Best Recruits in Valley?

[bravesonly]

i thought i logged onto bradleyfans.com but apparently i'm on valleytalk.net, my mistake

Sorry, it's your board and I shoulda shut up but your fan attacked CU kids so I responded.

haha its all good, i was just giving ya guys some sh*t...i love college basketball and all the energy it brings, even when we're 6 months away from the season. its what makes it fun year round so keep on posting and stopping by.

GO VALLEY

[tornado]

i thought i logged onto bradleyfans.com but apparently i'm on valleytalk.net, my mistake

Sorry, it's your board and I shoulda shut up but your fan attacked CU kids so I responded.

No, LJ you are welcome to your opinion.

As you know well I did not attack any player, so don't accuse me of attacking Morrison.

All I said was that the people on BradleyFans HAD done their homework, and they had noted the big drop off in Morrison's performance and we weren't alone, as the schools he was visiting also noticed something wrong and all pulled back their offers. And in the end we were right about him and you were wrong. Facts are facts, we proved not to be so dumb after all.

Graves Disease isn't something that simply turns on one day like a light bulb, and very likely it went UNDIAGNOSED for several months befor he arrived on campus there, but it probably had something to do with his performance.
I wish the kid well, and would never have wanted it to turn out the way it did, but oddly, the evidence WAS there that something was wrong.

Now I am saying something doesn't quite look right with Lawson and P'Allen. Something funny going on.
Why are supposedly talented kids getting no other offers? The major recuriters are actually pretty smart people, all I am saying is something is up........



PS--- Lincoln Jay....explain this one to me..........
After Dana Altman changed his mind and came back to Creighton, an interview with P'Allen Stinnett said this........

"...........Altman had a change of plans (and returned to Creighton.)

"I was so happy that I wanted to scream," Woodfox said. "I called my mom right away, and she was happy, too."

Woodfox's elation was shared by three of the other four Bluejays recruits reached Tuesday night.
However, P'Allen Stinnett, a guard from Las Vegas, was more terse.

"I'm not doing any interviews right now," Stinnett said. "Call me in a few days."

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=1200&u_sid=2359348

So what gives.....this does not sound like a happy camper!
Do you think just maybe the signing of Woodfox and Witter is insurance against P'Allen doing something unexpected?

[LincolnJay]

P'Allen's on campus right now so I feel pretty comfortable that he's not going anywhere. A quote from Kenny Lawson in a note to Kenton Walker on Kenton's MySpace site {yes, I am a recruiting wonk}:

Apr 24 2007 7:38P

p'allen dunked on manny gakou today in pick up hella nasty haha! if that was in a game it would be on espn top 10 at like number two!

[tornado]

We'll be looking forward to it, as BU had a couple guys' dunks make the Top 10 in the past two years.

But 6-2 guys don't get a lot of chance to dunk "over" people anywhere in D-I. Unless he develops an outside shot...

[georgethedog]

P'Allen's on campus right now so I feel pretty comfortable that he's not going anywhere. A quote from Kenny Lawson in a note to Kenton Walker on Kenton's MySpace site {yes, I am a recruiting wonk}:

Apr 24 2007 7:38P

p'allen dunked on manny gakou today in pick up hella nasty haha! if that was in a game it would be on espn top 10 at like number two!

Dunk, dunk, dunk... Personally, I am sick of dunks. What does a dunk count? TWO POINTS! Two points is also what a guy who makes two free throws gets. If guys would spend more time practicing free throws and less time practicing dunks, our teams would surely be better in the long run.

[amckillip]

P'Allen's on campus right now so I feel pretty comfortable that he's not going anywhere. A quote from Kenny Lawson in a note to Kenton Walker on Kenton's MySpace site {yes, I am a recruiting wonk}:

Apr 24 2007 7:38P

p'allen dunked on manny gakou today in pick up hella nasty haha! if that was in a game it would be on espn top 10 at like number two!

Dunk, dunk, dunk... Personally, I am sick of dunks. What does a dunk count? TWO POINTS! Two points is also what a guy who makes two free throws gets. If guys would spend more time practicing free throws and less time practicing dunks, our teams would surely be better in the long run.

In general, I agree GTD. The lack of free throw shooting in basketball today is disgusting. But a big dunk is more than 2 points sometimes. My friend and I started calling some boogies dunks last season '6-pointers' because of what the did to the CA crowd, and that was worth as much as 4 points. And it continued this year with some of ZA's(what does coach corn put in that Yuba Gatorade down there?) dunks. When he slammed that ball down Carver would rock, and that can be a huge help to keep the momentum rolling or change it to your favor. Like I said ZA's free throw made me sick to my stomach, but some of those dunks he threw down were game changers.

[LincolnJay]

Think Rodney Buford.

From this season:

Brewster 90, New Hampton 60 (December 17, 2006)
Brewster jumped out to a 13-0 run to start the game and never looked back en route to a 90-60 victory over rival New Hampton School. Brewster was led by Creighton-bound P'Allen Stinnett (Las Vegas, NV) with 32 points, including 7 three-pointers. Stinnett was 11-14 from the floor for the game (7-10 from three-point land). Iowa State-signee Craig Brackins (Palmdale, CA) added 14 points and 7 rebounds, while junior Emmanuel Negedu (Kaduna, Nigeria) and Texas-bound Dogus Balbay (Istanbul, Turkey) both added 10 points. Balbay handed out a game-high 9 assists. Brewster's defense forced New Hampton into 35 turnovers. Matt Hornbuckle (Westlake Village, CA) and junior Terrell McKenzie (New York, NY) played outstanding on the defensive end for the Bobcats. Brewster improves to 11-2 on the season and will be off until January 6th, when they host MCI.

There's no getting lucky making seven 3 pointers - you can shoot or you can't. Keep trying to diss CU kids, I'll keep showing you why you're wrong.

[Rusty 54]

I don't know how anyone who watched the end of the Valley Tournament game vs. siu could put dunks above free throws

[audacious_aficionado]

I don't know how anyone who watched the end of the Valley Tournament game vs. siu could put dunks above free throws

Amen, rusty. free throws are FREE! they should be made almost every time. dunks are exciting but free throws change games whether they're in the first or second half.

[LincolnJay]

I don't know how anyone who watched the end of the Valley Tournament game vs. siu could put dunks above free throws

Amen, rusty. free throws are FREE! they should be made almost every time. dunks are exciting but free throws change games whether they're in the first or second half.

Well. CU was #15 in the nation in FT % last year out of 330 or so teams:

http://www.kenpom.com/tmleaders.php?c=FTPct

Missed a few meaningless FT's at the end of the championship game that made it a six point win instead of a 12 point win, that I agree. I'll even agree that I was annoyed by the misses.

[georgethedog]

I don't know how anyone who watched the end of the Valley Tournament game vs. siu could put dunks above free throws

Amen, rusty. free throws are FREE! they should be made almost every time. dunks are exciting but free throws change games whether they're in the first or second half.

Well. CU was #15 in the nation in FT % last year out of 330 or so teams:

http://www.kenpom.com/tmleaders.php?c=FTPct

Missed a few meaningless FT's at the end of the championship game that made it a six point win instead of a 12 point win, that I agree. I'll even agree that I was annoyed by the misses.

Might have been easy, but it didn't last long...

[bugregshu]

Think Rodney Buford.

From this season:

Brewster 90, New Hampton 60 (December 17, 2006)
Brewster jumped out to a 13-0 run to start the game and never looked back en route to a 90-60 victory over rival New Hampton School. Brewster was led by Creighton-bound P'Allen Stinnett (Las Vegas, NV) with 32 points, including 7 three-pointers. Stinnett was 11-14 from the floor for the game (7-10 from three-point land). Iowa State-signee Craig Brackins (Palmdale, CA) added 14 points and 7 rebounds, while junior Emmanuel Negedu (Kaduna, Nigeria) and Texas-bound Dogus Balbay (Istanbul, Turkey) both added 10 points. Balbay handed out a game-high 9 assists. Brewster's defense forced New Hampton into 35 turnovers. Matt Hornbuckle (Westlake Village, CA) and junior Terrell McKenzie (New York, NY) played outstanding on the defensive end for the Bobcats. Brewster improves to 11-2 on the season and will be off until January 6th, when they host MCI.

There's no getting lucky making seven 3 pointers - you can shoot or you can't. Keep trying to diss CU kids, I'll keep showing you why you're wrong.

I forgot... Bradley doesn't know anything about 3-point shooting.

[houstonbrave]

Boy this seems to have become a discussion only with blue jay fans. In fairness to Creighton they have a very good recruiting class and I believe everyone here would be very excited if we had Stinnett or Walker. They appear to be very good players with a lot of potential.

I would not, however, trade our recruiting class for theirs. I think ours addresses our needs and when combined with the two leading returning scorers in the Valley makes us a very strong contender for the crown. I think ours is also larger/deeper than their class.

So, I guess my point is that I'm very excited by our potential and I believe we will compete well and ultimately win the Valley, but Creighton has earned respect with their strong recruiting class, outstanding record over the last 10 years, and their outstanding coach(and I think they have done it with quite a bit of class).

I look forward to Bradley replacing them at the top of the Valley, but they do deserve respect until we do so. Everyone can express their opinions but I wanted to do so as well.

PS. I may be wrong Lincoln Jay but I bet when Rusty54 mentioned FT's at the end of the Valley Tournament he was referring to BU's inability to make them. If we had made a reasonable percentage at the end we would have knocked SIU off and would have faced CU in the title game.

[audacious_aficionado]

PS. I may be wrong Lincoln Jay but I bet when Rusty54 mentioned FT's at the end of the Valley Tournament he was referring to BU's inability to make them. If we had made a reasonable percentage at the end we would have knocked SIU off and would have faced CU in the title game.

yeah, after all this is a bradley fans forum.

[Rusty 54]

PS. I may be wrong Lincoln Jay but I bet when Rusty54 mentioned FT's at the end of the Valley Tournament he was referring to BU's inability to make them. If we had made a reasonable percentage at the end we would have knocked SIU off and would have faced CU in the title game.

houstonbrave is correct, I was referring to BU's missed free throws