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  • #16
    Originally posted by The Old Guy View Post
    The following is not my opinion, but what was conveyed to me by President Abegg.
    Dick Versace was fired because of his recruiting activities and his attitude when Bradley was called to appear before the NCAA. Had he admitted that he had made an error in judgment with some of his recruiting and would definitely clean up the recruiting, he might have survived. He did not, but retained his arrogant attitude. Had Bradley had a president with less integrity (thankfully we did NOT), the outcome might have been different. Had Bradley been Kentucky or North Carolina, the outcome might also have been different.
    At that time we were like Kentucky and North Carolina, 32-3. Winners and packed houses. Arrogant is an opinion. Some call it winners.
    What part of illegal don't you understand?

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    • #17
      that was 30+ years ago and in the interval, Dick Versace has had his detractors but for the most part he has proven himself honest, competent, capable and smart....all traits that the big boys in the NCAA do not like for small schools & their coaches to have. I think time has spoken & said that NCAA was wrong, the Bradley admin was wrong and sadly, they kept making the exact same bad mistakes in the late 80's, the early 2000's, and again in 2011.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by tornado View Post
        that was 30+ years ago and in the interval, Dick Versace has had his detractors but for the most part he has proven himself honest, competent, capable and smart....all traits that the big boys in the NCAA do not like for small schools & their coaches to have. I think time has spoken & said that NCAA was wrong, the Bradley admin was wrong and sadly, they kept making the exact same bad mistakes in the late 80's, the early 2000's, and again in 2011.
        AMEN!!!!!

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        • #19
          Mistakes of the early 2000's? Like the hiring of Jim Les and the subsequent Sweet 16 appearance (the finest Bradley NCAA finish of the modern era)? Those mistakes? If replacing a coach with Jim Les was a mistake, give me more.

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          • #20
            well, I knew I might find some objection there, but didn't Coach Mo get assurance he would not be fired, then days later - was fired....that is a version that I have heard from a pretty good source.

            As some fallout from that - a massive amount of talent that was sitting right there on Bradley's bench, left & went elsewhere...and some of the talent that was there underperformed...
            Danny Granger, Tucker, Tisby, Suggs and a couple kids Mo was working on for the subsequent year

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            • #21
              Danny Granger stayed long enough to play for Les. Was Suggs a loss? Tucker transferred to UWM to be with a girlfriend. And, no, Molinari was never given any assurance that he would be retained (And I have a pretty good source, too).

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Prexy IX View Post
                Danny Granger stayed long enough to play for Les. Was Suggs a loss? Tucker transferred to UWM to be with a girlfriend. And, no, Molinari was never given any assurance that he would be retained (And I have a pretty good source, too).
                granger stayed for awhile, but not long.
                What part of illegal don't you understand?

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                • #23
                  He may have thought that the National Anthem was going to be played more than once a night.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Prexy IX View Post
                    He may have thought that the National Anthem was going to be played more than once a night.
                    And didn??™t think he had to be on time to catch the team bus.
                    What part of illegal don't you understand?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Prexy IX View Post
                      Danny Granger stayed long enough to play for Les. Was Suggs a loss? Tucker transferred to UWM to be with a girlfriend. And, no, Molinari was never given any assurance that he would be retained (And I have a pretty good source, too).
                      but my point was that with Granger, Tucker, Tisby, Gullingham, Gilbert, etc..Bradley was almost certainly poised to have very good years in 2002-03 and 2003-04 - instead we had to go thru a bit of a rebuild, you'd have to admit..

                      and I suspect you do "have a good source", but my "source" was "there" as well and was of the opinion Mo was secure, so must have been misunderstanding

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by tornado View Post
                        ... but Abegg wanted to distance himself from Versace...He was NOT fired as has commonly been stated.
                        It was no secret at the time that Versace and Abegg never got along. Abegg was looking for any reason to fire Versace (just like Glasser with Les) and Dick served up his reason on a silver platter. University Presidents almost always win out in the end.
                        The True Gentleman is the man whose conduct proceeds from good will and an acute sense of propriety, and whose self-control is equal to all emergencies... - John Walter Wayland

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by PhiAlphaBoy View Post
                          It was no secret at the time that Versace and Abegg never got along. Abegg was looking for any reason to fire Versace (just like Glasser with Les) and Dick served up his reason on a silver platter. University Presidents almost always win out in the end.
                          His detractors always say that, but never give a reason.
                          What part of illegal don't you understand?

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                          • #28
                            The Mo firing also caused a Mo assistant to go to UNM where he (illegally) continued texting Granger and lured him away.

                            Love Mo to death and would have loved to see what he could have done with all that talent -- future NBA all star, Horizon League POY -- but if he stays we likely don't get Buescher on board and the Sweet 16 with Sommerville, Ruffin, POB.
                            BRADLEY BASKETBALL
                            -2 NCAA Title Games
                            -3 NCAA Elite Eights
                            -4 NCAA Sweet 16s
                            -4 NIT Championships

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Mikovio View Post
                              The Mo firing also caused a Mo assistant to go to UNM where he (illegally) continued texting Granger and lured him away.

                              Love Mo to death and would have loved to see what he could have done with all that talent -- future NBA all star, Horizon League POY -- but if he stays we likely don't get Buescher on board and the Sweet 16 with Sommerville, Ruffin, POB.
                              Close...It wasn't texting, it was dozens of illegal phone calls from Broussard and McKay (at least 42 documented illegal phone calls, and that is just the ones that were found). Those phone calls were uncovered by the Albuquerque Tribune through a Freedom of Information Act filing, since their coaches used official University cell phones. Recall that both McKay and Broussard had denied contacting Granger until the cell phone records revealed dozens of illegal calls made to him, his father, and his old high school coach. Then McKay changed his story and admitted he and Broussard had made the calls, but claimed that they were just innocent calls to express birthday greetings, etc.

                              Check out this summary of what happened. Unfortunately, this is a post from 12+ years ago and some of the links no longer work-


                              But I wouldn't put any blame on those who fired Mo. That was on Broussard and McKay.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Chico View Post
                                His detractors always say that, but never give a reason.
                                I love Dick Versace and don't care to list some of the reasons since it might make him look bad. I will say that Dick's ego didn't play well with Abegg. Versace had the best parking space on campus and walked around as if he were the King of the campus (he was, lol)... He did what he wanted, when he wanted and didn't give a flip how that might make his boss look.
                                The True Gentleman is the man whose conduct proceeds from good will and an acute sense of propriety, and whose self-control is equal to all emergencies... - John Walter Wayland

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