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  • #16
    Recker did get a waiver to transfer from Arizona to Iowa after having left Indiana for Arizona. He and his grilfriend were in an accident and they granted him a waiver to be closer to her or home or something.

    I believe that Kris Humphries also got a waiver after leaving Duke for Minnesota because of some personal issues.

    I am sure there are more examples.

    With that said, if I am Tyler Smith, I take the redshirt year and spend as much time at home with my father as possible. But he, instead, appeals for a waiver and will be spending weekends taveling when he could be home with his father. Seems to me his priorities are out of wack.

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    • #17
      Kris Humphries verballed to Duke and signed a LOI but never enrolled.
      He was released only from his LOI and there was no transfer to Minnesota. When he started at Minnesota he started as a freshman.

      The only other examples I have seen are exceedingly few and far between.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by FarmerClone
        Recker did get a waiver to transfer from Arizona to Iowa after having left Indiana for Arizona. He and his grilfriend were in an accident and they granted him a waiver to be closer to her or home or something.
        Recker's father lived close to Iowa City....I think that was a factor in the NCAA's ruling.

        In any case, I don't like the NCAA's ruling with regards to Tyler Smith......as tragic as it is, his father's lung cancer isn't something new. I think it potentially opens up a can of worms in the future.

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        • #19
          Agree, and it is only a matter of time until someone - possibly the next Jeremy Fears or Sead Odzic - will make the same claim to be back closer to home due to some hardship.
          I strongly suspect you will not see any mid-major school get the same ruling that Tennessee just got and my digging that I referenced above gives strong evidence of such.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by tornado
            Agree, and it is only a matter of time until someone - possibly the next Jeremy Fears or Sead Odzic - will make the same claim to be back closer to home due to some hardship.
            I strongly suspect you will not see any mid-major school get the same ruling that Tennessee just got and my digging that I referenced above gives strong evidence of such.
            Actually, your research shows that NO school, regardless of size, should expect such a ruling. They are indeed rare and I think Smith is using his father's misfortune for his advatage. He got to move from a horrible Iowa team with a new coach to a top 10 team with no penalty and rather than spending a redshirt year spending time with his Dad, he will be playing ball instead.

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            • #21
              All Dick Versace did was tell the truth about the NCAA, when Bradley didn't get the invite to the tournament. As for Bruce Pearl, all he did was tell the truth about an Illinois recruit.
              What part of illegal don't you understand?

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              • #22
                Chico...you need a reminder of the facts:

                Regardless of what Bruce Pearl may have claimed or told the NCAA, the full and seemingly endless investigation by the NCAA did NOT find anything to support the claims by Bruce Pearl.

                In fact, here is an admission from an IOWA source saying exactly that:

                "In the end, Berst held a press conference in which he pointedly said that the NCAA basically thought Illinois was guilty of serious improprieties but they could not be proved. He emphasized that they were not exonerating Illinois, just unable to obtain the necessary evidence to find Illinois guilty of major infractions.

                NCAA Enforcement did manage to nail the Illini for minor infractions, censured the program, assigned minor penalties.....

                I'm posting this for two reasons: 1) It ought to be required knowledge of fans of both Illinois and Iowa how the Bruce Pearl/Deon Thomas sto...



                In other words....the NCAA had to come up with something to justify its investigation and nailed Illinois on a few minor things, but never found any evidence to support Pearl's claims.
                So it is still pure conjecture if Pearl was telling the truth or just playing the same game a lot of people play in this profession to try to get one up on the opponent.
                It is widely believed that if you dig deep enough and hard enough into any program anywhere, you can find infractions similar to what they found at Illinois.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by tornado
                  Chico...you need a reminder of the facts:

                  Regardless of what Bruce Pearl may have claimed or told the NCAA, the full and seemingly endless investigation by the NCAA did NOT find anything to support the claims by Bruce Pearl.

                  In fact, here is an admission from an IOWA source saying exactly that:

                  "In the end, Berst held a press conference in which he pointedly said that the NCAA basically thought Illinois was guilty of serious improprieties but they could not be proved. He emphasized that they were not exonerating Illinois, just unable to obtain the necessary evidence to find Illinois guilty of major infractions.

                  NCAA Enforcement did manage to nail the Illini for minor infractions, censured the program, assigned minor penalties.....

                  I'm posting this for two reasons: 1) It ought to be required knowledge of fans of both Illinois and Iowa how the Bruce Pearl/Deon Thomas sto...



                  In other words....the NCAA had to come up with something to justify its investigation and nailed Illinois on a few minor things, but never found any evidence to support Pearl's claims.
                  So it is still pure conjecture if Pearl was telling the truth or just playing the same game a lot of people play in this profession to try to get one up on the opponent.
                  It is widely believed that if you dig deep enough and hard enough into any program anywhere, you can find infractions similar to what they found at Illinois.
                  I agree with the end of your statemnet, even BU probably has broken some you'll inadvertantly. What irks me are when people like Kelvin Sampson obviously and openly violate rules and nothing happens.

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                  • #24
                    Just because they couldn't prove it, doesn't mean the charges didn't happen. The Ilini as well as everybody else aren't perfect.
                    What part of illegal don't you understand?

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                    • #25
                      Every program has its heroes and villains. Tom Izzo has been a fierce competitor of IL for years and years, but the guy is all class and you would be hard pressed to find IL fans that just flat out dislike him. Pearl and Sampson, though equally competitive and somewhat successfull, have earned their place with Illini fans.

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