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  • #31
    Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
    And as light as the penalties are against Louisville, considering how egregious their violations were, the Louisville President has announced they will appeal them-


    Why not? The NCAA has already set precedents that they often back down on penalties against the big schools when they appeal.
    From the information released this morning by the NCAA, here is what Louisville's argument was to the NCAA to refute the seriousness of their volations-




    So Louisville argued that each individual striptease and sex act didn't cost very much, so they wanted the NCAA to downgrade the overall violations to a lower level.

    That is like someone who robs a bank for $25,000 appealing for a light sentence because each bill they stole was only worth $10 or $20.

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    • #32
      There was a nice article in the Peoria Journal Star from a writer in Pittsburg blasting Lousiville and the NCAA. He stated the Louisville Cardinals created scandalous situation and the NCAA is just as scandalous for not cracking down on them. Good!!! Finally maybe people are starting to stand up and say enough is enough

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      • #33
        but the huge $$ the big schools generate for the media will go a long way towards helping to bury & ignore all this...
        the only headline will be that the NCAA added more sanctions to Alabama State or SEMO

        BUT -- here's the area they were the MOST hypocritical...

        In most every case in the past where some coach was fully uncooperative - the SCHOOL was still held responsible and given even more severe penalties because of the failure to cooperate.
        (Remember Versace?)

        but now we have several of these cases where a defiant coach was 100% unwilling to cooperate at all (this case, Louisville assistant Andre McGee)
        - and then NCAA goes soft on the school and guys in charge since they claim Pitino really can't be held fully responsible since it was the other guy that failed to cooperate.
        They made the same argument at USC (with Reggie Bush) and at Auburn (with Cam Newton) and they let horrific abuses and impermissible benefits slide by the head coach did not know so he can't be held responsible!

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        • #34
          Yeah, I remember Versace. Think he was fired after a 32-3 season. I also know his so called violations were minor.
          What part of illegal don't you understand?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Chico View Post
            Yeah, I remember Versace. Think he was fired after a 32-3 season. I also know his so called violations were minor.
            he refused to give the NCAA agents the answers they demanded, so they charged him with failure to cooperate and decided to come down hard...

            Maybe if DV had hired a boatload of hookers, or gave impermissible gifts worth $100K, or got their players eligible with completely phony, non-existent courses or paid $200K for some recruits (like Louisville, USC, UNC, Georgia & Auburn did)
            then just maybe NCAA would have come down easy.......yeah - right....

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            • #36
              Originally posted by tornado View Post
              he refused to give the NCAA agents the answers they demanded, so they charged him with failure to cooperate and decided to come down hard...

              Maybe if DV had hired a boatload of hookers, or gave impermissible gifts worth $100K, or got their players eligible with completely phony, non-existent courses or paid $200K for some recruits (like Louisville, USC, UNC, Georgia & Auburn did)
              then just maybe NCAA would have come down easy.......yeah - right....
              Don't know what those other guys did, nor do I care. All I know DV should not have been fired after a 32-3 season. I have to thank the players who stuck with the program after that fiasco and helped the Braves go back to the Big Dance 2 years later.
              What part of illegal don't you understand?

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              • #37
                Has any university had such a weird array of serious scandals....
                now this...

                the guy in charge of their Foundation gets caught stealing tens of thousands of dollars $$ in golf clubs and golf equipment from their own Golf course!!

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                • #38
                  new revelations...
                  phone records obtained by Freedom of Information request
                  make it pretty darned hard to believe that the Louisville assistant coach, Andre McGee, who arranged
                  all the hookers to have sex with players & recruits - was acting alone and nobody else knew....
                  McGee called the other members of his coaching staff SO MUCH in that time interval,
                  that it is pretty hard to believe that nobody else on their coaching staff knew a thing about it as they claim...
                  DOZENS of calls per day were made to other coaching staff members....while he was arranging these prostitute hookups for the recruits...

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                  • #39
                    The NCAA vacated Louisville's wins for the 2012 & 2013 season including their 2013 National Championship as a result of their investigation into Louisville's improper benefits scandal that included cash to players and wild parties with hookers assigned to entertain players and recruits.

                    Last month, a group of Louisville fans sued the NCAA demanding the reinstatement 123 vacated wins, including the National Championship.-


                    And now several players from that 2013 Louisville team are suing the NCAA, too, demanding the wins be reinstated and the National Championship restored to Louisville.


                    I have to think the University of Louisville would much rather this whole thing just go away, and these players and fans not drag it out for years with lawsuits. It would get really interesting and fun if it went all the way to a trial, and we got to see all the evidence the NCAA has and of the hookers and informants testifying to the lurid details of all the cheating that went on. Unfortunately, it is likely that one or both lawsuits will get thrown out (or settled) long before reaching trial stage.

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