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  • Potential MAJOR change in transfer rules might be coming..

    Depends on if enough of the big boys want this rule change...

    but NCAA may be heading for a vote to allow a ONE-Time transfer in basketball with immediate eligibility for any DI player.
    This would be DISASTROUS for most midmajors - which would then essentially be farm teams for the BCS schools who could cherry pick our roster at their whim.
    Seems we kinda suspected this was coming...
    In a potentially paradigm-shifting proposal, the NCAA members may vote to allow all Division-I transfers to be eligible to play immediately.

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    Some comments from coaches..

    "It would turn into one of the dirtiest recruiting periods that you've ever seen,??? Indiana coach Archie Miller"

    "Every lay up and handshake line would turn into a recruiting pitch. Every interaction with an opposing player or parent would be an opportunity to lay the groundwork for a potential move.

    ???You'll have guys talking to your players when they are in your gym,??? Miller added. ???Coaches will recruit players right after games and now you can go directly to the source, it would cripple teams and programs.???

    Could you imagine if Landry Shamet woke up in May and decided he wanted to play his final season at Kentucky?

    "I think it's ridiculous,??? Xavier??™s Chris Mack said.. ???There's a constant narrative on social media about the mass exodus of kids and how it's appalling so many kids opt to transfer,??? he added. ???So now we want to make it easier to transfer?

    One prominent high school coach (said..) on Wednesday even with the sit out rule in place he gets calls from college coaches every November and December asking if any of his former players are ready to make an early move.

    I??™ve talked to more than 25 assistant and head coaches and not one was in favor of the potential rule.

    ???It would be the wild, wild west,??? one high major assistant said.

    ???That??™s scary, man,??? another said.

    Not only would the gloves come off from a recruiting standpoint, but mid and low majors would be crushed. Are you a fan of Cinderella's in March? Consider them gone.

    The power 5 will be doing most of their recruiting off the other teams,??? Middle Tennessee State coach Kermit Davis"

    ???Recruiting on each other's campus, ridiculous,??? Davis said. ???Will bring in college coaches Wrestle Mania."


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    • #3
      Originally posted by tornado View Post
      Some comments from coaches..

      [B][I]...
      "I think it's ridiculous,??? Xavier??™s Chris Mack said.. ???There's a constant narrative on social media about the mass exodus of kids and how it's appalling so many kids opt to transfer,??? he added. ???So now we want to make it easier to transfer?
      To put this factor into perspective, this past year, there have already been 850 Division I players announce they will transfer, the vast majority of them are scholarship players-


      With 351 Division I schools, each having a maximum of 13 allowable scholarship players (note that not every school utilizes all 13 of their scholarships), that means there are about 4,500 D1 players on scholarship. And with so many of them transferring, that is almost 20% of all scholarship players or an average of 2 to 3 players from every D1 school transferring every year.

      There is little doubt that if the 1 year "sit-out" penalty is eliminated, the number of transfers would increase substantially, and they would start to include more of teams' starters and key players, and not mainly the bench players looking for more playing time. This new rule proposal would devastate college basketball, especially at the mid-major level where coaches rely mainly on 4-year players who take a couple years to start contributing significantly. So it is nice to see so many coaches voicing opposition, especially some of the coaches from the BCS schools who may actually benefit from it.

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      • #4
        College coaches are almost universally against this suggested rule change, even those who would potentially benefit from it the most.
        But that doesn't stop a few idiot sportswriters from writing columns supporting it and acting like it would be great for college sports!-


        His argument just doesn't hold water. There are very few such "transfers up" now, and I doubt it would happen very often even if such a rule was passed making them eligible immediately. The few instances when it might happen, chances are that those transfers would become backups, bench-fillers, and practice players for the remainder of their college careers. It is rare for a good mid-major player in football or basketball to become a significant player at the higher levels. nearly all of them hurt their chances of playing pro or getting NBA attention. So it would not likely benefit many players.
        Compare that with the damaging effect that would happen at smaller programs who lose star players with no forewarning, and have no chance to replace them because they would leave after the season, and leave no time for their coaches to recruit replacements. It would undoubtedly lead to an epidemic of tampering, and draw the undesirables like AAU guys, "street agents", and intermediaries into college basketball even more than they already are, much to the detriment of college basketball. Midmajor schools would become "farm teams" for the big boys who are often left with open scholarships by players leaving early for the NBA, and now they would easily be able to fill any open slots by cherry-picking off midmajors' rosters.

        When even the top coaches in college basketball, as well as the top football coaches like Nick Saban who would clearly benefit the most from such a rule change are vehemently against it, that should tell you something.

        How could anything that Gary Parrish, Jay Bilas, or any elitist media mouthpiece find to like about this rule justify the tremendous damage it would do?

        I like Dan Muller's response to Jay Bilas's rant on Twitter-
        Find all the latest college basketball news, live coverage, videos, highlights, stats, predictions, and results right here on NBC Sports.

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        • #5
          There was enough opposition that the NCAA has backed off their proposal to allow an unrestricted one time transfer.

          But now a different proposal is picking up support. This new proposal would allow players to transfer immediately if there is a coaching change, and would not require the player sitting out a year. This idea seems to have much wider support of both big school and midmajor coaches.

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          • #6
            immediate eligibility for transfers could be tied to their academic progress

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            • #7
              Originally posted by tornado View Post
              immediate eligibility for transfers could be tied to their academic progress
              https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/sta...18561120636929
              looks like this is going to pass

              If a student-athlete has a certain Grade Point Average and is on path to graduate then he will be allowed to transfer without sitting out a year.

              The specific "benchmark" GPA has not yet been decided but it is recommended that a target of 3.0 to 3.3 be chosen.
              The Division I Committee on Academics will recommend to the Transfer Working Group that four-year transfer student-athletes who meet specific grade-point average and progress-toward-degree requirements be able to compete immediately at the second school.



              I know almost everyone will hail this as a great move and fair for everybody, but it is NOT fair to the smaller schools like us, who
              have kids across the board that are great students and almost ALL of them have a 3.0 or better - thus any time one of our kids
              develops into a better-than-average player - he will instantly be a recruiting target for desperate but bigger programs like
              Illinois, Indiana, DePaul, etc.... and programs like Bradley & other mid-majors just get closer & closer to being the farm teams for the big boys.
              Or really any bigger program who loses players to the pros will be sittin on open scholarships in the spring with only transfers being the viable options to
              fill those scholarships. Note even Duke- despite having the #1 incoming recruiting class in history, is looking to nab mid-major transfers this year!!!


              Every spring is already turning into a Chinese fire drill with the big programs loading up on all the better midmajor transfers.

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              • #8
                Missouri State has recently changed things so it is now easier to transfer in and subsequently graduate -
                they have reduced the number of hours needed to graduate from Missouri State and...
                they are also broadening the number of credits that can transfer and making it more appealing for students transferring in...
                “Missouri State has always been a great value,” said President Clif Smart. “This will make us even more affordable.”

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