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    Whew! Where to begin? What a massacre today! Well, let me make my feeble attempt to try to predict who will be in.

    The are the non-BCS conferences that will field multiple bids, no matter what:

    Mountain West: BYU and UNLV, both locks.
    WAC: Nevada and the Utah St/N Mexico St winner.
    Atlantic 10: Xavier and the G Washington/Rhode Island winner.
    Horizon: Butler and Wright St
    CAA: VCU and either ODU or Drexel, but unlikely both.
    MVC: SIU, Creighton......and possibly MSU (more on this in a moment)

    If we go at 2 apiece, except for 3 from the Valley, that would be 13 bids for these six conference. This would leave 19 one bid conferences. That is 32 teams from the non-BCS conferences, which would leave 33 for the BCS boys.

    My latest calculations for the BCS conferences are as follows:

    ACC: Six at least, with Georgia Tech on the bubble.
    SEC: Four at least, but can't count out either Mississippi teams just yet.
    Big Ten: Possibly six, if Illinois and Purdue get in.
    Pac 10: Five only as Stanford lost yesterday
    Big 12: Five as Kansas St won today.
    Big East: Most likely seven, though Syracuse is on the bubble, but most likely safe.

    This would add up to exactly 33, but as one can see, there is still some wiggle room for a few teams. I can see Georgia Tech, Syracuse and Illinois being left out, as they still have some faults that could do them in on Selection Sunday. For example, will the committee believe that Illinois beating Indiana is enough considering Indiana has been slumping as of late themselves? Kentucky might not be a lock either after today's collapse!

    Interesting that Brennan and Gottlieb just now on College Gamenight both believe that Missouri St should be in over Kentucky since they both have similar credentials, but Missouri St has the better marquee win. However, both also say that Kentucky gets in ahead of Missouri St due to tradition, though Gottlieb believes that Kentucky does not deserve to be in at all. Glad to see some analysts do see things in a more realistic fashion than certain pundits, but they also are aware of the politics that will probably keep Missouri St out. I for one still think Missouri St is in, but who the heck really knows until Sunday!

    Then the question is what to do with teams like Air Force, Drexel, Bradley and Appalachan St. As one can see, a few of those BCS could still be passed over for teams like these. But after today, there is not as much wiggle room as there was at the start of the day, but still enough for a surprise or two on Sunday afternoon!

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    I love the optimism, but I just don't think it's possible. Today was too brutal as far as at-large bids go.
    Onward and Upward!

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    • #3
      syracuse shouldn't be on the bubble. i think they've done enough to get in.

      it's really funny, i've been following syracuse the past 2 yrs since my g/f graduated from there, and for the past 2 mos. everytime that syracuse won a game so did bradley, and every time the orange lost, so did the braves.

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      • #4
        Flashback--26 years ago. Syracuse won the Big East Tournament on its home floor, but FAILED to get an NCAA bid (talk about mad!). At the time, the Big East was still in the 5-year probationary period as a new league which meant that it did not receive an automatic bid for its tournament champion. Bradley played at Syracuse in the 2nd round of the NIT. The Braves had been unceremoniously dumped out the MVC semi-finals at Robertson Memorial Fieldhouse by Illinois State! Bradley did not get an at-large bid despite winning the regular season title (NCAA only took 40 teams back then).

        At Syracuse, the Braves torched the Orangemen 95-81 to advance to the NIT quarterfinals. At the time, it was the most points anyone had scored against Syracuse at the Carrier Dome, and it was also at the time, the worst loss for SU in the dome too. BU went on to win the NIT that year, and at the time had tied St. John's for the most NIT titles. The Red Storm hve since won one more title to reclaim the lead (5-4).
        "The NCAA is so upset about alleged recruiting violations at Kentucky that they decided to give Cleveland State the Death Penalty"--Jerry Tarkanian

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