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  • 2018 Missouri Valley/Mountain West Challenge

    one of the CBSSports writers has reported that Loyola will be matched up vs. Nevada in next season's MVC/MWC Challenge... *

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    Doug Elgin states that this is the final year for the MVC/MWC Challenge

    "the MVC is exploring more opportunities for a challenge series.."

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    • #3
      since our league plays the Challenge against the Mountain West
      I thought this would be of interest....

      the Mountain West Preseason Poll - our opponent New Mexico picked a strong 3rd

      1. Nevada (18 ) 207

      2. SDSU (1) 188

      3. New Mexico 153

      4. Boise State 139

      5. Fresno State 138

      6. UNLV 122

      7. Wyoming 88

      8. Colorado State 80

      9. Utah State 78

      10. Air Force 42

      11. San Jose State 19

      All-conference team: Caleb Martin (Nevada), Cody Martin (Nevada), Jordan Carolina (Nevada), Deshon Taylor (Fresno State) and Justin James (Wyoming).

      Player of the year: Caleb Martin (Nevada)

      Freshman of the year: Jordan Brown (Nevada)

      Newcomer of the year: Vance Jackson (New Mexico)

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      • #4
        ESPN's Jeff Goodman reports that the Mountain West is looking for a different "Challenge" arrangement
        and says the A-10 seems most realistic

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        • #5
          there is a report that the Mountain West will set up a challenge series vs. the A-10...
          Maybe they were looking for weaker competition - the historically top A-10 teams (Dayton, Rhode Island, UMass, Davidson, George Mason, St. Bonaventure, VCU) - all buried deep in the middle of the pack in their Preseason Poll this year

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          • #6
            Originally posted by tornado View Post
            there is a report that the Mountain West will set up a challenge series vs. the A-10...
            Maybe they were looking for weaker competition - the historically top A-10 teams (Dayton, Rhode Island, UMass, Davidson, George Mason, St. Bonaventure, VCU) - all buried deep in the middle of the pack in their Preseason Poll this year
            More evidence that the MWC-MVC Challenge will not be renewed. The MWC approved going ahead with the proposed annual MWC-Atlantic 10 Challenge, and all it needs now is approval by the Atlantic 10. It seems unlikely the MWC would want to renew it's Challenge with the MVC if they are also committed to a series with the A-10.-
            https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/sta...76597439307776

            The MWC-MVC Challenge began in 2009 and the initial agreement ran for four years, 2009-2012. It was not renewed beyond the 2012-13. However, it was revived in 2015 for what was then described as another 4-year agreement. 2018 will be the 4th year of the present agreement, so unless the agreement was quietly extended, it appears this may be the final year.

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            • #7
              I don't see why the MWC couldn't or wouldn't do both. The B1G has challenges with the ACC and Big East. I would think the Valley teams they play are better than their replacements, but maybe they don't want to be overly taxed.

              If they don't the MVC should look to the WCC or MAC (assuming the bottom 2 teams are left out) or maybe CUSA (again, assuming without bottom 4 teams). Top midmajors need each other more than ever before, with P5 schedules filling up.
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              -2 NCAA Title Games
              -3 NCAA Elite Eights
              -4 NCAA Sweet 16s
              -4 NIT Championships

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                ...so unless the agreement was quietly extended, it appears this may be the final year.
                no, MVC Commissioner Doug Elgin has stated on multiple occasions since last June that the MWC/MVC Challenge was not going to extend beyond 2018-19 and that this was the final year...
                ...of course there's no reason the series couldn't pick up again somewhere down the road but now that the MWC is dealing with the A-10 it would be less likely for a few years.

                But I like Mikovio's idea - maybe a 3-way deal can have each school from the MWC, MVC, and A-10 pair up and play an opponent from each of the other two - such that every school in the three best mid-major conferences gets TWO quality opponents! Plus there would be two separate Challenge Series for each school and also an OVERALL 3-way Challenge Champion!


                In a July interview he said:
                "MVC-MWC Challenge:
                As it enters year four of a four-year contract, Elgin explained that due to a
                scheduling conflict with the Mountain West’s conference tournament in 2019,
                the MVC-MWC Challenge will not be immediately renewed. However, Elgin
                described the challenge series between the conferences as a success."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                  More evidence that the MWC-MVC Challenge will not be renewed. The MWC approved going ahead with the proposed annual MWC-Atlantic 10 Challenge, and all it needs now is approval by the Atlantic 10. It seems unlikely the MWC would want to renew it's Challenge with the MVC if they are also committed to a series with the A-10.-


                  The MWC-MVC Challenge began in 2009 and the initial agreement ran for four years, 2009-2012. It was not renewed beyond the 2012-13. However, it was revived in 2015 for what was then described as another 4-year agreement. 2018 will be the 4th year of the present agreement, so unless the agreement was quietly extended, it appears this may be the final year.
                  The Mountain West-MVC Challenge was in effect from 2009-2012 and again from 2015-2018. The Mountain West then did not want to renew, and instead agreed with the Atlantic-10 Conference on a similar MWC-A10 Challenge that was to begin last season (2020-21). However, the inaugural MWC-A10 Challenge was cancelled due to Covid. But now there are reports that the Mountain West does not want to participate in the Challenge this coming season (2021-22), and wants out of the agreement.

                  So maybe the new commissioner of the Missouri Valley, Jeff Jackson, can work out some kind of challenge between the MVC and Atlantic-10. That seems to make more sense anyway, that the MWC-A10 Challenge. There would be far less travel involved, and there is the possibilities of some better rivalries with a couple A10 teams (St. Louis and Dayton).

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