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  • #46
    Why do we have to listen to Dave and Chad make excuses for this team.I understand Dave is an employee but listening to him and Chad "drinking the koolaid" is getting old.

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    • #47
      On the post-game show, Coach admits we made too many turnovers, and Indiana State "shot the lights out".

      For the record: Indiana State was 23-52 (43.4%) Bradley was 21-52 (39.6%)
      3-point shooting: Indiana State 14-32 (43.8%) Bradley was 9-18 (50%)
      Free throws: Indiana State 21-27 (77.8%) Bradley 20-24 (83.3%)

      So shooting stats do not appear to be the reason Bradley trailed by 10-20 points the entire game.

      Turnovers
      Indiana State 17 Bradley 23

      Rebounds
      Indiana State 34 Bradley 36

      It appeared that Bradley's brief full court pressure midway in the 2nd half made a big difference and lead to the gap closing to 8 points with 7 minutes left. But then we stopped pressing, and the lead blossomed back to nearly 20 points and the game was over.
      Playing only 6 players in the 2nd half appeared to lead to the players getting tired.

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      • #48
        How about recruiting decent talent,tired of the excuses Chad.What will be the excuse next year!

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        • #49
          Box score-


          Indiana State's leading scorer, and their only one averaging more than 9 ppg was scoreless.

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          • #50
            turnovers and the failure to defend the 3-pt shot in the first half (they shot 11-20)....
            from there it becomes impossible for such a young team to pull out of a 20-pt hole, especially as turnover prone as we are..
            Realistically our shot at staying above .500 in MVC play is maybe now out of reach - and now we try to stay out of 7-10th place
            Last edited by tornado; 01-14-2017, 06:09 PM.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
              Mostly the same mistakes we keep seeing over and over. Seems like the plot of Groundhog Day, only we don't learn from our mistakes like Bill Murray did.
              Until the sophomore class graduates, we will continue to see the same mistakes. That is why this season, next season and maybe even the season after that, we will be on a roller coaster ride. It's part of the rebuilding process. The mistakes being made, are not coaching mistakes, they are basic fundamental and instinct mistakes. It is difficult, if not impossible to coach instincts. It is equally difficult to break bad habits and poor fundamentals, especially at this level.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                On the post-game show, Coach admits we made too many turnovers, and Indiana State "shot the lights out".

                For the record: Indiana State was 23-52 (43.4%) Bradley was 21-52 (39.6%)
                3-point shooting: Indiana State 14-32 (43.8%) Bradley was 9-18 (50%)
                Free throws: Indiana State 21-27 (77.8%) Bradley 20-24 (83.3%)

                So shooting stats do not appear to be the reason Bradley trailed by 10-20 points the entire game.

                Turnovers
                Indiana State 17 Bradley 23

                Rebounds
                Indiana State 34 Bradley 36

                It appeared that Bradley's brief full court pressure midway in the 2nd half made a big difference and lead to the gap closing to 8 points with 7 minutes left. But then we stopped pressing, and the lead blossomed back to nearly 20 points and the game was over.
                Playing only 6 players in the 2nd half appeared to lead to the players getting tired.
                I think the stats pretty much tell the story, especially in shooting. They shoot almost twice as many 3's as we do, make 5 more 3's than we do (15 pts) and win by 10. Everything else except the 6 more turnovers for us, are pretty much equal.

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                • #53
                  Wow...Pitt and DLO with 10 turnovers....

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by carter View Post
                    How about recruiting decent talent,tired of the excuses Chad.What will be the excuse next year!
                    Bradley always recruited decent talent until they started firing successful coaches. Hard to recruit great talent when you are put in the situation Coach Wardle was. Give him time to almost completely rebuild.
                    What part of illegal don't you understand?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by lefty View Post
                      Wow...Pitt and DLO with 10 turnovers....
                      And they only played 26 & 17 minutes.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                        And they only played 26 & 17 minutes.


                        Yeah.....I saw that....I wonder if some of these guys try so hard when they are in just to make a difference in hopes of getting more playing time...and it ends up doing the opposite....


                        I know coaches get blamed for playing guys that don't do much on the stat sheet but they keep the offense going without turnovers and be where they are suppose to be defensively which helps the team overall......obviously you have to score...but you lose chances with turnovers

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by lefty View Post
                          Wow...Pitt and DLO with 10 turnovers....
                          Not to pick on DLO, but last year he made a lot of turnovers because he was playing point guard and out of his normal position. This year he's making quite for turnovers because......

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                          • #58
                            We're going to continue on this roller coaster ride far at least another year and maybe another after that. Last year Wardle gave 8 scholarships, almost 75% of the ones allowed per team, to his freshman class. He didn't have much choice due to the number of players that left when he was hired. His only other option was to go with more walk-ons his first year, to save scholarships, knowing they were going to lose anyway. Almost half of the players he brought in on scholarship his first season have already left. He appears to have recruited a pretty good freshman class this year. Most of the mistakes being made this year are by the same players that made the same mistakes a year ago. Most of those mistakes are due to fundamentals and natural instincts. You don't coach natural instincts and poor fundamentals are difficult, if not impossible, to get rid of at this level. There is a reason we have three freshmen now logging significant playing time over second year players.

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                            • #59
                              This team should be beyond this by now. I'm so frustrated in our inability to have consistent play from one game to the next. But the only thing we seem to be consistent with are turnovers and leaving three point shooters wide open. And I'm going to keep saying this. Don't know why Suggs and Foster don't play. Unless Wardle already knows that they are leaving there's just no reason to not play them. Foster at least has a presence down low and Suggs showed some ability last year. Why not give them a shot. Need to play a lot better if we expect to beat Illinois State.

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                              • #60
                                Even if Suggs and Foster are not returning next year I don't understand why they don't get an opportunity to contribute. It is frustrating seeing them sitting on the bench when five of the ten guys that did play scored a total of 9 points and had 10 turn overs.

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