07-08 roster

[Big Mike]

http://www.bubraves.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=19333&SPID=1498&DB_OEM_ID=3400&KEY=&Q_SEASON=2007

[BradleyBrave]

Stone Cold still needs to be added.

[Big Mike]

Note.......it's already a nice roster and Rashad Austin is yet to be added! I've never seen a team get so-big so fast!

[georgethedog]

Note.......it's already a nice roster and Rashad Austin is yet to be added! I've never seen a team get so-big so fast!

Wow, DW is listed. Hopefully this is a good sign...

[Da Coach]

When was the last time Bradley had 4 Peoria kids on the roster, (albeit that 2 are walkons), and a total of 6 from Illinois?

The breakdown by state of origin--
Illinois- 6 (4 Peoria, 1 Pekin, 1 Chicago)
Indiana- 1 (Warren)
Missouri- 1 (Singh)
Iowa- 1 (Cole-Scott)
Minnesota- 1 (Brown)
N. Carolina- 1 (Salley)
Alaska- 1 (Egolf)
Texas- 1 (Thompson)
Canada- 1 (Collins)

[Big Mike]

CALIFORNIA.............Austin!

[Da Coach]

Oops, I meant to put that in there.

The breakdown by state of origin--
Illinois- 6 (4 Peoria, 1 Pekin, 1 Chicago)
Indiana- 1 (Warren)
Missouri- 1 (Singh)
Iowa- 1 (Cole-Scott)
Minnesota- 1 (Brown)
N. Carolina- 1 (Salley)
Alaska- 1 (Egolf)
Texas- 1 (Thompson)
California- 1 (Austin)
Canada- 1 (Collins)

[BU Bill]

Here is a topic from the Missouri State board. You may need to register to see it, but it's a discussion about the recruiting classes for the MVC schools. Bradley's class looks good alongside most MVC schools, but Creighton has a good class, too.
But what I wanted to show was the 5th post down. A poster responds to another poster who commented on how Bradley can afford to recruit kids from Alaska, Texas, California, as well as Illinois. He says--
BUs recruiting budget is believed to be the largest budget in the state. Larger than Illinois, SIU, and Depaul. I'll try and get the numbers for you.

http://www.aliencommunities.net/letsgobears/forum/index.php?topic=5819.0

I can't believe this is anywhere close to the truth. Bradley's athletic budget is a fraction of a big state schools like Illinois, and being private, they don't get money from general taxpayers funds which help support some state schools athletic budgets. The state of Missouri refused to increase general revenue funds (they were already pumping millions of dollars into the athletic dept) at Missouri State to support athletics a few years ago, and as a result they had to drop a bunch of sports. So I am sure this is not factual. Anyone know where to find this data?

[Da Coach]

You are, as usual Bill, correct. The statement that Bradley's recruiting budget is the largest in the state is ridiculous. Bradley's athletic expenses and recruiting expenses are about average (they rank #170 out of 331 schools listed in recruiting budget). And it is not much different from schools that are similar to Bradley (small, private). It is much lower than most state schools, and a small fraction of what schools like Illinois spend. It is well less than Missouri State spends recruiting.

Here are some numbers from 2006 from the government's Office of Postsecondary Education. These are figures that schools are required to compile and submit to this government agency to insure fairness and compliance with Federal laws and Title IX.--

Bradley-
Total basketball budget- $1,958,422
Men's sports recruiting budget- $139,088 http://www.midmajority.com/school.php?s=BRAD

Creighton-
Men's Basketball budget- $3,129,548
Men's Sports Recruiting Exp- $108,624

http://www.midmajority.com/schools/CREI

Drake--
Men's Basketball Expenses (2006) $1,593,612
Men's Sports Recruiting Exp. (2006) $92,709

http://www.midmajority.com/schools/DRAKE

Evansville--
Men's Basketball Expenses (2006) $1,447,593
Men's Sports Recruiting Exp. (2006) $73,056

http://www.midmajority.com/schools/EVAN

Illinois State--
Men's Basketball Expenses (2006) $1,172,444
Men's Sports Recruiting Exp. (2006) $169,826

http://www.midmajority.com/schools/ILLST

Indiana State--
Men's Basketball Expenses (2006) $1,158,318
Men's Sports Recruiting Exp. (2006) $161,406

http://www.midmajority.com/schools/INDST

Missouri State--
Men's Basketball Expenses (2006) $1,281,174
Men's Sports Recruiting Exp. (2006) $187,824

http://www.midmajority.com/schools/MOST

Northern Iowa--
Men's Basketball Expenses (2006) $1,458,662
Men's Sports Recruiting Exp. (2006) $144,848

http://www.midmajority.com/schools/UNI

Southern Illinois--
Men's Basketball Expenses (2006) $1,193,823
Men's Sports Recruiting Exp. (2006)* $157,978

http://www.midmajority.com/schools/SIU

Wichita State--
Men's Basketball Expenses (2006) $2,229,801
Men's Sports Recruiting Exp. (2006) $127,348

http://www.midmajority.com/schools/WICH

Other Illinois schools--
Chicago State--
Men's Basketball Expenses (2006) $927,345
Men's Sports Recruiting Exp. (2006) $16,793

http://www.midmajority.com/schools/CHIST

DePaul--
Men's Basketball Expenses (2006) $2,800,403
Men's Sports Recruiting Exp. (2006) $87,101

http://www.midmajority.com/schools/DEP

Eastern Illinois--
Men's Basketball Expenses (2006) $603,966
Men's Sports Recruiting Exp. (2006) $80,422

http://www.midmajority.com/schools/EIU

Illinois--
Men's Basketball Expenses (2006) $3,961,099
Men's Sports Recruiting Exp. (2006) $650,283

http://www.midmajority.com/schools/ILL

Illinois Chicago--
Men's Basketball Expenses (2006) $1,563,118
Men's Sports Recruiting Exp. (2006) $104,219

http://www.midmajority.com/schools/UIC

Loyola--
Men's Basketball Expenses (2006) $1,366,593
Sports Recruiting Exp. (2006) $74,817

http://www.midmajority.com/schools/LOYO

Northern Illinois--
Men's Basketball Expenses (2006) $1,140,238
Men's Sports Recruiting Exp. (2006)* $174,461

http://www.midmajority.com/schools/NIU

Northwestern--
Men's Basketball Expenses (2006) $3,042,904
Men's Sports Recruiting Exp. (2006) $389,582

http://www.midmajority.com/schools/NW

Western Illinois--
Men's Basketball Expenses (2006) $848,109
Men's Sports Recruiting Exp. (2006) $135,589

http://www.midmajority.com/schools/WIU

[corilon]

I'm no expert on budgets and such but looking at those numbers leads me to believe that the Bradley recruiting budget for basketball may *be* the biggest in the state. All those numbers you listed show Men's ATHLETICS not basketball and with no football recruiting Bradley's budget would be considerable different from the others. Just looking at the UofI I'd say that they probably spend at least 3 to 1 on Football which puts us ahead of them on spending.

Don't get me wrong. I think this is a great thing! Just curious if I am misreading those numbers and the terminology.

Corilon

[Da Coach]

Yes, those numbers (which are the numbers that the schools are required to submit) ar recruiting budgets for the men's athletic department as a whole. I don't know that there is any way to separate out the basketball part of that

But this main premise that Bradley's basketball recruiting budget is the largest in Illinois is still fallacious. Illinois recruiting budget is so much larger than Bradley's (more than 4 times larger), that I am sure that the basketball part of that budget is still larger than Bradley's. And Bradley shouldn't be penalized just because they don't have football to spend money on.

But the other point I was trying to make is that Bradley doesn't get a dime from any state taxpayer funds. Whatever money Bradley has to spend comes from the support of their fans. So even if the do have a larger budget than some schools, it seems acceptable to me because the money is there.

One thing I didn't point out is that these numbers come from 2006, which happens to be the one year that Bradley did the most recruiting over the widest geographic area in their history. I suspect that the numbers from previous years would be much lower.

[georgethedog]

Why do we care about what some dumb*** said on the MSU board? They can think what they want, if they can think at all!

[MacabreMob]

It's information like this that gets a bunch of people's panties in a bunch. How long before Title IX supporters show inequities in spending.

[Big Mike]

This is current as of now!

http://www.bubraves.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=19333&SPID=1498&DB_OEM_ID=3400&KEY=&Q_SEASON=2007