NCAA Selection Committee - new things

[tornado]

This year the NCAA Selection committee considered a new formula in choosing at large teams...

every game a team plays and every win they get is graded as
Quadrant 1
Quadrant 2
Quadrant 3
or Quadrant 4 win based on where teams are "ranked" - and they don't use the straightforward RPI but a more complex system

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/bracketiq/2018-02-15/ncaa-selection-committee-adjusts-team-sheets-emphasizing

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/for-petes-sake/article203907229.html

so by BRADLEY beating Loyola (ranked #22) we picked up a QUADRANT 1 win.
Neither SIU, ISU nor Drake had any QUADRANT 1 wins - so Bradley was quite likely a higher consideration for an at-large bid (to the NIT) than ISU was.

Coach Wardle thinks that if a couple Valley teams make the jump next year and are inside the Top 75 - then we should have a chance to get multiple Quadrant 1 wins and if WE ARE Top 75 then we become a far better candidate to draw GOOD teams here for scheduled games, because it then becomes a chance for those teams to also pick up a valuable Quadrant 1 win.

We will have Dr. Reynolds on the committee next year and hopefully that will help as well!!

https://www.landof10.com/big-ten/quadrants-ncaa-tournament-2018-selection-committee-bracketology

[bradleyfan124]

However those schools from the " Corrupt 6 Conferences " do not want to schedule out of their league for fear of losing. So how can a Bradley or Illinois State pick up a win when they wont schedule you. I think the NCAA needs to put in the formula the schools from the Corrupt 6 have to schedule or they get penalized

[Da Coach]

However those schools from the " Corrupt 6 Conferences " do not want to schedule out of their league for fear of losing. So how can a Bradley or Illinois State pick up a win when they wont schedule you. I think the NCAA needs to put in the formula the schools from the Corrupt 6 have to schedule or they get penalized

You are right. The only way for the MVC teams to get extra games, especially home games, without scheduling low-majors (like Chicago State) and non-D1's is to expand the MVC by adding another couple teams. In fact, they have a committee working on doing just that in the next couple years.
But there is a flaw in that logic. The MVC is not going to be able to add Top 50 programs. Just like when they added Loyola and now Valparaiso, they will have to accept programs that are a cut below the MVC-level, and programs that draw attendance far below what the traditional MVC teams can draw. In the end, I don't see how that really benefits teams like Bradley and the other long-standing MVC teams.
In the case of Loyola, and UNI in the 1990's, it took a number of years, but they eventually became solid mid-major programs. Valparaiso is still a work in progress. Still, those teams will never be the consistent Top 50 programs that would actually benefit the other MVC teams to play twice a year.

When the MVC teams "cracked the code" and figured out how to raise their RPIs 10-15 years ago, it got multiple teams in the NCAA Tournament for several years (a record 4 teams and should have been 5 in 2006). But once that happened, the NCAA changed the rules to mostly ignore the RPI and shift the emphasis on anything else that favored the big schools over the mid-majors ("eye test", non-conference SOS, overall SOS, wins over Top 50 teams, quality wins, quality road wins, Quadrant 1 record, Quadrant 2 record, losses outside the Top 100, "Team Sheets", and now the advanced analytics).

I don't see it getting any better in my lifetime, unless the FBI investigation does a whole lot more damage to the Power 5 or 6 boys.

[tornado]

However those schools from the " Corrupt 6 Conferences " do not want to schedule out of their league for fear of losing. So how can a Bradley or Illinois State pick up a win when they wont schedule you. I think the NCAA needs to put in the formula the schools from the Corrupt 6 have to schedule or they get penalized

but other teams in the 75-100 range might want to come to Bradley if we are in the 75 range because they know it will be a Quadrant-1 potential...
Later - by the end of the season, if they move up and are in the top 50 or 30, or even the top 100, it still helps because we have strengthened our schedule instead of a buy game with a 3275 team

[bradleyfan124]

You are right. The only way for the MVC teams to get extra games, especially home games, without scheduling low-majors (like Chicago State) and non-D1's is to expand the MVC by adding another couple teams. In fact, they have a committee working on doing just that in the next couple years.
But there is a flaw in that logic. The MVC is not going to be able to add Top 50 programs. Just like when they added Loyola and now Valparaiso, they will have to accept programs that are a cut below the MVC-level, and programs that draw attendance far below what the traditional MVC teams can draw. In the end, I don't see how that really benefits teams like Bradley and the other long-standing MVC teams.
In the case of Loyola, and UNI in the 1990's, it took a number of years, but they eventually became solid mid-major programs. Valparaiso is still a work in progress. Still, those teams will never be the consistent Top 50 programs that would actually benefit the other MVC teams to play twice a year.

When the MVC teams "cracked the code" and figured out how to raise their RPIs 10-15 years ago, it got multiple teams in the NCAA Tournament for several years (a record 4 teams and should have been 5 in 2006). But once that happened, the NCAA changed the rules to mostly ignore the RPI and shift the emphasis on anything else that favored the big schools over the mid-majors ("eye test", non-conference SOS, overall SOS, wins over Top 50 teams, quality wins, quality road wins, Quadrant 1 record, Quadrant 2 record, losses outside the Top 100, "Team Sheets", and now the advanced analytics).

I don't see it getting any better in my lifetime, unless the FBI investigation does a whole lot more damage to the Power 5 or 6 boys.

I think and hope the FBI investigation will make a big impact on the college basketball scene. There are more Non-corrupt colleges in the NCAA than the Corrupt colleges. The democratic majority rules process should allow the Non-Corrupt colleges to band together and force the Corrupt ones to follow the rules. In theory that should work but we know that does not always work. Look at the Mafia. They do the same thing

[Da Coach]

I think and hope the FBI investigation will make a big impact on the college basketball scene. There are more Non-corrupt colleges in the NCAA than the Corrupt colleges. The democratic majority rules process should allow the Non-Corrupt colleges to band together and force the Corrupt ones to follow the rules. In theory that should work but we know that does not always work. Look at the Mafia. They do the same thing

You are right. When there are billions of dollars at stake, honesty, fairness, and sportmanship go out the window.

Here are some colleges' revenue figures from 2016, so they have likely inflated since then. The amounts of money are staggering...

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

The top schools are all big football schools. Almost 30 schools are over $100,000,000 in revenue! This list does not include most private schools since they do not have to report their revenues publicly. That may be why Bradley is not even listed.

[tornado]

I think and hope the FBI investigation will make a big impact on the college basketball scene....

well, I think the answer can already be seen....

other than the very few assistant coaches that are named BY NAME in the FBI indictments or made obvious by details - and the one head coach whose recorded conversations indicate he knew the player was being paid $100K (Pitino)
...other than those guys - nobody else has yet been affected.
Then Pitino was replaced by his own top assistant who obviously must have also known what was going on - while Pitino is negotiating for some part of his $40 million buyout....and all those teams (Arizona, Louisville, etc) are still playing in the post-season.

Not one of the schools has yet taken even the tiniest step to either admit their staffs have cheated or to self-impose any discipline!!

Nope...this whole thing will drag out longer than the UNC academic scandals that took 15 years for the NCAA to address them, and in the end they will hand down a few penalties to a few individuals who are long gone, long graduated, or some may even be dead by then.

[bradleyfan124]

well, I think the answer can already be seen....

other than the very few assistant coaches that are named BY NAME in the FBI indictments or made obvious by details - and the one head coach whose recorded conversations indicate he knew the player was being paid $100K (Pitino)
...other than those guys - nobody else has yet been affected.
Then Pitino was replaced by his own top assistant who obviously must have also known what was going on - while Pitino is negotiating for some part of his $40 million buyout....and all those teams (Arizona, Louisville, etc) are still playing in the post-season.

Not one of the schools has yet taken even the tiniest step to either admit their staffs have cheated or to self-impose any discipline!!

Nope...this whole thing will drag out longer than the UNC academic scandals that took 15 years for the NCAA to address them, and in the end they will hand down a few penalties to a few individuals who are long gone, long graduated, or some may even be dead by then.

I am hoping you are not correct in this. I am hoping the FBI is far from being done and that it is just the tip of the iceberg. And that when they finally start to let out names all hell will break loose. Then the focus will be on the NCAA to finally uphold their charter rules

[tornado]

USA Today - article on how unfair the NCAA Selection Committee is to midmajors

https://twitter.com/ScottMGleeson/status/980186611924152321

[bradleyfan124]

USA Today - article on how unfair the NCAA Selection Committee is to midmajors
https://twitter.com/ScottMGleeson/st...86611924152321

I think and hope there are more voices demanding change than voices from the Corrupt schools. With the addition of Chris Reynolds to the selection group maybe that has started

[tornado]

I read where 80% of the people over time on that committee are tied to the power conferecnes, and the other 80% of smaller schools (the midmajors) are represented by only 20% of the committee

[bradleyfan124]

I read where 80% of the people over time on that committee are tied to the power conferecnes, and the other 80% of smaller schools (the midmajors) are represented by only 20% of the committee

I hear you. That is why the NCAA as it stands needs to change. Corruption and politics are ruining college athletics. The NCAA has become what they are supposed to be fighting. That is like asking the Costra Nostra to investigate the Mafia. Maybe start putting people on the selection committee not tied to any conference.