2017 Valley recruits

[tornado]

was watching the Comcast replay of the UNI-Bradley game...
funny how the broadcasters seem to talk endlessly about UNI and barely notice who it is they are playing...
but one comment just made was that UNI should be much better next year because they have HELP on the way...
and they went on to tell about how Doug McDermott's cousin, Adam McDermott has transferred to UNI and he will help them a lot...

well, I guess that's possible....but come on....Adam McDermott is not Doug McDermott...
he's a walk-on sophomore transfer from Univ. of North Dakota who averaged 6.7 ppg there.



2017
Bradley - Ryan Stipanovich - LINK, Elijah Childs (0 open scholarships appear to be 2-over)
Drake - Teyvion Kirk (signed), Tai Bibbs (signed) (0 scholarship currently open)
Evansville - Evan Kuhlman (signed), Noah Frederking (signed) (3, maybe 4 scholarships currently open) (Silas Adheke removed as he classified as a 2016)
Illinois State - William Tinsley, Elijah Clarance (signed), Christian Romine & Milik Yarbrough, transfers eligible in 2017 (1 scholarship currently open with departure of Deontae Hawkins)
Indiana State - Devin Thomas (signed), Tyreke Key (signed), Elafayette Stone (signed), Daniel Huenermann (signed) (0 scholarships currently open)
Loyola - Cameron Krutwig (signed), Christian Negron (signed) (0 scholarships currently open, may be one-over)
Missouri State - Reggie Scurry (signed), Darian Scott (signed), Mustafa Lawrence, (signed) (0 scholarships currently open)
UNI - Austin Phyfe (signed), Adam McDermott - walk-on transfer from North Dakota sitting out 2016-17 (1 scholarships left for 2017)
SIU - Demarius Jacobs (signed), Jeremy Roscoe - (will not sign a LOI since he signed one in 2016), Marcus Bartley - transfer eligible in 2017 (2 scholarships currently open)
Wichita State - Samajae Haynes-Jones - signed, Asbjorn Midtgaard (signed) (zero scholarships currently open - possibly one-over- depends on who is walking on)

[Stickboy46]

was watching the Comcast replay of the UNI-Bradley game...
funny how the broadcasters seem to talk endlessly about UNI and barely notice who it is they are playing...
but one comment just made was that UNI should be much better next year because they have HELP on the way...
and they went on to tell about how Doug McDermott's cousin, Adam McDermott has transferred to UNI and he will help them a lot...

well, I guess that's possible....but come on....Adam McDermott is not Doug McDermott...
he's a walk-on sophomore transfer from Univ. of North Dakota who averaged 6.7 ppg there.



2017
Bradley - Ryan Stipanovich - LINK, Elijah Childs (0 open scholarships appear to be 2-over)
Drake - Teyvion Kirk (signed), Tai Bibbs (signed) (0 scholarship currently open)
Evansville - Evan Kuhlman (signed), Noah Frederking (signed) (3, maybe 4 scholarships currently open) (Silas Adheke removed as he classified as a 2016)
Illinois State - William Tinsley, Elijah Clarance (signed), Christian Romine & Milik Yarbrough, transfers eligible in 2017 (1 scholarship currently open with departure of Deontae Hawkins)
Indiana State - Devin Thomas (signed), Tyreke Key (signed), Elafayette Stone (signed), Daniel Huenermann (signed) (0 scholarships currently open)
Loyola - Cameron Krutwig (signed), Christian Negron (signed) (0 scholarships currently open, may be one-over)
Missouri State - Reggie Scurry (signed), Darian Scott (signed), Mustafa Lawrence, (signed) (0 scholarships currently open)
UNI - Austin Phyfe (signed), Adam McDermott - walk-on transfer from North Dakota sitting out 2016-17 (1 scholarships left for 2017)
SIU - Demarius Jacobs (signed), Jeremy Roscoe - (will not sign a LOI since he signed one in 2016), Marcus Bartley - transfer eligible in 2017 (2 scholarships currently open)
Wichita State - Samajae Haynes-Jones - signed, Asbjorn Midtgaard (signed) (zero scholarships currently open - possibly one-over- depends on who is walking on)

UNI could possibly be worse next year. They lose their only player that appears to be an MVC or above caliber player in Morgan. I refuse to believe any hype coming from UNI after there was talk about McCloud being a possible Freshman of the Year and even Player of the year candidate. There isn't a single player on that team besides Morgan that makes me worry.

[Da Coach]

UNI could possibly be worse next year. They lose their only player that appears to be an MVC or above caliber player in Morgan. I refuse to believe any hype coming from UNI after there was talk about McCloud being a possible Freshman of the Year and even Player of the year candidate. There isn't a single player on that team besides Morgan that makes me worry.

I was thinking the same thing. I posted my thoughts on all their new players here-

https://www.bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=825126820#post825126820

[tornado]

kinda hard to believe tho, but just a little earlier this season they beat both Arizona State and Oklahoma with the exact same players plus Jeremy Morgan

[ihatetea]

Don't short change klint Carlson. He is their best offensive player over morgan imo and is a legitimate poy candidate next year. They need help at the guard spots and if bennet Koch could channel his brothers a little bit they would have a fighting chance. But they appear to be a ways away from what they had been the last half decade or so.

[tornado]

2017
Bradley - Ryan Stipanovich - LINK, Elijah Childs (0 open scholarships appear to be 2-over)
Drake - Teyvion Kirk (signed), Tai Bibbs (signed) (0 scholarship currently open)
Evansville - Evan Kuhlman (signed), Noah Frederking (signed) (3, maybe 4 scholarships currently open) (Silas Adheke removed as he classified as a 2016)
Illinois State - William Tinsley, Elijah Clarance (signed), Christian Romine & Milik Yarbrough, transfers eligible in 2017 (1 scholarship currently open with departure of Deontae Hawkins)
Indiana State - Devin Thomas (signed), Tyreke Key (signed), Elafayette Stone (signed), Daniel Huenermann (signed) (0 scholarships currently open)
Loyola - Cameron Krutwig (signed), Christian Negron (signed) (0 scholarships currently open, may be one-over)
Missouri State - Reggie Scurry (signed), Darian Scott (signed), Mustafa Lawrence, (signed) (0 scholarships currently open)
UNI - Austin Phyfe (signed), Adam McDermott - walk-on transfer from North Dakota sitting out 2016-17 (1 scholarships left for 2017)
SIU - Demarius Jacobs (signed), Jeremy Roscoe - (will not sign a LOI since he signed one in 2016), Marcus Bartley - transfer eligible in 2017 (2 scholarships currently open)
Wichita State - Samajae Haynes-Jones - signed, Asbjorn Midtgaard (signed) (zero scholarships currently open - possibly one-over- depends on who is walking on)

if anyone saw....
Evansville signee Noah Frederking just led his Class 1A Okawville team all the way to the IHSA Class 1A Championship game then they took home the Runnerup Trophy.

Frederking is a talented 6-3 or 6-4 kid, strong, not slender at all and had Marty-Simmons-like skills....
In fact for anyone who is old enough it's kind of uncanny how much the kid makes you think of Marty when Marty was playing for Lawrenceville.

The differences, Noah is an inch or two shorter and he never really displayed the deadeye long distance touch...
I can assure you that he won't get 80% of the points he got today once he arrives in the MVC as he does not get too far off the floor and a large percentage of his points come from using his bulk to maneuver & bull his way against small, skinny 1A opponents and get into the lane and put up short shots and layups.
Any team with a shot blocker would negate 75-80% of those shots.

The IHSA website says he takes only about 32% of his shots from beyond the 3-pt arc (171 of 527) and makes 38.6% (66-171)
Time will tell if he adjusts to DI but it's a pretty big step up from 1A ball.

[Da Coach]

I watched Okawville's games yesterday and today, and Noah Frederking is a nice Class 1A player and he kept his team in the game, though they lost.
And I am reluctant to say anything negative, but I am not sure what Marty Simmons saw that lead him to offer a scholarship at Evansville.
The kid would probably have trouble finding playing time on the top Class 3A or 4A teams in the state. He is not a point guard at all, and rarely handles the ball. He plays more of a power forward position for his team, which won't work in D1 (he is maybe 6'4" at most). And, there isn't any way he wiil be able to defend D1 shooting guards or forwards. I saw Marty Simmons in high school and college, and he was way more dominant and a scoring machine. There is no comparison.
I'd be surprised if Frederking doesn't redshirt next season, and he'll probably eventually play below D1 level.


By the way- here is some trivia- in looking up Marty Simmon's scoring average his senior year at Lawrenceville (31.9 ppg).
I was reminded that 3 of the top 10 high school single-season scorers in IHSA history played for Bradley.

Does anyone know what players had the top 2 all-time single-season scoring averages? They both played their entire college careers at Bradley.

And as noted, 3 of the top 10 highest single-season scoring averages were by players who played for Bradley.
The first 2 are easy. Anyone know who the 3rd one was?
Hint: he was not much of a scorer for Bradley. He scored only a total of 106 points in 2 seasons as a Brave.

Answers are right below in white text so they are not visible, but use cursor to highlight--->


Highest Scoring Average, Season
[1.] 47.6, Voise Winters, Chicago (Gage Park), 1981 (1048 points, 22 games)
[2.] 43.5, Mitch Anderson, Chicago (Metro), 1977-78 (958 points, 22 games)
[3.] 37.55, Ron Zagar, DePue, 1956-1957, (27 games 1014 points)
[4.] 36.4, Pierre Pierce, Westmont, 2000-2001 (1,164 points, 32 games)
[5.] 35.7, Jim Kinney, Magnolia (Swaney), 1957
[6.] 34.9, Dennis Shidler, Lawrenceville, 1969-70 (978 points, 28 games)
[7.] 33.8, Luke Williams, Hume (Shiloh), 1997 (913 pts, 27 games)
[8.] 33.6, Greg Starrick, Marion (H.S.), 1966-67
[9.] 33.2, Melvin Harden, Aurora (East), 1979-80 (931 points, 28 games)
[10.] 32.6, Jay Shidler, Lawrenceville, 1976 (1013 points, 31 games)
[11.] 32.3, Dennis Radabaugh, Savanna, 1960-61 (872 pts., 27 ga.)
[12.] 32.2, Mike Duff, Eldorado, 1977 (1097 points, 34 games)
[13.] 31.9, Marty Simmons, Lawrenceville, 1983 (1087 points, 34 games)
[14.] 31.8, Dan Imming, Aviston, 1968-69 (797 pts., 25 games)
[15.] 31.2, Dennis Luber, Highland (St. Paul), 1978 (811 points, 26 games)
[16.] 31.0, John Martin, Pawnee, 1974-75
[17.] 30.9, Greg Cruse, Goreville, 1970-74 (712 points in 23 games)
[18.] 30.8, Will Watson, Tremont, 1963-64 (27 games, 831 points)
[18.] 30.8, John Garrett, Patoka, 1967-68 (769 pts., 25 games)
[20.] 30.3, Kevin Kreiter, Brimfield, 1981-82 (820 points, 27 games)

[tornado]

Indiana State now has an open scholarship as one of their players leaves

http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=26881

[tornado]

Updated as Bradley opened up some scholarships then filled the final one with Lundy..who appears to be the first spring commit among Valley schools.
Indiana State & Drake also opened up one more

Should be more verbals coming as several Valley schools have scholarships to fill



2017
Bradley - Ryan Stipanovich - LINK, Elijah Childs, Luqman Lundy (0 open scholarships)
Drake - Teyvion Kirk - now reopened, Tai Bibbs - now reopened (3 scholarships currently open as Bibbs, Kirk, and Billy Wampler are all gone)
Evansville - Evan Kuhlman (signed), Noah Frederking (signed) (3, maybe 4 scholarships currently open) (Silas Adheke removed as he classified as a 2016)
Illinois State - William Tinsley, Elijah Clarance (signed), Christian Romine & Milik Yarbrough, transfers eligible in 2017 (1 scholarship currently open with departure of Deontae Hawkins)
Indiana State - Devin Thomas (signed), Tyreke Key (signed), Elafayette Stone (now reneged and signs with juco - see below) (signed), Daniel Huenermann (signed) (2 scholarships currently open as Donovan Franklin is gone & Elafayette Stone gone)
Loyola - Cameron Krutwig (signed), Christian Negron (signed) (1 scholarship currently open, Maurice Kirby gone)
Missouri State - Reggie Scurry (signed), Darian Scott (signed), Mustafa Lawrence, (signed) (0 scholarships currently open)
UNI - Austin Phyfe (signed), Adam McDermott - walk-on transfer from North Dakota sitting out 2016-17 (1 scholarships left for 2017)
SIU - Demarius Jacobs (signed), Jeremy Roscoe - (will not sign a LOI since he signed one in 2016), Marcus Bartley - transfer eligible in 2017 (2 scholarships currently open)
Wichita State - Samajae Haynes-Jones - signed, Asbjorn Midtgaard (signed) (zero scholarships currently open - possibly one-over- depends on who is walking on)

[tornado]

Uh oh....bad news for INDIANA STATE...
...LIKELY Greg Lansing already knew this....
one of their commits who was expected to sign their Letter of Intent in April,
has instead signed with the exact same juco that Luqman Lundy is attending...

Elafayette Stone signs with Northern Oklahoma College - Tonkawa

https://twitter.com/CoachDJackson/status/846739232819478528

[tornado]

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2017...
SIU - Demarius Jacobs (signed), Jeremy Roscoe - (will not sign a LOI since he signed one in 2016), Marcus Bartley - transfer eligible in 2017 (2 scholarships currently open)...

SIU's situation changes a little...
-They have 4 seniors but one is returning now as Tyler Smithpeters just gained NCAA approval for 5th year (redshirt)

-but then the only recruit they had coming in for 2017 has now reneged, and Demarius Jacobs is not going to honor his signed Letter of Intent!
No word yet if SIU will have to decide whether to give him a full release...but they don't have to and that would make it impossible for Demarius Jacobs to play at any other NCAA school under scholarship.
BUT - unconfirmed word is that he wasn't going to make grades anyway, so he will land at prep school and hopefully become a 2018 recruit.

- so that means where every other MVC school has one or more players known to be coming in this fall....SIU joins Drake as the two MVC schools that still don't have anybody and pickings are getting pretty slim!

[tornado]

Been reading the other MVC message boards...

something's different than it used to be...
fans used to hope their coach did a great job of scouting & following players, then recruiting and landing them & developing them ...and meshing their talents with the the rest of the team for a winning season!

But that's not what a lot of fans hope for or want now...

Now they just seem to want to HIT THE LOTTERY by landing a top grad transfer who is eligible immediately and who will carry them to the post-season..
Wichita fans even hoping they land an impact grad-transfer as a walk-on....yeah, right...

[tornado]

SIU's situation changes a little...
-They have 4 seniors but one is returning now as Tyler Smithpeters just gained NCAA approval for 5th year (redshirt)

-but then the only recruit they had coming in for 2017 has now reneged, and Demarius Jacobs is not going to honor his signed Letter of Intent!
No word yet if SIU will have to decide whether to give him a full release...but they don't have to and that would make it impossible for Demarius Jacobs to play at any other NCAA school under scholarship.
BUT - unconfirmed word is that he wasn't going to make grades anyway, so he will land at prep school and hopefully become a 2018 recruit.

- so that means where every other MVC school has one or more players known to be coming in this fall....SIU joins Drake as the two MVC schools that still don't have anybody and pickings are getting pretty slim!

Demarius Jacobs and his younger brother - Kansas commit Markese Jacobs -
both transfer to Hillcrest Prep School in Phoenix, AZ

Demarius will be a post-grad Class of 2018, Markese will be a junior next year - Class of 2019

[tornado]

Finally some verbal action in the MVC

SIU lands the 2nd spring commit (Luqman Lundy was 1st)

They get a verbal from Eric McGill from Panola juco
He is a 6-2 combo guard who was "previously dismissed from SEMO"

He averaged 2.4 ppg in his freshman season at SEMO then as a sophomore this past season at Panola he averaged 11.6 ppg, 3.4 rpg, and 5.6 apg, while shooting 39.5% from 3-pt

[Da Coach]

Finally some verbal action in the MVC

SIU lands the 2nd spring commit (Luqman Lundy was 1st)

They get a verbal from Eric McGill from Panola juco
He is a 6-2 combo guard who was "previously dismissed from SEMO"

He averaged 2.4 ppg in his freshman season at SEMO then as a sophomore this past season at Panola he averaged 11.6 ppg, 3.4 rpg, and 5.6 apg, while shooting 39.5% from 3-pt

SIU is in need of ball-handling guards for next season with the loss of Mike Rodriguez & Leo Vincent.

McGill is originally from Memphis. I wonder if Darrell Brown knows him.

http://gosoutheast.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=7246