Mid State Hoops top post players

[Daniel Poneman]

For those of you who saw Mid state hoops top post players in the class of 07, i am wondering if you all are as shocked as i am that a website that Charges for thier rankings packets can be so clearly off. Here is the ranking.... (i will comment on all that is wrong on the bottom)
1
PF
Mac Koshwal
Chicago (IL) Boys to Men
Chicago Jaguars

6'8"/250
VERBALLY COMMITTED TO DEPAUL

2
C
Beas Hamga
Decatur (IL) Christian
Indiana Elite

6'11"/225
VERBALLY COMMITTED TO UNLV

3
PF
Carlton Fay
Putnam County (IL) H.S.
Illinois Wolves

6'8"/235
VERBALLY COMMITTED TO SOUTHERN ILLINOIS

4
F
Demond Watt
Calumet City (IL) TF North
Illinois Warriors

6'7"/215
VERBALLY COMMITTED TO TEXAS A&M-CORPUS CHRISTI

5
F
Brandon McGee
Chicago (IL) Crane
Illinois Warriors

6'7"/210
VERBALLY COMMITTED TO INDIANA

6
C
Michael Tisdale
Riverton (IL) H.S.
St. Louis Eagles

7'1"/220
VERBALLY COMMITTED TO ILLINOIS

7
F
Dijibril Coulibaly
Chicago (IL) Boys to Men

6'10"/230
VERBALLY COMMITTED TO MANHATTEN

8
PF
Isaiah Martin
Chicago (IL) Morgan Park
Old Gold

6'8"/210
VERBALLY COMMITTED TO INDIANA STATE

9
PF
Bill Cole
Peoria (IL) Richwoods
Illinois Warriors

6'9"/210
VERBALLY COMMITTED TO ILLINOIS

10
PF
Tim Flowers
Chicago (IL) Simeon
MeanStreets Express

6'5"/250
VERBALLY COMMITTED TO UW-MILWAUKEE

11
C
Nick Evans
Carbondale (IL) H.S.
Indiana Elite

6'11"/250
VERBALLY COMMITTED TO SOUTHERN ILLINOIS

12
PF
Dwight McCombs
Chicago (IL) Whitney Young
Illinois Wolves

6'7"/220
VERBALLY COMMITTED TO MIAMI-OH

13
F
Lucas O'Rear
Nashville (IL) Community
Midwest Storm

6'6"/235
VERBALLY COMMITTED TO NORTHERN IOWA

14
PF
James Henley
Chicago (IL) Lincoln Park
Illinois Fire

6'7"/225
VERBALLY COMMITTED TO UW-GREEN BAY

15
C
Terrance Williams
Edwardsville (IL) H.S.
Team Illinois

6'11"/220
VERBALLY COMMITTED TO SOUTHERN ILLINOIS-EDWARSVILLE

16
C
Zach House
Rock Falls (IL) H.S.
Full Package

7'0"/235
VERBALLY COMMITTED TO EVANSVILLE

17
F
Byron Pickens
Chicago (IL) Senn
Chicago Demons

6'7"/215
VERBALLY COMMITTED TO ILLINOIS-CHICAGO

18
PF
James Snider
Carlyle (IL) H.S.
St. Louis Falcons

6'6"/250


19
PF
Diante Gaskew
Chicago (IL) Leo
Chicago Mixers

6'7"/215


20
PF
Josh Brent
Bloomington (IL) Central Catholic
Team Illinois

6'4"/310
VERBALLY COMMITTED TO ILLINOIS (Football)

21
F
Anthony Morris
Harvey (IL) Thornton

6'4"/220
VERBALLY COMMITTED TO ILLINOIS (Football)

22
PF
Andrew Joslin
Chicago (IL) Hubbard

6'7"/250


23
PF
Morris Thompson
Chicago (IL) Foreman
Indiana Heat

6'7"/185


24
PF
Steve Gross
Chicago (IL) Leo
Chicago Mixers

6'7"/210


25
C
Justin Bond
Schaumburg (IL) H.S.
Rising Stars / First Class

6'9"/240


25
PF
Julian Jones
Gurnee (IL) Warren Township
Rising Stars

6'8"/230



First thing that blows my mind is that they have Brandon McGee and Mike Tisdale below Demond Watt.
I might possibly see how they could argue that despite being 6 inches taller and more skilled Tisdale is weaker then Watt thus being potentially less productive as a rebounder (Tisdale is clearly better). They cannot however find much of a reason as to why Watt is ahead of Mcgee, who was his AAU teammate and was clearly the best post player on the team. All the high major coaches that offered mcgee watched Watt play too, and if he was better then why didnt they offer aswell?

Second thing that i just dont get is that midstatehoops is based out of centralillinois, and yet they clearly didnt see the state tournament in Peoria, because if they did then they would knwo that Tim Flowers is clearly better then #10!! He could be considered as #1!!!!!

ill have more later i have to get to class....

[tornado]

You and I agree on this one, DP.
Hardly anyone in America has seen or even knows who Dijibril Coulibaly is. They are entitled to their opinions, but I have seen him when he was here playing in the Tournament of Champions, and he was used essentially as a 2nd stringer, when Boys to Men got up by 15 or more and Holloway or Koshwal needed a rest.
Surely there's a reason that only Manhattan offered the guy, and it's because he'll llikely struggle even at the low-major level.

To rank him above Cole and Flowers must be due to odd logic.
perhaps they rule that Cole often plays away from the hoop and shoots 3's, thus he is a part time SF.

And that even tho Tim Flowers is a true 4-5 in every way, he's undersized and regardless of performance, they just aren't going to rank him high.

Which bring me back to Boys to Men's Clarence Holloway....why is he not listed?
Sure he reclassified 2 times from Class of 2005 to Class of 2006 to Class of 2007.
But so did Koshwal!! and so did Coulibaly!!
And Holloway is a true 7-footer (7-1) that was pursued by the big guys (Cincy, Louisville, DePaul, UConn) and is going to Louisville.
If Coulibaly, Hamga, and Koshwal are on this list, then they must have just forgotten about Holloway!

BTW-- chicagohoops had Holloway as the #3 best Illinois post prospect (behind Koshwal and Hamga).

[Daniel Poneman]

Also, having McCombs 12 is rediculous. I talked to a high major coach at one of his games and he said that had he not commited to Miami he wouldve offered