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Final: Bradley 60 SIU 51

lefty said:
I'm not denying the importance of 3 point shooting
I'm just saying if SIU shot 36% it would be the equivalent of barely 1 more 3 per game. I have not looked at their schedule but I doubt if it changes their record much
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lefty, even this math is not right.

SIU is now 77 of 256 on threes. If they made "1 more 3 per game" (they've played 14 games), they would make them 91 of 270. That is only 33.7%, which would barely be enough to lift them out of 10th place and into 9th place by a tiny 0.1% over Indiana State.

Even if you meant "if one of their missed 3-pointer each game was a made 3-pointer instead", that would make them 91 of 256, which is still not quite 36% (it's 35.5%), and that would still only raise them to 9th place in the MVC, barely ahead of Indiana State, who would be 10th.

Either way, they would still be no better than 9th place among MVC schools, and that's bad.

They would have to make their next 24 three pointers in a row without a miss, just to raise their percentage to 36%, and that would still leave them only in 7th place in the MVC, barely ahead of Drake and Bradley. And that is not going to happen. SIU is now 3.5% behind the next worst 3-point shooting team (Indiana State), which is a huge margin with almost half their schedule behind them. They would have to become one of the top 3-point shooting teams in the last half to reverse their current trend and get out of the bottom of the MVC in that category.
 
I just took 36% of their 256 which is 92 so 15 more 3's in 14 games

It's not that big of deal guys. Sorry to bother you all
 
Fwiw siu is scoring 71.2 ppg
They allow about 71.6 ppg

So being marginally better on offense on the year might matter. They haven't lost any games by 3 or less but you can't just magically add 3 to every game, since every play impacts every other play. In terms of statistics you have to think about it in terms of averages while thinking mathematically.
 
ihatetea said:
Fwiw siu is scoring 71.2 ppg
They allow about 71.6 ppg

So being marginally better on offense on the year might matter. They haven't lost any games by 3 or less but you can't just magically add 3 to every game, since every play impacts every other play. In terms of statistics you have to think about it in terms of averages while thinking mathematically.
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Northern Iowa has the worst record I think I'm the MVC and 4th in 3 point shooting

Look at SIU schedule. They either shot good or real bad from 3. I would have to look again but I think there were 3 losses where they had a good percentage
 
I'd like to see more of him on the court. We could use his shooting.

I wonder if those who said he was not a D1 player still believe that?
 
Da Coach said:
I'd like to see more of him on the court. We could use his shooting.

I wonder if those who said he was not a D1 player still believe that?
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I would think his minutes will go up. Other than handling a press he seems to make the team better when he's on the floor
 
A lot of coaches think shooting 33-35% on threes is like shooting 50% on twos. The fact of the matter is, unless you have good outside shooting, you're not going to be a very good team. The game has become much more perimeter oriented since the 3 pt. shot. Case in point...you seldom see 3 seconds in the lane violations. That's not because the officials don't call it. It's because nobody plays much of a post game anymore. Good outside shooters enable you to run your half court offense without dribbling as much. Thus reducing turnovers by simply rotating the ball by good quick passes. Good outside shooting doesn't mean just shooting well on threes. It means being able to shoot well from 10-15 feet as well. Most often on threes you don't have a hand in your face. You generally catch and shoot. Shots within the three point line generally have a hand in your face. As I've said a million times, if you can't shoot free throws, you can't shoot with a hand in your face.
 
Reminds me of baseball. If you go 3 for 10 at bats you are a .300 hitter. But 2 for 10 you are only a .200 hitter.
 
Chico said:
Reminds me of baseball. If you go 3 for 10 at bats you are a .300 hitter. But 2 for 10 you are only a .200 hitter.
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...not sure what you are saying. It's more like saying is it better to go 4 for 10 with 4 singles or go 1 for 10 with a homer? If those are your two plans of attack, in which one will you luck into good outcomes in addition to your stated goal? It's not an exact parallel but it's about as good as you will get comparing across sports.
 
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