jamar smith update

[Chico]

Hate to disgree ManMyth, but just read the paper. Everytime something bad happens to a kid, it's always the same. He is such a good kid, etc. In Jamar's case, I had never heard of him being in trouble and read stories about him and he seemed an alright kid. Hope the best for him.

[tornado]

Some, perhaps many, NCAA institutions have explicit statements in their Student Athletic Code of Conduct that requires any player convicted of a felony to be immediately expelled.

Don't believe it?

Check this out:

"If convicted of a felony, a student-athlete will be immediately expelled from his or her athletic team....any remining athletic aid will be terminated immediately"

http://www.csufresno.edu/humres/MAPP/II/E/E-04.pdf

(page 6)



also this one...
"A student athlete convicted of a felony after enrollment...shall be removed from the team and shall not be allowed to participate again in intercollegiate athletics (state) public college or university..."

http://www.boisestate.edu/policy/index.asp?section=4&policynum=4250

(note I. C.)


But then, some schools are just desperate enough to play criminals and thugs.
Anyone remember Rolan Roberts?

Rolan Roberts was a player at Virginia Tech when he was accused of assault and sexual misconduct, and found guilty by
a university judicial review.
Never mind, that he was booted out of Virginia Tech...guess where he transferred to?

He transferred to Southern Illinois University and head coach Bruce Weber.--

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4155/is_20030219/ai_n12494362

[meth]

I never heard of Roberts, but it is apparent Bruce Weber is not bothered by playing kids with criminal backgrounds.

[Da Coach]

As I've seen pointed out here, and not anywhere else, Jamar has yet to be disciplined by Bruce Weber. As far as I can find, Jamar was said to have "voluntarily" left the team late last season, but I cannot find anywhere that Bruce Weber suspended him.
So, as an Illini fan, I want the best for Jamar, but the longer this drags out, the worse it is for the team. I would hope the coach makes a decision soon, now that the legal issues have played out.

It seems to me that Jamar was already disciplined by the authorities. Is it a coaches role/responsibility to discipline a second time? I don't agree with anything this kid did but I think his punishment has already scarred him for life. How many on this board can say they never drink/drank and drive? How many can say they never did anything stupid and irresponsible while in college? The difference is that Jamar wrecked and was "caught". I know I did a lot of dumb things in my youth and was never caught. I'm actually quite thankful that I'm still alive

Jamar broke numerous team rules by drinking, driving drunk, and getting into trouble with the law. I can't agree with you that the coach shouldn't impose some kind of punishment. Getting a full scholarship to represent a state university on a varsity sport is a rare priviledge, not some kind of right.
Most coaches would have already dismissed someone with these kinds of serious (felony) crimes. But it's strange no punishment has come down yet. Bruce Weber has already shown a tendency toward light punishments, as in the Richard McBride DUI case (recall it was not his first legal transgression, yet he got an unusually light suspension).
We'll see how he handles this one.

[chitownBUB]

A new rumor as to why the Illini are coddling Jamar

http://forums.scout.com/mb.aspx?S=169#S=169&F=2616&T=567826

[cpacmel]

A new rumor as to why the Illini are coddling Jamar
http://forums.scout.com/mb.aspx?S=16...=2616&T=567826

This rumor has been shot down here:

http://www.news-gazette.com/chats/2007/06/06/chat_with_paul_klee__bob_asmussen

First, let's dispel this myth. Follow with me: Jamar Smith and D.J. Richardson are NOT cousins. This is an Internet-born myth that is absolutely not true. Say it again: Jamar Smith and D.J. Richardson are not cousins. If I had a dime every time I heard that, I would buy a fifth Allen Iverson Georgetown jersey. I asked Smith about it during the season, and he said they are not cousins. I've repeated that several times. They know each other, yes, but they are not related.

[MacabreMob]

Say it again: Jamar Smith and D.J. Richardson are not cousins. If I had a dime every time I heard that, I would buy a fifth .....

I thought he was gonna say a fifth of tequila.

[vbird]

Jamar broke numerous team rules by drinking, driving drunk, and getting into trouble with the law. I can't agree with you that the coach shouldn't impose some kind of punishment. Getting a full scholarship to represent a state university on a varsity sport is a rare priviledge, not some kind of right.

He did all of that, as well as leaving his teamate for dead in the car.

[chitownBUB]

That's why I noted it was only a rumor.
Smith and DJ are not related.

[tornado]

here is Bruce Weber's response....

http://ciproud.com/content/fulltext/?cid=2554

"I can't rally comment on (Jamar's) situation, I have to get together with my A.D. and the Chancellor and see what they think. And that probably won't happen for another week or so."

So they are waiting to decide what action to take regarding Jamar Smith.
I suspect what BW really wants to do is wait until some of the attention dies down, then designate some meaningless punishment like suspending Jamar over the summer when they don't play any games.
Watch for statements like "He's suffered enough with his injuries and the injuries to Carlwell, and his jail sentence".

Da Coach.........you were right on.

Bruce Weber appeared yesterday on a radio interview in Champaign, and a little discussion of what he said is on the Illinois premium board.

But here it is in short:

"Weber.....Said decision on Jamar may come in the next week - feels that he has been punished enough but it is not in Bruce's hands."

Yup...exactly what was predicted.
Weber will dole out a relatively meaningless, soft penalty and claim it is out of his hands and was decided by someone else......

[MacabreMob]

here is Bruce Weber's response....

http://ciproud.com/content/fulltext/?cid=2554

"I can't rally comment on (Jamar's) situation, I have to get together with my A.D. and the Chancellor and see what they think. And that probably won't happen for another week or so."

So they are waiting to decide what action to take regarding Jamar Smith.
I suspect what BW really wants to do is wait until some of the attention dies down, then designate some meaningless punishment like suspending Jamar over the summer when they don't play any games.
Watch for statements like "He's suffered enough with his injuries and the injuries to Carlwell, and his jail sentence".

Da Coach.........you were right on.

Bruce Weber appeared yesterday on a radio interview in Champaign, and a little discussion of what he said is on the Illinois premium board.

But here it is in short:

"Weber.....Said decision on Jamar may come in the next week - feels that he has been punished enough but it is not in Bruce's hands."

Yup...exactly what was predicted.
Weber will dole out a relatively meaningless, soft penalty and claim it is out of his hands and was decided by someone else......

Whoo-hooo!!!!

Felons getting scholarships and continued special treatment - I LOVE IT!