Coaching candidates

[Da Coach]

DePaul is interviewing candidates this weekend, starting with their top target, Bobby Hurley. Their next choice seems to be Bryce Drew of Valpo. But Brian Wardle may be waiting to see if the job cold be offered to him next.




Interestingly, Northern Kentucky is also targeting Brian Wardle. On the surface, that would not seem like an upward move for him, but apparently they have a lot of money to spend.

http://hoopdirt.com/blog/24e8866b/northern-kentucky-dirt/

And another unlikely name that has gotten some mention for the Bradley job- Grey Giovanine of Augustana. I am not too sure how serious of a candidate he is, but IMO it shows that Bradley is still considering a number of people.

[Tommy]

Just taking a quick look at Grey Giovanine, I would have a hard time being excited about him as our new HC. In fairness, it was just a quick look.

http://www.athletics.augustana.edu/c...h=mbball&rc=57

[afan]

coach

He sure as heck has a considerably better resume than Jerrance Howard. I just don't get the love affair with Jerrance Howard!!! JH virtually has no resume!

[Tommy]

He sure as heck has a considerably better resume than Jerrance Howard. I just don't get the love affair with Jerrance Howard!!! JH virtually has no resume!

He's an assistant coach at one of the top recruiting schools in the nation. He played at Illinois and is from the Peoria area. Yes, those aren't things that necessarily lead to being a good coach, but they are attributes that are attractive to a lot of BU fans, myself included.

He also showed some recruiting prowess while an assistant at Illinois under Bruce Weber.

Personally, my feeling is if we're going to be hiring a coach from a lesser conference or league, we need to get a coach that has just outright dominated it for 3-4 years. For instance, before Marshall was hired at WSU, he had 23+ wins over the previous 3 years coaching, and had gone to the NCAA in all 3 years. That's what we should be looking for, especially if we're planning on paying the candidate the way we paid Geno!

[basketball nut]

He sure as heck has a considerably better resume than Jerrance Howard. I just don't get the love affair with Jerrance Howard!!! JH virtually has no resume!

Even though I really think that the chances of JH are less then 10% at this time the love affair is the fact that he is considered to be one of the top 10 ass't coaches in the country-a top 5 among recruiters. Along w/ that is the fact that he was a Peoria kid just like CR and that is why so many people were excited about him.

[Vent]

Unless Chris Reynolds can pull a rabbit out of his hat, it is going to be very difficult to get a coach of the quality that we all want. The fact is, Bradley is not the program it once was and thus, does not generate the sustained coaching interest it once did.

We will have multiple applicants. The problem is, they will also be applying for better jobs. They will use Bradley to fall back on, if the other jobs they've applied for get filled by other candidates.

[Local Brave Fan]

Local Brave Fan

The ability to recruit for Kansas is not that big of a deal, I could recruit for Kansas and I have zero experience. We need a proven head coach. It is not hard to recruit for Kansas, Duke, NC or Kentucky.

[tornado]

That's funny because 4 years ago seems everyone was saying it is a top job - some said Top 50, better than some of the BCS jobs, good enough that we got almost 100 people pursuing it in 2011...some even said that hiring the right guy could turn Bradley into Gonzaga or Butler...
What has made it change so drastically the past four years so that now it's an undesirable position?

[AFrey]

Just taking a quick look at Grey Giovanine, I would have a hard time being excited about him as our new HC. In fairness, it was just a quick look.

http://www.athletics.augustana.edu/c...h=mbball&rc=57

His team just finished second in D3. Oh, and it beat Bradley this season (in an exhibition, yes).

I'm sure a lot of people would feel the same way you described if he got hired. Hiring a D3 coach, no matter how successful they've been, doesn't come off as sexy as bringing in a young assistant or D1 coach. I just want someone who can build a strong program and develop talent. Giovanine has proven he can do that.

[Da Coach]

I think every Bradley fan wants that. The question is whether Giovanine could accomplish that at the D1 level. He's done great at Augustana, but the number of Division III coaches who were able to move to D1 and have success is very small. Can anyone think of one?

[CubbieBear]

Unless Chris Reynolds can pull a rabbit out of his hat, it is going to be very difficult to get a coach of the quality that we all want. The fact is, Bradley is not the program it once was and thus, does not generate the sustained coaching interest it once did.

We will have multiple applicants. The problem is, they will also be applying for better jobs. They will use Bradley to fall back on, if the other jobs they've applied for get filled by other candidates.

I think you are spot on Vent--but--I also have some faith/hope that C.Reynolds (having a much stronger basketball background that Cross) will be able to land a person (albeit either a fall back landing OR a hungry young up and comer) that can work with him to eventually pull our program out of the crapper

[AFrey]

I think every Bradley fan wants that. The question is whether Giovanine could accomplish that at the D1 level. He's done great at Augustana, but the number of Division III coaches who were able to move to D1 and have success is very small. Can anyone think of one?

Bo Ryan immediately comes to mind. But why do I feel like you were waiting for someone to answer with that?

You're correct, there haven't been many D3 coaches (to my knowledge, at least) who move up to D1 and succeed. But that's probably also a pretty small sample to choose from. There also are numerous examples of head coaches or D1 assistants who move to other D1 schools and don't succeed (I don't think we have to try too hard to come up with one of those).

Giovanine, FWIW, has been a D1 head coach before. Don't want anyone to take this as him being "my guy." I just wouldn't dismiss it right away if he were hired.

[tornado]

Guys who start at DII & DIII as head or assistant coaches sometimes step up as assistants to the next level then move up to head coaching in DI - Bo Ryan is not alone - Geno Ford is one (Muskingum is DIII & Shawnee State is NAIA-Division II), others include Gregg Marshall, Dana Altman, Greg McDermott, Ray Giacoletti, Paul Lusk, Chris Lowery, Ben Jacobson, Greg Lansing, Mary Simmons, Bruce Pearl, Keno Davis, Rob Jeter, Tim Jankovich, Matt Painter, John Groce, Tom Izzo, John Beilein, and a few others..

[AFrey]

Guys who start at DII & DIII as head or assistant coaches sometimes step up as assistants to the next level then move up to head coaching in DI - Bo Ryan is not alone - Geno Ford is one (Muskingum is DIII & Shawnee State is NAIA-Division II), others include Gregg Marshall, Dana Altman, Greg McDermott, Ray Giacoletti, Paul Lusk, Chris Lowery, Ben Jacobson, Greg Lansing, Mary Simmons, Bruce Pearl, Keno Davis, Rob Jeter, Tim Jankovich, Matt Painter, John Groce, Tom Izzo, John Beilein, and a few others..

Of course there are several who start or pass through D3 before moving up. I was interpreting DC's question to mean head coaches who go straight from D3 to D1.

[tornado]

Of course there are several who start or pass through D3 before moving up. I was interpreting DC's question to mean head coaches who go straight from D3 to D1.

I know - that specific step up is unusual....as almost every schools would want someone with DI experience...