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    A new NCAA rule that takes effect Oct. 15 gives a student athlete the ability to transfer to a different school and receive a scholarship without asking their current school for permission.
    Beginning in October, Division I student-athletes will have the ability to transfer to a different school and receive a scholarship without asking their current


    The previous transfer rule, which required student-athletes to get permission from their current school to contact another school before they can receive a scholarship after transfer, was intended to discourage coaches from recruiting student-athletes from other Division I schools. The rule change ends the controversial practice in which some coaches or administrators would prevent students from having contact with specific schools. Conferences, however, still can make rules that are more restrictive than the national rule.

    Additionally, the proposal adds tampering with a current student-athlete at another school to the list of potential Level 2 violations, considered a significant breach of conduct.

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    Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
    A new NCAA rule that takes effect Oct. 15 gives a student athlete the ability to transfer to a different school and receive a scholarship without asking their current school for permission.
    Beginning in October, Division I student-athletes will have the ability to transfer to a different school and receive a scholarship without asking their current


    The previous transfer rule, which required student-athletes to get permission from their current school to contact another school before they can receive a scholarship after transfer, was intended to discourage coaches from recruiting student-athletes from other Division I schools. The rule change ends the controversial practice in which some coaches or administrators would prevent students from having contact with specific schools. Conferences, however, still can make rules that are more restrictive than the national rule.

    Additionally, the proposal adds tampering with a current student-athlete at another school to the list of potential Level 2 violations, considered a significant breach of conduct.
    Ok When a school from one of the Corrupt conferences gets a player to transfer what will they do about it. They say it is breach of conduct. Ok what will he infractions be and what will they do about it. Will they enforce it? Hell they cheat now and as the FBI is finding out they did nothing

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    • #3
      I think it will make it easier for the majors to tamper, harder to police, and will lead to even more "recruiting" of mid-major kids to fill open spots at the majors. All a kid will have to do now is give their coach notice, and they can leave and transfer immediately. If a mid-major coach knows there was tampering, there is nothing they can do about it. They will no longer be able to block a kid from going to the school that tampered. And we already know its virtually impossible to prove tampering. I expect we'll see kids transferring right up until the school year starts and maybe even after.

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      • #4
        Nebraska's AD predicts further rule changes - until, I suppose, any big school can pluck any good kid from a smaller school at any time that they want to.


        In fact, I can see a time when they mandate that any good midmajor kid will be forced to "move up" by the rules -
        ....kinda like the old "Lightweight"/"Heavyweight" rule in junior high many years ago...

        I think it is telling, tho - that he still wants restrictions on kids transferring to other teams in the Big Ten --

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        • #5
          I was hoping the NCAA enforcement would get better after the FBI investigations but it is getting worse. This corruption, fueled by the Corrupt schools in the NCAA is getting worse. All the non-Corrupt schools that are in the NCAA need to band together and say enough is enough. There are more of them so majority should rule ( theatrically )

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          • #6
            The NCAA released another announcement tonight that effectively ends the discussion about altering the waiver process to allow an automatic one-time waiver for all players transferring that would have allowed any transfer to be immediately eligible-
            The Division I Council approved a resolution Wednesday that outlined its intention to adopt by January a comprehensive legislative package creating uniform, modernized rules governing eligibility after transfer for student-athletes in all sports.


            However, they approved a somewhat vaguely worded resolution to "adopt by January a comprehensive legislative package creating uniform, modernized rules governing eligibility after transfer for student-athletes in all sports." This appears to be a wider ranging overhaul of the transfer process through new legislation by the NCAA, which would replace the way the waiver committee handles waivers, which they seem to recognize is highly inconsistent and unsustainable.

            This means the current year transfers must still go through the same process as past years to be granted a waiver. Bradley and transfer Sean East will still need to apply for a waiver to play next year.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
              The NCAA released another announcement tonight that effectively ends the discussion about altering the waiver process to allow an automatic one-time waiver for all players transferring that would have allowed any transfer to be immediately eligible-
              The Division I Council approved a resolution Wednesday that outlined its intention to adopt by January a comprehensive legislative package creating uniform, modernized rules governing eligibility after transfer for student-athletes in all sports.


              However, they approved a somewhat vaguely worded resolution to "adopt by January a comprehensive legislative package creating uniform, modernized rules governing eligibility after transfer for student-athletes in all sports." This appears to be a wider ranging overhaul of the transfer process through new legislation by the NCAA, which would replace the way the waiver committee handles waivers, which they seem to recognize is highly inconsistent and unsustainable.

              This means the current year transfers must still go through the same process as past years to be granted a waiver. Bradley and transfer Sean East will still need to apply for a waiver to play next year.
              They can pass all the new rules they want but they mean nothing if they don't enforce them

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              • #8
                Based on what I have read it seems likely the NCAA will be granting waivers in greater proportion for 2020 transfers. The current process of determining who gets a waiver and who does not is subjective and resource consuming. I have no direct insight into the NCAA and suggest they may not have decided how to proceed. The wind appears to be blowing in the direction of allowing immediate eligibility for first time transfers. This is already policy for non-revenue sports and we should expect it in the near future.

                That said I believe it is more likely than not Sean East becomes eligible to play in 2020. If this is the case our backcourt will be deep and experienced, albeit with different programs. Based on Sean's film we all expect he will be in the rotation, perhaps as a starter. I don't say this lightly as I have heard from a few who watch the Braves practice our two transfer guards are very talented

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                • #9
                  I wouldn't be surprised to see Kingsby starting, at least early in the year. He had some good games when Brown was not able to play. Also, it will be hard to keep Ville out of the lineup. However, Ville's talents might be better used off the bench as a scorer with the so-called second lineup.

                  It may come down to Wardle wanting to get certain players experience playing with different lineups.

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                  • #10
                    Though Sean East stands a good chance at getting a waiver, it is not a given. The latest statement from the NCAA basically said the waiver process would continue for the class of 2020-21 the same as it has in the past with the NCAA Transfer Waiver Working Group evaluating and deciding on a case-by-case basis. The NCAA leadership admits that that system is flawed and highly inconsistent as well as "unsustainable", and they are dedicated to a change in the transfer rules instead on relying on innumerable waiver requests every year. But change will not come until some time after the first of the year when they hope to "adopt by January a comprehensive legislative package creating uniform, modernized rules governing eligibility after transfer for student-athletes in all sports."

                    I agree with you LongTimeFan, if Sean doesn't receive a waiver, then Danya will almost certainly start and play a lot of point guard. Even if Sean gets a waiver, Danya will probably play some point guard, but who starts is a bigger unknown, especially with Nolan and McAdoo ready to join the lineup. Next year's team will be the deepest team we have had in a long time, and it's not even close. Barring injuries and waiver denial, it could be the deepest team since Dick Versace's teams in the 1980's, and Molinari's teams of the mid-90's.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                      Barring injuries and waiver denial, it could be the deepest team since Dick Versace's teams in the 1980's, and Molinari's teams of the mid-90's.
                      Wow, that's quite a statement, and I couldn't agree more. I am very excited about this upcoming season!
                      Larry Bird
                      I've got a theory that if you give 100 percent all of the time, somehow things will work out in the end.

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                      • #12
                        We will hope Wardle is able to mold them into a cohesive unit utilizing their individual skills in a team environment . Wardle has been able to do this in the past. Unfortunately the team is not able to practice and hang out together this summer. I'm not sure what Illinois governor has established as a timeline for those type of activities.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by LongTimeFan View Post
                          We will hope Wardle is able to mold them into a cohesive unit utilizing their individual skills in a team environment . Wardle has been able to do this in the past. Unfortunately the team is not able to practice and hang out together this summer. I'm not sure what Illinois governor has established as a timeline for those type of activities.
                          Yes, Wardle and the other coaches have done this as well as anyone in the MVC.

                          The NCAA is allowing colleges to open gyms and allow voluntary workouts starting June 1. So then it's up to how this fits with the state's regulations.
                          The Illinois governor is allowing the state to move to Phase 3 of reopening on May 29. Phase 3 allows "non-essential" business to reopen with precautions, and also allows- "gatherings of 10 people or fewer... with this limit subject to change based on latest data & guidance". And it allows educational facilities to reopen "summer programs with IDPH approved safety guidance".
                          So, it's not clear exactly how those state regulations apply specifically to college summer activities, but I think we will see athletes on campus soon for the summer.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
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                            The NCAA is allowing colleges to open gyms and allow voluntary workouts starting June 1.

                            ....but I think we will see athletes on campus soon for the summer.
                            Here is more good news-
                            Bradley sent out a press release this afternoon saying that the men’s and women’s basketball teams will be allowed to return to campus for voluntary individual workouts starting as soon as June 8. They have created a 3-phase plan which follows the recommendations of the CDC, Illinois Department of Public Health, NCAA and other organizations, and "will be supervised by Bradley Athletics healthcare providers and updated as needed in compliance with federal, state, local and institutional regulations and guidelines,”.
                            https://www.bradleyscout.com/sports/...arting-june-8/

                            Phase 1- all coaches, athletes and staff will be educated on proper hygiene and the elements of the plan, and will have to complete a symptom and travel history questionnaire before returning to campus. Once a person is cleared to return to campus, they will be monitored daily by the medical staff through the questionnaire and temperature checks. COVID-19 tests will be administered based on physician recommendations. Workouts during phase one of the plan would be scheduled on an individual basis.

                            Phase 2- voluntary workouts with no more than five athletes at a time. Phase 2 is tentatively scheduled to begin on June 22. Other elements of the plan are scheduled to be initiated as criteria are met.

                            Phase 3- would begin lifting restrictions and progress toward a return to normal

                            Dave Reynolds reports that likely the only Bradley men's player who would not return to campus when things open up would be Ville Tahvanainen. He is fulfilling a military obligation in Finland.
                            https://www.pjstar.com/sports/20200528/bradley-basketball-players-allowed-back-for-campus-workouts-june-8

                            As of now, this summer plan would only involve men's and women's basketball players, but Bradley will continue to evaluate plans for other athletes. Fall sports athletes are expected to return to campus in August, prior to the start of the academic year.

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