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    3 basketball players accused of rape - incident occurred in 2015, and altho the players are not currently being named, none of the players is still in school...
    In a lawsuit, a student says Michigan State subjected her to a "hostile educational environment" and failed to provide protection, instruction or adequate support after she told counselors in 2015 that three basketball players raped her.

  • #2
    Originally posted by tornado View Post
    3 basketball players accused of rape - incident occurred in 2015, and altho the players are not currently being named, none of the players is still in school...
    http://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_...ly-support-her
    This is what happens at Corrupt schools when things get swept under the rug

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    • #3
      btw- there is an ongoing case of 3 football players charged with rape..
      The three former MSU football players facing sexual assault charges in East Lansing have waived their rights to preliminary exams. The case will now…

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      • #4
        The Michigan State news is very bad, I would agree. But a Bradley student was murdered near the campus over the weekend and that doesn't get mentioned here?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Prexy IX View Post
          The Michigan State news is very bad, I would agree. But a Bradley student was murdered near the campus over the weekend and that doesn't get mentioned here?
          The Bradley student is part of the general student population and the perpetrator was not a student. At Michigan they were atlhletes, basketball and football. This board is about sports.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Prexy IX View Post
            The Michigan State news is very bad, I would agree. But a Bradley student was murdered near the campus over the weekend and that doesn't get mentioned here?
            Actually it was posted here early Sunday, as soon as the news broke-

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            • #7
              My mistake, didn't see it. Although the story was kind of buried here given the magnitude of the potential impact on future enrollment and budget. The Chicago Tribune carried a story Monday with the headline, "Bradley Student Murdered Near Campus". Not good for anybody now or in the future.

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              • #8
                Absolutely NOT good - but sadly (and I am NOT blaming the victim) if students make terrible choices, go to seedy places OFF CAMPUS in neighborhoods that are known to have crime & violence, then stay at parties with drugs, gang members, weapons, etc... until 2am - I cannot see any way in which BRADLEY or any of their resources or their enforcement capabilities could possibly be held responsible.

                There have been MULTIPLE shootings -
                of DePaul students,
                of NIU studnets,
                of Loyola students,
                of University of Illinois students,
                Chicago State shootings,
                Lewis University,
                SIU & SIUE students,
                ISU students shot & killed -- and I could go on and on....
                ..and most of those happened just within the past year and right on or near their campus!!

                I am not downplaying the shooting at Bradley but the students MUST be warned and must HEED those warnings to stay on or near campus --
                the old rule we've seen here many times - bad things seem to always happen at parties after 1am
                Last edited by tornado; 04-10-2018, 12:21 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by tornado View Post
                  Absolutely NOT good - but sadly (and I am NOT blaming the victim) if students make terrible choices, go to seedy places OFF CAMPUS in neighborhoods that are known to have crime & violence, then stay at parties with drugs, gang members, weapons, etc... until 2am - I cannot se any way in which BRADLEY or any of their resources or their enforcement capabilities could possibly be held responsible.

                  There have been MULTIPLE shootings -
                  of DePaul students,
                  of NIU studnets,
                  of Loyola students,
                  of University of Illinois students,
                  Chicago State shootings,
                  Lewis University,
                  SIU & SIUE students,
                  ISU students shot & killed -- and I could go on and on....
                  ..and most of those happened just within the past year and right on or near their campus!!

                  I am not downplaying the shooting at Bradley but the students MUST be warned and must HEED those warnings to stay on or near campus --
                  the old rule we've seen here many times - bad things seem to always happen at parties after 1am

                  Off campus houses are something that a large majority of students live in now-a-days. I wouldn't consider Bradley Ave and Western FAR off campus. It is a few blocks and when I was a student I knew guys who had a house right over there. Bradley police do patrol that area as they sit in the elementary school there and write tickets. So yes, it was off campus, but the police monitor much more than the 84 acres that is "campus". It is Bradley police that break up the "off campus" keggers, they should've had there eye on the house when there were posts on social media advertising the party.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Crusenswings View Post
                    Off campus houses are something that a large majority of students live in now-a-days. I wouldn't consider Bradley Ave and Western FAR off campus. It is a few blocks and when I was a student I knew guys who had a house right over there. Bradley police do patrol that area as they sit in the elementary school there and write tickets. So yes, it was off campus, but the police monitor much more than the 84 acres that is "campus". It is Bradley police that break up the "off campus" keggers, they should've had there eye on the house when there were posts on social media advertising the party.
                    What elementary school is near there? How do you know they didn??™t have their eye on the house?
                    What part of illegal don't you understand?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Crusenswings View Post
                      Off campus houses are something that a large majority of students live in now-a-days. I wouldn't consider Bradley Ave and Western FAR off campus. It is a few blocks and when I was a student I knew guys who had a house right over there. Bradley police do patrol that area as they sit in the elementary school there and write tickets. So yes, it was off campus, but the police monitor much more than the 84 acres that is "campus". It is Bradley police that break up the "off campus" keggers, they should've had there eye on the house when there were posts on social media advertising the party.
                      I know they patrol that area, but they cannot possibly know what's going on inside any of those houses nor can they enforce any behavior inside of a private residence. Until shots rang out, there wasn't a single thing the Bradley police could have possibly done even if they had 2 cars cruising that block all night.

                      The house in question is the last house on Bradley Avenue before you hit Western Ave. The next house has a Western Ave. address. So this is three full blocks west of any property that is owned by Bradley. Swords Hall is 1501 W. Bradley and the shooting was at 1821 W. Bradley - nearly four blocks away.


                      Originally posted by Chico View Post
                      What elementary school is near there?
                      Whittier Primary School is a little over 2 blocks east of where the shooting took place (1619 W. Fredonia)

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                      • #12
                        I know what school they were talking about. I just didn??™t like the dig at the police giving tickets while sitting in the school lot. The school isn??™t so close that they could see that house on Bradley.
                        What part of illegal don't you understand?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by tornado View Post
                          I know they patrol that area, but they cannot possibly know what's going on inside any of those houses nor can they enforce any behavior inside of a private residence. Until shots rang out, there wasn't a single thing the Bradley police could have possibly done even if they had 2 cars cruising that block all night.
                          Exactly, there is really nothing the police could have done to prevent this. There are parties every weekend with nothing newsworthy happening. I know the police have been tight lipped about the details but it seems the non-student was targeted and the Bradley student just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. I highly doubt the shooter was a Bradley students. If you look up the non-student's name he has quite an arrest record such as (AGGRAVATED ASSAULT/USE DDLY WEAP/RIFLE,MOB ACTION/VIO TO PERSON/PROP,AGGRAVATED BATTERY,RESIST/OBSTRUCT OFFICER,DISORDERLY CONDUCT). Why was he at a party with Bradley students I don't know. I expect details to come out soon. Things like this are why the students are generally careful around "townies" as they call them. But this is obviously not a good look for Bradley and Peoria as a whole to have a student murdered right off campus.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BUfan17 View Post
                            ...this is obviously not a good look for Bradley and Peoria as a whole to have a student murdered right off campus.
                            the newspaper writes a column about how often Bradley students get shot & killed......

                            1947!!!!!!!! That is how far they have to go back to find the last one!!
                            The only other one in all of history - and I just noted above how often murders happen on or near other college campuses.....

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by tornado View Post
                              Absolutely NOT good - but sadly (and I am NOT blaming the victim) if students make terrible choices, go to seedy places OFF CAMPUS in neighborhoods that are known to have crime & violence,
                              This was the line that confused me. The residence the shooting happened at is in the neighborhood that houses campus. Its not technically "campus" but it's like saying Depaul is in Lincoln Park except Lincoln Park is much bigger. It's not like the student ventured down the hill.

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