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More players named by FBI as having received payoffs including Wichita State and Creighton players

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  • Georgia Tech violations - Josh Pastner was head coach in 2016
    https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/sta...54920763830272

    The other name is Daryl LaBarrie, an assistant basketball coach who has since resigned (in Feb. 2018 ) - LINK

    "The NCAA found that in November 2016 - six months after his hire to join Pastner's staff -
    (Daryl) LaBarrie took a prospect (later ID'ed as 5-Star Wendell Carter who now plays for the Chicago Bulls)
    ..on an official visit and a team member (not yet identified) to a strip club and facilitated an improper recruiting contact
    with a person described in the notice as a representative of the school's athletics interest. It also found that the prospect
    and team member were provided by $300 cash, though not by LaBarrie."
    (the money was given to the recruit by Georgia Tech alum and ex-player Jarrett Jack - LINK


    One other person was involved - Ron Bell - a former close friend of Pastner and booster
    who had yet another odd scandal last year - after Pastner broke off their friendship -
    he tried to blackmail Coach Pastner - LINK - LINK - LINK

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    • I stumbled on this article from a couple years ago

      CBS Sports polled a large hunk of top coaches in NCAA Division I football (not basketball)
      and asked the coaches themselves what percent of other coaches are cheating and committing MAJOR violations..
      Almost half of those polled said a significant percent (10-20% or more) were cheating!

      22% thought up to 30% were knowingly cheating - https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...or-violations/

      ..and in the SEC - 80% of the coaches are cheating!

      Hmm...so I looked for a similar basketball study but couldn't find one...
      but a study among basketball coaches says there are a significant number of coaches cheating and that this FBI case hasn't changed that

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      • Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
        Here is another cheating scandal that only peripherally involves athletics. Wealthy people, including some celebrities bribing University officials, including athletic coaches to get their kids into exclusive schools. They are even alleged to have paid surrogates to take SAT tests for their kids, and bribed coaches to award athletic scholarships to their kids for rowing teams, badminton teams, etc., even though their kids never played those sports!
        https://tvline.com/2019/03/12/felici...-league-bribe/
        Here's a new twist to the college bribery scandal that wealthy parents were bribing their kids' way into exclusive Universities and
        landing them on athletic teams with scholarships without even trying out or being proficient at the sport...

        An extremely wealthy father from a ritzy, wealthy Boston suburb wanted to get his two kids into Harvard and on the Harvard fencing team.
        So, he arranged to BUY the head fencing coach's house, valued at about $500,000, for almost $1 million!
        Then- he never even moved in and resold the house a little over a year later for a $325,000 loss. Thus - the father essentially
        slipped the fencing coach a bribe of about half a million dollars disguised as an overpayment for the house..
        The father also "donated" $1 million to the fencing coach's "charitable foundation".

        http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/...versation.html


        Prediction - we are still just seeing the tip of the iceberg of this scandal - since lots of rich people know extremely tricky and untraceable ways
        to slip bribes to people. This case was only brought to light when another Massachusetts couple who had been pursuing the purchase of that home were aghast at the "exhorbitant offer" by the father - so they did a little digging and discovered the sleazy reason why they got outbid by $500K on the home they wanted to buy. Certainly the FBI, the NCAA nor Harvard University would have ever uncovered this on their own.

        BTW- you kinda also wonder if someone else at Harvard also got their pockets lined, since they have NOT yet fired this crooked coach,
        and have "lawyered up" and have issued a statement of complete doubletalk saying in effect that they have done nothing wrong and will always do the right thing...

        also of interest - the fencing team has two captains the past two years - one of which was the older son of this father in question.
        The other captain was an All American and one of Harvard's all time greats and Academic All American as well- but oddly the other captain who was the son in question who benefitted from the bribe - is apparently kind-of an average-at-best fencer - he was not even named All-Ivy 2nd team as a senior.

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        • Some interesting news on the FBI/college recruiting scandal....

          -there is a report that in order to land Zion Williamson, Duke & Coach Mike Krzyzewski paid "fake consulting fees" to
          Zion Williamson's mother in 2016 & 2017 - https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/06/m...er-duke-bribe/

          -FBI "closing in" on LSU for recruiting scandal - https://collegebasketball.nbcsports....ach-will-wade/

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          • another college coach choose to plead guilty and cooperate with the FBI & hope his sentence is light..
            in the college admissions bribery scandal... (the one the Hollywood big wigs are caught up in)



            Michael Center is a tennis coach at University of Texas-Austin and he took $100,000 bribe to put a kid on full TENNIS SCHOLARSHIP
            "without regard to his athletic ability"...

            but here is where the coverage ticks the heck out of me....
            The above article quotes the guy's lawyer who makes this statement - he is a "very good man who made a bad mistake."


            This crap makes me angry -- NO, it was NOT a mistake. A mistake is something you really did NOT intend to do....
            He conspired, planned and fully intended to deliberately and intentionally CHEAT in order to line his pockets
            with a WHOLE LOT OF MONEY! A mistake is when the cashier gives you the wrong change or you forget to
            pack a lunch for your kid getting on the bus to school....
            THIS IS NOT a mistake - this is greedy, intentional, anti-social, selfish criminal activity ..and I wish the newspaper would call it what it is.
            Last edited by tornado; 04-25-2019, 01:37 PM.

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            • In the FBI bribery scandal trial today, more secret FBI video recordings were played, and NCAA powerhouse programs like Duke, North Carolina, and Kentucky were mentioned on the recordings by Christian Dawkins as programs he believed were willing to play the pay-for-play game with him to land Zion Williamson-

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              • Originally posted by tornado View Post
                another college coach choose to plead guilty and cooperate with the FBI & hope his sentence is light..
                in the college admissions bribery scandal... (the one the Hollywood big wigs are caught up in)



                Michael Center is a tennis coach at University of Texas-Austin and he took $100,000 bribe to put a kid on full TENNIS SCHOLARSHIP
                "without regard to his athletic ability"...

                but here is where the coverage ticks the heck out of me....
                The above article quotes the guy's lawyer who makes this statement - he is a "very good man who made a bad mistake."


                This crap makes me angry -- NO, it was NOT a mistake. A mistake is something you really did NOT intend to do....
                He conspired, planned and fully intended to deliberately and intentionally CHEAT in order to line his pockets
                with a WHOLE LOT OF MONEY! A mistake is when the cashier gives you the wrong change or you forget to
                pack a lunch for your kid getting on the bus to school....
                THIS IS NOT a mistake - this is greedy, intentional, anti-social, selfish criminal activity ..and I wish the newspaper would call it what it is.
                I agree!!!

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                • Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                  In the FBI bribery scandal trial today, more secret FBI video recordings were played, and NCAA powerhouse programs like Duke, North Carolina, and Kentucky were mentioned on the recordings by Christian Dawkins as programs he believed were willing to play the pay-for-play game with him to land Zion Williamson-
                  https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/stat...58184122716160
                  I would think the NCAA would be totally embarrassed about this going on right under their noses but I dont think they are

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                  • One thing I keep forgetting about is all these people receiving money are required to pay taxes on that money. If they didn't then they hid money from the IRS. The IRS has a tendency to not like that. That is how they got Al Capone

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                    • Things are really getting close to Arizona head coach Sean Miller...
                      today's FBI bribery case testimony included testimony via a recorded phone call that
                      stated head coach Sean Miller had agreed to pay and "possibly already was paying,
                      $10,000 a month for Deandre Ayton, the first pick in the 2018 NBA Draft."
                      There was also discussion of paying $10K to one of their other players Rawle Alkins.
                      https://collegebasketball.nbcsports....deandre-ayton/


                      and something that may affect BRADLEY - there was also discussion about paying Allonzo Trier (and others),
                      who played against Bradley when Brian Wardle and the Braves went there early in 2015-16 (11-16-2015)

                      If they did pay Trier, then he would be declared ineligible and Arizona would forfeit that game -
                      thus Brian Wardle's record in his first season could improve from 5-27 to 6-26 !!
                      And hey, who knows, by the time this is all over we may pick up a few more wins!

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                      • Sean Miller keeps getting sucked back into this quagmire again and again with more and more evidence that he is lying and was personally deeply involved with the cash payments to his players and recruits. But he is a nice guy, he gets great talent, he wins a lot, and he makes a ton of money for Arizona and the NCAA, and that's good for everyone at Arizona and for the NCAA. So his bosses at Arizona, and the NCAA officials just keep ignoring the mounting evidence and excusing Miller's cheating.

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                        • Originally posted by tornado View Post
                          Things are really getting close to Arizona head coach Sean Miller...
                          today's FBI bribery case testimony included testimony via a recorded phone call that
                          stated head coach Sean Miller had agreed to pay and "possibly already was paying,
                          $10,000 a month for Deandre Ayton, the first pick in the 2018 NBA Draft."
                          There was also discussion of paying $10K to one of their other players Rawle Alkins.
                          https://collegebasketball.nbcsports....deandre-ayton/


                          and something that may affect BRADLEY - there was also discussion about paying Allonzo Trier (and others),
                          who played against Bradley when Brian Wardle and the Braves went there early in 2015-16 (11-16-2015)

                          If they did pay Trier, then he would be declared ineligible and Arizona would forfeit that game -
                          thus Brian Wardle's record in his first season could improve from 5-27 to 6-26 !!

                          And hey, who knows, by the time this is all over we may pick up a few more wins!
                          They vacate the win, so no one won. They don't adjust Bradley's record.

                          Same thing with WSU/Louisville in the Final Four in 2013. Louisville vacated that win, but WSU doesn't get to claim it as a win or remove the loss. It's just a no win game.

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                          • Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post

                            They vacate the win, so no one won. They don't adjust Bradley's record.

                            Same thing with WSU/Louisville in the Final Four in 2013. Louisville vacated that win, but WSU doesn't get to claim it as a win or remove the loss. It's just a no win game.
                            if the wins are "VACATED" then the opponents will not get an added win, I know that...
                            but there have been times that NCAA has ruled the games "FORFEITED" and then an additional win was added to the opponents' record.
                            I don't expect you to believe me, but if you want to see the list of games that were both forfeited and vacated, they are pretty accurately listed here
                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ege_basketball

                            as noted, there are many times that teams "GAINED FORFEITED WINS"...

                            also - you can search the official NCAA career stats site and see many teams that have wins added to their total with the notation
                            (as in the 1995 UCLA team) "
                            32-1 .970 NCAA champ; Forfeit win: Cal
                            which indicates that UCLA picked up a win in a game that Cal beat them but Cal had to forfeit 15 wins that year.

                            The Wikipedia page for the 1994-95 UCLA team shows that game on 1/28/95 as a 100-93 loss at home to Cal, but that it became a WIN due to forfeit! So it does happen. So we can hope...
                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994%E...asketball_team

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                            • Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                              ...schools .....willing to pay up to $200,000 to get Brian Bowen....
                              the one player most associated with this FBI bribery case...is Brian Bowen...who took the money and was declared ineligible by NCAA
                              so he's been playing this past year in Australia to kill a year until now and he is eligible for the NBA draft...

                              BUT how high will he get drafted...he was considered a sure one-and-done and was projected to be a lottery pick a year or two ago...

                              but in a year playing in Australia (in a division that is roughly the strength as DI basketball - since a lot of touring DI teams take exhibition trips there and play pretty even with those Australian teams) - he averaged just 6 ppg and 2 rpg!! I think he has severely hurt his chances in the Draft...

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