Clock Management

[wizard1]

The win against Delaware was terrific. A fun game to watch, we were tough inside and much more physical, very good defense,and fewer turnovers.
However, we did a terrible job of managing the game clock and shot clock in the last 3 to 4 minutes. Somehow, our kids seem totally unaware of how to manage the clock....This could cost us dearly as the season progresses.
Our coaches need to teach this and practice it. (1) Do not bring the ball upcourt fast(2) Do not allow your opponent to shoot free throws and score when the clock is not running.(3) No "thread the needle passes,(4) Do not shoot until the shot clock is in the last few seconds, (5) Always be aware of the game clock and shot clock,(6)Do not take quick/bad shots.
Our point guards must be very good at clock management and should control the offense in this area when needed. Coaches need to instill this skill in our players.
Wizard

[tornado]

a couple plays in particular..

-with just 2:14 remaining and we were up 55-49, Darrel Brown grabbed an offensive rebound giving us another 30 second shot clock
and he fired the ball out to Nate Kennell - who instantly took (and missed) a 3-pointer with 26 seconds left on the shot clock

-twice in the final minute with a 7-pt lead, we fouled them less than 10 sec into their possession, once out on the wing when a guy who was scoreless all game wasn't even in a position or a threat to score.

-between the 10-min mark and 3 min mark, when we had some chances to salt this game away...
..we missed 4 out of 5 FT attempts, a couple of which were front end of 1-and1's, when the game was a 1-2 point game and it appeared we hurried the FT's....Those are the ones that can matter the MOST - take your time!

[it's boogie time]

a couple plays in particular..

-with just 2:14 remaining and we were up 55-49, Darrel Brown grabbed an offensive rebound giving us another 30 second shot clock
and he fired the ball out to Nate Kennell - who instantly took (and missed) a 3-pointer with 26 seconds left on the shot clock

If that goes in, it would have been the dagger and we would all be saying how great it was that they weren't playing not to lose. I'll take a wide open three from one of the best shooters on the team.

I liked that they didn't play prevent defense at the end and tried to keep them under 50.

[Serbiansniper34]

If that goes in, it would have been the dagger and we would all be saying how great it was that they weren't playing not to lose. I'll take a wide open three from one of the best shooters on the team.

I liked that they didn't play prevent defense at the end and tried to keep them under 50.

I agree. There is a time and place for clock management, and i don't "love" Kennell shooting it there, but that is a WIDE OPEN three for by far the best shooter on our team that would effectively end the game had it gone in. I've seen far more games where we've pulled the ball out and ran clock too early, gotten bad shots, failed to extend the lead, and ending up blowing it late.

It can go both ways, you still have to be aggressive.

[tornado]

I don't deny - fans want to see that shot go in....
but coaches want to see him pull it out and eat the clock...
and if you are playing "what-if"......then what if that shot rebounds long and goes the other way for a basket & one - then suddenly we're one possession away from a tie game..
Thankfully they helped us with 3 missed FTs, two missed shots, 5 fouls and 2 turnovers in the next 2 minutes...

[Serbiansniper34]

I don't deny - fans want to see that shot go in....
but coaches want to see him pull it out and eat the clock...
and if you are playing "what-if"......then what if that shot rebounds long and goes the other way for a basket & one - then suddenly we're one possession away from a tie game..
Thankfully they helped us with 3 missed FTs, two missed shots, 5 fouls and 2 turnovers in the next 2 minutes...

We aren't playing what if. Hoping he makes the shot is a perfectly reasonable assumption. It is significantly more likely than a miss with a long rebound going the other way. It's not like we were up 1 with 40 seconds left. There was still a lot of time remaining. I don't think Wardle is hardly ever going to be upset with Kennell taking a wide open three.

[tornado]

...Hoping he makes the shot is a perfectly reasonable assumption. It is significantly more likely than a miss with a long rebound going the other way....

So you're saying his chance of making it is SIGNIFICANTLY more than missing?
Kennell was only 25% from the arc in the game
The shot DID miss and went the other way
We were fortunate that they obliged us by turning it back over to us....

It didn't hurt us this time, but it also didn't help. We ended up winning even tho he missed, but I think we win more comfortably if he eats the clock.

[wizard1]

Clock Management

Kennells shot was a bad "Hail Mary". He was off balance and not really in position for a good shot. The key to this whole thing is the shot and game clocks. It appeared that neither Brown or Kennell were aware of the clock situation. My point is that clock management is a key thing in many games and if we don't understand this and know how to do it, we may lose some key games that we might otherwise win. This bad decision by our guys could have cost us the game but fortunately, Delaware handed it to us with some poor shooting and bad decisions.
Wiz

[Serbiansniper34]

Wow, you are completely misconstruing what i said. Don't cherrypick my sentences and pretend i'm saying something i'm not.

You said "what if" he misses and they go the other way for a basket. I said it is significantly more likely that he makes than he misses and it goes the other way. But you say that i said it's significantly more likely he makes than misses. That's like if i go to a bar and tell a girl that i think "she's pretty ugly", but all she hears is that "shes pretty." (not that i would do that, but it gets my point across).

It didn't happen 100% the way that you described because they didn't go for a basket, they turned it back over.

It was a kickout, in-rhythm three for by far our best shooter on the team. If he makes it, the game is essentially over. It was hardly a "Hail Mary."

Kennell probably has the highest basketball IQ of anyone on the team. He knew what he was doing when he took that shot. He didn't make it and that sucks, but then you go back down and play defense and still have a chance to win. But if it does go in (as it has 46% so far this year and did 41% last year), the game is essentially over. I will take those chances.

Also, i haven't heard Wardle say anything about not liking that shot.

[lefty]

Kennells shot was a bad "Hail Mary". He was off balance and not really in position for a good shot. The key to this whole thing is the shot and game clocks. It appeared that neither Brown or Kennell were aware of the clock situation. My point is that clock management is a key thing in many games and if we don't understand this and know how to do it, we may lose some key games that we might otherwise win. This bad decision by our guys could have cost us the game but fortunately, Delaware handed it to us with some poor shooting and bad decisions.
Wiz

wiz....I thought that Kennell was set fine...no differently than the one in the first half after a rebound. It wouldn't have bothered me had he pulled it out either...I was 50-50 on the decision. Passing inside out is where you would want your 3's to come from when possible.....


It's the second game of the season and we were defending pretty well the whole game....so I give Nate a pass on that decision.....

[lefty]

a couple plays in particular..

-with just 2:14 remaining and we were up 55-49, Darrel Brown grabbed an offensive rebound giving us another 30 second shot clock
and he fired the ball out to Nate Kennell - who instantly took (and missed) a 3-pointer with 26 seconds left on the shot clock

-twice in the final minute with a 7-pt lead, we fouled them less than 10 sec into their possession, once out on the wing when a guy who was scoreless all game wasn't even in a position or a threat to score.

-between the 10-min mark and 3 min mark, when we had some chances to salt this game away...
..we missed 4 out of 5 FT attempts, a couple of which were front end of 1-and1's, when the game was a 1-2 point game and it appeared we hurried the FT's....Those are the ones that can matter the MOST - take your time!

that foul away from the basket bothered me a lot more than Nate's shot...that other foul was on a drive, which you hate to see us do but after playing it like that all game it's hard to back off for an uncontested layup ......the guys won an ugly game....I believe we will get better throughout the season

[MacabreMob]

I like attacking and going for the jugular.

Ala Ali Farokhmanesh

https://youtu.be/GiwqEz50ipY

[tornado]

wondered when someone would bring up Ali...
but that shot has been immortalized as the best bad decision ever made in the NCAA Tourney

http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2012-03-30/defeat-bonds-kansas-together

http://wgasig.blogspot.com/2010/03/ali-farokhmanesh.html

[MacabreMob]

There's the clock and there's the jugular.

I prefer the jugular.

Shoot Kennell!