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  • #31
    Wisky had the same thing for DW but he didn't like going to class so he left and come home to ICC where he can do what he wants to do because he doesn't like going to school.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by OrangeandBlack74
      Originally posted by dogsrus
      Originally posted by thefish7
      You can't reneg on a guy like DeAaron Williams, regardless of how good Charlie Coley is-- that's really not the point. You made your offer, he accepted and signed the LOI, now you have to stick by what you've done. Until the kid has not qualified, then you are responsible, in my opinion, to stand by your commitments.

      Anything else makes Bradley like the "just win" organizations that we criticize so often on here.
      I have to agree....coach knew what he was getting in DW. I trust they will do the right thing.
      I'm sure the coaches knew that academics would be an issue for DW.....but what they weren't expecting was ICC's failure to monitor DW's progress towards a degree. Now, it sounds like ICC is "scrambling" to make sure DW goes to class and fulfills his degree requirements.

      While I agree that BU should stand by its commitment to DW, it is under no obligation to him if he fails to meet the requirements for graduation.....so IMO there's nothing wrong with BU having a fall-back plan that includes Coley or whoever.
      Nothing wrong with a fall-back plan.... And if the kid doesn't qualify then the university doesn't owe him anything either. Point is, you can't just pull the scholarship because you want another player.
      My sports blog.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by BradleyBrave
        Originally posted by PeoriaLou
        Okay, so if CC wants to come to BU, where does the scholly come from????
        A post player that hasn't been used much in his duration at BU.
        I find this thought much more atrocious than letting DW go - DW has given nothing to the BU program except for his word that he would play there. The other player being discussed, at no fault of his own has been oft injured and has earned the right to receive the scholarship and a BU education.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by romar
          Originally posted by BradleyBrave
          Originally posted by PeoriaLou
          Okay, so if CC wants to come to BU, where does the scholly come from????
          A post player that hasn't been used much in his duration at BU.
          I find this thought much more atrocious than letting DW go - DW has given nothing to the BU program except for his word that he would play there. The other player being discussed, at no fault of his own has been oft injured and has earned the right to receive the scholarship and a BU education.
          I agree here too. Bradley shouldn't force a kid to leave... but if the player in question wanted more playing time then transferring is an option and not some kind of unethical one. So if he wants to stay you're obligated to keep him, but if he wants to play and won't be able to, you help him find a spot somewhere. I trust the staff is ethical and will stand by their commitments.
          My sports blog.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by thefish7
            Originally posted by romar
            Originally posted by BradleyBrave
            Originally posted by PeoriaLou
            Okay, so if CC wants to come to BU, where does the scholly come from????
            A post player that hasn't been used much in his duration at BU.
            I find this thought much more atrocious than letting DW go - DW has given nothing to the BU program except for his word that he would play there. The other player being discussed, at no fault of his own has been oft injured and has earned the right to receive the scholarship and a BU education.
            I agree here too. Bradley shouldn't force a kid to leave... but if the player in question wanted more playing time then transferring is an option and not some kind of unethical one. So if he wants to stay you're obligated to keep him, but if he wants to play and won't be able to, you help him find a spot somewhere. I trust the staff is ethical and will stand by their commitments.
            If it's his choice to leave (for whatever reason) then fine, let him go or even assist him in finding another fit. The thing is, he was recruited to BU and just because the style of play has changed or he has been injured and he hasn't been able to produce thus far (not saying he won't produce) you don't force a kid like that out.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by thefish7
              Originally posted by romar
              Originally posted by BradleyBrave
              Originally posted by PeoriaLou
              Okay, so if CC wants to come to BU, where does the scholly come from????
              A post player that hasn't been used much in his duration at BU.
              I find this thought much more atrocious than letting DW go - DW has given nothing to the BU program except for his word that he would play there. The other player being discussed, at no fault of his own has been oft injured and has earned the right to receive the scholarship and a BU education.
              I agree here too. Bradley shouldn't force a kid to leave... but if the player in question wanted more playing time then transferring is an option and not some kind of unethical one. So if he wants to stay you're obligated to keep him, but if he wants to play and won't be able to, you help him find a spot somewhere. I trust the staff is ethical and will stand by their commitments.
              It would be handled the same way Jassey was handled. I didn't hear anyone griping about his dismissal.
              Onward and Upward!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by BradleyBrave
                Originally posted by thefish7
                Originally posted by romar
                Originally posted by BradleyBrave
                Originally posted by PeoriaLou
                Okay, so if CC wants to come to BU, where does the scholly come from????
                A post player that hasn't been used much in his duration at BU.
                I find this thought much more atrocious than letting DW go - DW has given nothing to the BU program except for his word that he would play there. The other player being discussed, at no fault of his own has been oft injured and has earned the right to receive the scholarship and a BU education.
                I agree here too. Bradley shouldn't force a kid to leave... but if the player in question wanted more playing time then transferring is an option and not some kind of unethical one. So if he wants to stay you're obligated to keep him, but if he wants to play and won't be able to, you help him find a spot somewhere. I trust the staff is ethical and will stand by their commitments.
                It would be handled the same way Jassey was handled. I didn't hear anyone griping about his dismissal.
                It's my understanding the players meetings are complete and it was after SJ was told his role on next years team, he made the choice to leave. Not what I'd call a "dismissal". So I'd assume this other player has been told his options and has not made a similar choice.

                If those meetings are finished, and as a staff you recruit someone you think might fit your program and you then try to coerce a current player to leave, I say that's just wrong.

                I trust that JL will handle things ethically and above board.

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                • #38
                  As far as I have heard, the player mentioned has not gotten into any trouble or done anything that would suggest that he might be better off at a different school
                  Return to Glory

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by romar
                    Originally posted by BradleyBrave
                    Originally posted by thefish7
                    Originally posted by romar
                    Originally posted by BradleyBrave
                    Originally posted by PeoriaLou
                    Okay, so if CC wants to come to BU, where does the scholly come from????
                    A post player that hasn't been used much in his duration at BU.
                    I find this thought much more atrocious than letting DW go - DW has given nothing to the BU program except for his word that he would play there. The other player being discussed, at no fault of his own has been oft injured and has earned the right to receive the scholarship and a BU education.
                    I agree here too. Bradley shouldn't force a kid to leave... but if the player in question wanted more playing time then transferring is an option and not some kind of unethical one. So if he wants to stay you're obligated to keep him, but if he wants to play and won't be able to, you help him find a spot somewhere. I trust the staff is ethical and will stand by their commitments.
                    It would be handled the same way Jassey was handled. I didn't hear anyone griping about his dismissal.
                    It's my understanding the players meetings are complete and it was after SJ was told his role on next years team, he made the choice to leave. Not what I'd call a "dismissal". So I'd assume this other player has been told his options and has not made a similar choice.

                    If those meetings are finished, and as a staff you recruit someone you think might fit your program and you then try to coerce a current player to leave, I say that's just wrong.

                    I trust that JL will handle things ethically and above board.
                    It's been fairly common knowledge that Saihou Jassey was not going to be a part of this program since January. Call it what you will. If other players can't see similar writing on the wall, perhaps you need to make it clearer for them. I don't think we're doing anything unethical, but this is real life here, and people's jobs are on the line. I think getting however many years of a $30,000+ education for free is treating someone pretty well, and so is helping find them a better situation. Who's to say that BU won't do that if they need another scholarship? We'll handle this the right way for the kids and for our program.
                    Onward and Upward!

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by bu fan 9
                      Wisky had the same thing for DW but he didn't like going to class so he left and come home to ICC where he can do what he wants to do because he doesn't like going to school.
                      But Wisconsin did have some serious academic problems, and now they agree they have helped correct it.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by chitownBUB
                        Sad to see Buycks name not on the list, but it's a pretty good recruiting class anyway!

                        Bradley???‚¬?„?s 2006-07 Recruiting Class

                        Player Yr. Pos. Ht. Hometown High School Last School

                        Tyrone Cole-Scott Jr. G 5-10 Waterloo, Iowa East H.S. Tyler (Texas) J.C.

                        David Collins Jr. C 7-0 Toronto, Ontario Emery Collegiate Institute Missouri State-West Plains

                        Will Egolf Fr. F/C 6-9 Juneau, Alaska Douglas H.S. Douglas H.S.

                        Sam Maniscalco Fr. G 6-0 Chicago, Ill. St. Patrick H.S. St. Patrick H.S.

                        Anthony Thompson Fr. C 6-10 Houston, Texas Klein Forest H.S. Klein Forest H.S.

                        DeAaron Williams Jr. G/F 6-5 Peoria, Ill. Limestone H.S. Illinois Central College
                        hopefully a good year next year will keep buycks on our resume
                        WE WANT HEEMSKERK!

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by OrangeandBlack74
                          I'm sure the coaches knew that academics would be an issue for DW.....but what they weren't expecting was ICC's failure to monitor DW's progress towards a degree. Now, it sounds like ICC is "scrambling" to make sure DW goes to class and fulfills his degree requirements.
                          I would like to know what your evidence is for your accusation toward ICC? Coach Wysinger is a good friend of mine and I consider your comments out of line with what I know of him and ICC. If you have evidence of this, show it, if not quit pointing fingers! As a professor of over 10 years I have found you cannot force a student to do anything if they lack the personal desire, period.

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                          • #43
                            First of all, I hate the "Red Shirt" mantra that frequents this sight. If the intention is to "red Shirt" a freshman, that Freshman should be told in advance to his submtting an LOI.
                            That being said, if Coley wants to come to Bradley, I know of an extremely thin-underdeveloped player from Houston, who probably should "redshirt."
                            What I do not know, and I am sure you all will enlighten me, does a "red shirt" player count against your 13 scholarships?
                            If it does not, I know what I would attempt to do, if I were Coach Les.

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                            • #44
                              Yes it counts against your 13 scholarships.

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                              • #45
                                Article from Waterloo-Cedar Falls paper about their hometown kid -Tyrone Cole-Scott- playing for Bradley--

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