athletic endeavors one bit although the fellows at the home have stated they don't see near the balance or explosion I used to have during our daily shuffle board battles.

I was wondering what the ladies in your mud wrestling league have to say! LOL