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**Da Coach** · 06-13-2007, 01:05 PM

There are a lot of people who would not include schools like Memphis and New Mexico as mid-majors. It appears their definition of a mid-major is any school not in a BCS conference.

**That Guy** · 06-13-2007, 01:08 PM

Jackson State, MTSU...

Really? Honestly????

**BUBraves06** · 06-13-2007, 01:18 PM

Just another group that is going to be proven wrong at the end of the season.

**georgethedog** · 06-13-2007, 01:27 PM

Polls are horses**t anyway. Have you ever taken the pre-season top 25 poll and compared it to the final one? I did a couple of years to find that preseason polls mean nothing and serve no purpose other than securing a sportswriter???��?�?s phony-boloney job.

**it's boogie time** · 06-13-2007, 01:49 PM

These are recruiting classes rankings.

**BUBraves06** · 06-13-2007, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by it's boogie time

These are recruiting classes rankings.

If that's true that's interesting because some recruiting sources have our class as high as #23 in the country, yet we are nowhere to be found on the mid-major list.

**Da Coach** · 06-13-2007, 01:57 PM

Yes, the rankings are for "Midmajors" and are for their recruiting classes for 2007. I have edited the top post to state that.

**shaunguth** · 06-13-2007, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by BUBraves06

Originally posted by it's boogie time

These are recruiting classes rankings.

If that's true that's interesting because some recruiting sources have our class as high as #23 in the country, yet we are nowhere to be found on the mid-major list.

Exactly....and that's all we really need to know when it comes to preseason "rankings" of any sort. The only thing that really matters is the end result once the teams take the court.

**Stryker** · 06-13-2007, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by shaunguth

Originally posted by BUBraves06

Originally posted by it's boogie time

These are recruiting classes rankings.

If that's true that's interesting because some recruiting sources have our class as high as #23 in the country, yet we are nowhere to be found on the mid-major list.

Exactly....and that's all we really need to know when it comes to preseason "rankings" of any sort. The only thing that really matters is the end result once the teams take the court.

Maybe they think our recruiting class was so good we are a major now...lol. This does seem strange though. I guess the only way to earn respect is to go out and win in the big dance, which we knew anyway, we just have to win alot more in the big dance.

**tornado** · 06-13-2007, 06:33 PM

There really is NO MVC team who defied the pundits and prognosticators any more over the past two years than BRADLEY.

In 2005-2006, BU was given little chance of being any better than a .500 club and no postseason prayers, yet BU finished in the hunt among the Valley elite and went to the Sweet Sixteen.

In 2006-2007, BU was universally picked either 8th or 9th.
NOT one guru had BU any higher than 7th, and only one source that I know of outside this board even had us that high.

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I still have all the Fall-2006 preseason magazines sitting to prove it!

But BU went on to another 22 win season and was clearly one of the top four teams in the league and played in the postseason.

SO---- I guess we here at BradleyFans, in our 2.5 years in existence, have shown who knows more than all those pundits.
It may seem a little insulting to those guys and the people who called for BU to be a mediocre team the past two seasons, but facts are facts.
We have established a track record and now claim superiority so those preseason predictions just don't bother me any more.

**BradleyBrave** · 06-13-2007, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by tornado

There really is NO MVC team who defied the pundits and prognosticators any more over the past two years than BRADLEY.

In 2005-2006, BU was given little chance of being any better than a .500 club and no postseason prayers, yet BU finished in the hunt among the Valley elite and went to the Sweet Sixteen.

In 2006-2007, BU was universally picked either 8th or 9th.
NOT one guru had BU any higher than 7th, and only one source that I know of outside this board even had us that high.

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http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=3549

I still have all the Fall-2006 preseason magazines sitting to prove it!

But BU went on to another 22 win season and was clearly one of the top four teams in the league and played in the postseason.

SO---- I guess we here at BradleyFans, in our 2.5 years in existence, have shown who knows more than all those pundits.
It may seem a little insulting to those guys and the people who called for BU to be a mediocre team the past two seasons, but facts are facts.
We have established a track record and now claim superiority so those preseason predictions just don't bother me any more.

Mediocre team? A team that wins 22 games back-to-back seasons in a top 5 conference, that finishes in the top 40 in the RPI 2 years in a row, that has won 3 postseason games over the last 2 seasons is 'mediocre'? Please. Anyone who says that is just showing their ignorance.

**tornado** · 06-13-2007, 08:41 PM

But get ready for it, BB, it is already starting.
Have you not heard it? There are already those saying BU will bite the dust this year and have a big setback.

Here are the only two guys I have seen making their Valley predictions for next year....

---This guy says BU will be 8th

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Then he totally discredits himself and shows his buffoonery by claiming Indiana State will be 4th!!!

---This guy picks Bradley 5th, and I understand his skepticism with all the new players, but he still thinks ISU will finish two slots better at 3rd, and they have a whole new system, coach, and several personnel changes, too. They are also desperately thin in the frontcourt and at PG, while they have a glut at the 2-guard position, how many 2-guards can you play at once?
I am still confident BU will do better than 2 slots behind ISU.

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**it's boogie time** · 06-14-2007, 11:02 AM

Bradley will start getting better preseason picks once they start doing better in the previous conference season. Bradley's best finish under Jim Les is 4th place. He has 3 wins in 5 years in St. Louis. It's hard to pick a team that has never challenged for a regular season title to win it. The program is pointed in the right direction, but needs the results that most of us expect this upcoming season for other people to come around.

**tornado** · 06-14-2007, 12:00 PM

So you agree and concede that their preseason prediction has NOTHING to do with any sense of what Bradley has this season and what they are going to do this season with the talent they have relative to the talent the other teams have!

You are agreeing that the gurus simply look at the past and see that Les has not won in St. Louis and he has not finished better than 4th....and that performance WILL determine this season as well!
...therefore they won't bother to give him any consideration this year.

That is an amazing admission, boogie...that's like saying Florida won the National Championship last year so I am going to pick them again this year even if they lost everyone.
Or like saying Illinois State hasn't finished in the top half of the Valley this century, so why put them there now.....but....

The one guy DID pick ISU 3rd....so I think your logic is flawed.

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