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  • #16
    Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
    What about when a coach intentionally lets a kid languish on the bench and never gives him a chance to play in games, even though the team is geting blown out most games?


    Well, we are two over the limit so he must feel the guys he's playing have a higher upside than the guys he's not....

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    • #17
      Originally posted by lefty View Post
      Well, we are two over the limit so he must feel the guys he's playing have a higher upside than the guys he's not....
      If true, I don't think most fans will disgree with that, as long as it leads to progresive improvement.
      What do you see improved over last year? And what improvements have there been from the start of the season to now?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
        If true, I don't think most fans will disgree with that, as long as it leads to progresive improvement.
        What do you see improved over last year? And what improvements have there been from the start of the season to now?


        I stated that in another thread...3 point % is better, ft % is better, We have to rank in the conference better in shooting percentage defense than last year...we are 4th in rebounding margin, 4th in 3 pt% shooting...those all have to be better than last year....


        The assist/turnover situation might be worse though if that's possible...but in a lot of the conference stats we are better than last year.......

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        • #19
          Coach expectations

          I like to add my two cents! I am a BU alum and a fan for over fifty years. It just so happens I have lived in Wisconsin near Greenbay. In this area YOU are a Packer fan and a UWGB fan! All TV announcements come out of Greenbay, therefore you know what is going on with the two teams. I had the chance to listen about the players of UWGB and Coach Wardle and he was well respected as a coach in the short time he was here! I was happy he went to Bradley.
          I read many of your blogs and feel your frustration but I do believe you are a little premature. If I were to falt Wardle it would be his effort to put together a team with only overseas players. Too many. Not that good. However, with the upcoming American players I feel that next year will be the turn around everone is waiting for and it will only get Better!
          Be positive, look down the road for what is coming and don't short change the Coach, He will come through!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by tlotrains View Post
            I like to add my two cents! I am a BU alum and a fan for over fifty years. It just so happens I have lived in Wisconsin near Greenbay. In this area YOU are a Packer fan and a UWGB fan! All TV announcements come out of Greenbay, therefore you know what is going on with the two teams. I had the chance to listen about the players of UWGB and Coach Wardle and he was well respected as a coach in the short time he was here! I was happy he went to Bradley.
            I read many of your blogs and feel your frustration but I do believe you are a little premature. If I were to falt Wardle it would be his effort to put together a team with only overseas players. Too many. Not that good. However, with the upcoming American players I feel that next year will be the turn around everone is waiting for and it will only get Better!
            Be positive, look down the road for what is coming and don't short change the Coach, He will come through!


            I have found all Packer fans to be really nice people


            Thanks for the comments.....
            Last edited by lefty; 01-28-2017, 06:39 PM.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by lefty View Post
              I have found all Packer fans to really nice people


              Thanks for the comments.....
              Sure we are.
              What part of illegal don't you understand?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by lefty View Post
                I stated that in another thread...3 point % is better, ft % is better, We have to rank in the conference better in shooting percentage defense than last year...we are 4th in rebounding margin, 4th in 3 pt% shooting...those all have to be better than last year....


                The assist/turnover situation might be worse though if that's possible...but in a lot of the conference stats we are better than last year.......

                I have already commented a few times that the improvement in shooting has been the most pleasant surprise we've seen this season (although FT% is actually down slightly, not up) but any benefit from the better shooting has been negated by the terrible turnover percentages (ranking near the bottom of D1) as well as several other areas that have improved little or none-
                Bradley still ranks 9th in scoring, 8th in scoring defense, 10th in scoring margin, 8th in FT%, 10th in turnovers, 8th in assists, 8th in steals, and the most important category- we are sitting in the 8th spot and there are only 2 MVC teams with a worse record.

                The most frequent complaint I hear from fans is that we have not improved enough in many areas, and we make many of the same mistakes every game. I know the defenders will say the coaches haven't had time to recruit their own players, but in fact, everyone but Donte Thomas was recruited by this staff. And not a single one of the 6 returning players from least year's team has shown statistically measurable improvement.

                Again, I have not seen a single fan calling for coaching changes, and fans will be patient. But IMO it is fair for fans to point out areas of concern, especially since many are paying jacked-up ticket and maintenance prices to watch the games.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                  What about when a coach intentionally lets a kid languish on the bench and never gives him a chance to play in games, even though the team is geting blown out most games?
                  Clear sign the kid is not part of the future. I am more talking about last year when all of those guys left after he was hired. Maybe I am remembering it wrong but weren't there several?

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                  • #24
                    So we're at the halfway point of the Valley season...what are your expectations for the final 9 games??

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                    • #25
                      Here are the remaining 9 MVC games (5 home games, 4 road games)-
                      1/29- Home vs. Wichita State
                      2/1- at Southern Illinois
                      2/4- Home vs. Drake
                      2/8- Home vs. Indiana State
                      2/11- at Illinois State
                      2/15- at UNI
                      2/18- Home vs. Evansville
                      2/22- Home vs. Missouri State
                      2/25- at Drake

                      What kind of record do people think Bradley will have over these 9 games?
                      Currently, Bradley's 3 MVC wins are against the only other 3 MVC teams with losing records.

                      IMO, I do not see BU winning vs. WSU, at ISU, or at UNI.
                      I think the home games vs. Drake, INSU, and UE are very winnable.
                      And the other 3 games at SIU, at Drake, and home vs. MSU could be potentially winnable if Bradley plays their best, but they will be underdogs.

                      My guess is 3-6 with wins against DU, UE, and Drake at home.

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                      • #26
                        I think i predicted 6-12 record in conference before the year started. I'd be happy with that in year 2

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                          I have already commented a few times that the improvement in shooting has been the most pleasant surprise we've seen this season (although FT% is actually down slightly, not up) but any benefit from the better shooting has been negated by the terrible turnover percentages (ranking near the bottom of D1) as well as several other areas that have improved little or none-
                          Bradley still ranks 9th in scoring, 8th in scoring defense, 10th in scoring margin, 8th in FT%, 10th in turnovers, 8th in assists, 8th in steals, and the most important category- we are sitting in the 8th spot and there are only 2 MVC teams with a worse record.

                          The most frequent complaint I hear from fans is that we have not improved enough in many areas, and we make many of the same mistakes every game. I know the defenders will say the coaches haven't had time to recruit their own players, but in fact, everyone but Donte Thomas was recruited by this staff. And not a single one of the 6 returning players from least year's team has shown statistically measurable improvement.

                          Again, I have not seen a single fan calling for coaching changes, and fans will be patient. But IMO it is fair for fans to point out areas of concern, especially since many are paying jacked-up ticket and maintenance prices to watch the games.


                          My stats and rankings were conference only games....not season totals....

                          I understand....we have watched bad basketball for way too many years so I think many fans have lost their patience and I get that too and that's their choice. The previous administration made some terrible decisions that created much of this and bad basketball created the rest. Wardle scraped players nobody else wanted the first year so anything that we get from any of those guys going forward is a plus. The conference stats say this team is better than last year and has made improvements........I mentioned that assist/turnovers is the worst and needs significant improvement to be successful. If we win the 6 conference games that would double our conference win total....like it or not, realistically we have to give Wardle a good 4 years to see how we can do....

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                            What about when a coach intentionally lets a kid languish on the bench and never gives him a chance to play in games, even though the team is geting blown out most games?
                            If it's a player the coach recruited it is on the coach. He recruited him.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                              If true, I don't think most fans will disgree with that, as long as it leads to progresive improvement.
                              What do you see improved over last year? And what improvements have there been from the start of the season to now?
                              Zero...with the exception of the freshmen. The sophomores have not improved. That can reflect the coaching. We will know for sure next year at this time if we don't see improvement in the current freshmen. In my opinion there should have been some improvement in this year's sophomores. I haven't seen any other than maybe stronger.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Vent View Post
                                If it's a player the coach recruited it is on the coach. He recruited him.
                                I really don't understand the uproar here. This happens at colleges all over. Coaches recruit players all the time that don't ever end up playing or playing very little. If coaches think a player will help them win games they will play..

                                Do you guys think Suggs would have meant more wins for this team? When teams are losing, many think the kids not playing would be better. Obviously Wardle doesn't think so. If Suggs played and we still lose by 20 or even 15 would everyone be happy? The coaches are with them alot more than we are. If Wardle doesn't do well in 4-5 years then we will be looking for a new coach probably....but it won't be because he didn't play Ronnie Suggs

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